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I am SICK of you Whiners!

I want to ask ALL of you SOMETHING.

Were YOU a Ron Paul delegate at the National Convention?!!?!?!


Then you CANNOT complain about anything EVER!

You will say that it's sooooo hard to do something like that. All with the internet and airplanes and having to perhaps pay $1000 to get there.

Well let me ask you something?!?!? What would the founders who spend days on wagons to get to meetings say about that?!?!!

The WAY to SAVE the country is to be a DELEGATE. Do you get that?!?!?!??!!?


You cannot just type all sorts of stuff on dailypaul and expect things to change.


Who will you be a delgate for in 2016??!?!?!?!?!

If you are not going to be a DELGATE stop complaining!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm sick of me too!

the founders gave us a system that turned into this fascist

Pile we live in now. Granted they came closer then anyone else to founding a free society, and should be respected for that, but at the end of the day they were still statists.

The real American experiment has yet to happen.

I entirely support the tone of your post, conalmc.

The Founders did indeed create one of the most successful experiments in freedom supporting, constitutional government. It worked pretty well for almost 250 years. But it wasn't quite airtight enough to keep out the vermin that inevitability crept in. Not bad for version 1.0.

This time around, we have the internet to inform and educate at light speed. We have a large portion of the people fully informed, awakened and pissed off again. We have a fascist government that can't even tie the shoelaces on its brand new 600 million dollar sneakers.

I wonder what Freedom America 2.0 will look like?

But the OP is entirely correct. We won't get there just by posting from the comfort of our easy chairs. Enough of us must actually DO SOMETHING. I create useful websites, like the Ron Paul Wiki Project. My wife is a precinct committeewoman. We both show up personally to help elect our best candidates when the call goes out. I videotaped every speaker and performer at the libertarian Ron Paul Festival in Tampa for the much larger YouTube audience. Ron Paul's brother gave a great speech there on constitutional money that many more people now get to hear. Everyone according to his or her talents is needed to help us rebuild America.

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“The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and will to carry on.”
-- Walter Lippmann


I like it. The best has yet to come. Enough of this looking back all the time at the good but far from perfect way we've been. True freedom is still coming.

what brand of coffee do you drink?

I want to get some.

"All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind." - Khalil Gibran
"The Perfect Man has no self; the Holy Man has no merit; the Sage has no fame." - Chuang Tzu

I'll whine if I want to

No, I wasn't a delegate, but I was there as a guest....

No, I wasn't a National Delegate (though I was an RP Delegate to the State Convention in 2008 & 2012), but I was there in Tampa as a guest to provide ground support to several RP delegates like these patriots:

Am I allowed to complain about anything ever? Technically I wasn't a national delegate, but could I maybe get a whiner's pass?

On a serious note regarding your comment, "The WAY to SAVE the country is to be a DELEGATE. Do you get that?!?!?!??!!?"

I can attest that this is completely B.S. I actually attribute my attendance to the RNC in Tampa in 2012 as the catalyst that helped me progress towards complete Voluntaryism, as the little faith I had in the system was completely smashed...blatantly, out in the open for everyone to see.

I feel I can do more to promote the cause of Liberty outside the system through entrepreneurship.

BUT, I never claim that my way is the only way to fix this mess. It's going to take actions from all different directions to beat this beast. We'll have to work inside and outside the system. Working inside the system like you suggest is not the only way.

Lastly, I actually believe typing stuff on the internet is the reason things will change as paradigms shift as people are awakened by information they found online and through alternative channels.

I'm a serial entrepreneur and liberty activist from Texas!


What the poster is stating doesn't

hold much water.

I have a friend that was a state delegate that went to the national convention. In there state convention there was a physical fight. State republican chairman had a bunch of off duty state police there for security. When one of the Ron Paulers got the floor and tried to speak the chairman ordered the state police to subdue him. They ended up breaking his fingers and dislocating the hip of an elderly man. Rick Santorim had actually carried the state by popular vote but the chairman and his goons nominated fuzzy nuts instead.
Friend went to Florida where they were barred from the convention.
If I remember right he met with Ron @ a location off site of the convention.
There is a video of the fight @ the state convention somewhere on internet land. Anyway poster, as he learned there is no hope for this country thru voting. Its all rigged.
I'm doin my part, tellin folks and Praying. Apparently your not doing your part.

Plantin the seeds for our Savior. In the End Jesus wins!

slow down


Self Righteousness Is No Virtue... Calm Down..(Read Below)

Why don't you just simmer down friend. You probably had a bad day. Tomorrow is another day. Sometimes the pressures of life moves us out of our center.

...DO ME A FAVOR... Close your eyes and look through the middle of your forehead or through your eyelids as if you were looking at a movie screen. Do you see little flashing lights, tiny little pixels? Can you feel your fingers tingling and your hands getting warm? You are now in prayer in the presence. There is no time, no thought, just you in the moment.

Practice this before you go to bed and when you awaken in the morning, and sometime during the middle of your day. Practice it several times a day at first to get use to it. It may cause one to fall asleep. It does that for awhile. Don't be afraid, the technique will not hurt you one bit. It is what the bible calls your 'armor and shield.'

According to its creator, this technique was probably lost/deleted from the bible by the same crowd who I believe want to keep you from the real teachings of true prayer or meditation. I sincerely believe this technique was taught by Christ to his apostles..It is the key to the secret of life. Not sure how or why it works, it just..

Just try it for yourself. Make no preconceived judgements about it. It works. You will see things in a different light. It may help you stop smoking and other bad habits we all have engaged in from time to time. It is my gift to you, my friend in liberty..

There are no mantras or vain affirmations involved.

I practice the stress relieving technique myself daily to keep me in the moment.

The U.S. Army has order hundreds of copies of these stress relievers because it has helped cured thousands of military men afflicted with PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)..

It is the size of a credit card and can fit inside your shirt pocket.. You can listen to it in the car, at home or at work.

It really works! I have been practicing this stress relieving technique for over 30 years. Give it a try. I promise, you won't be sorry.

Go to http://www.fhu.com

This feeling has been here for a long time and hopefully

it will last.

There's no doubt the delegate thing has born results. Getting into office at all levels is a great long and short term strategy.

The thing there is there will never be just one form of activism. Just as there will never stop being people that believe they have THE SOLUTION, THE ONE SOLUTION AND THE ONE AND ONLY SOLUTION.

Cause I heard that many times and the movement often outlasts the person shouting for everybody to get behind them.

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

I think you should drop

I think you should drop "national convention". There were many of us, myself included, who were delegates but were not selected for the national convention. I would have begged, borrowed and stolen to get there.

Oh yeah. BTW. Kiss my ass.

Oh yeah. BTW. Kiss my ass.

I certainly agree with the

I certainly agree with the awareness factor that the delegate process and presidential primaries bring but it cannot be the panacea for our problems.

A single man (The President) can't fix any thing. A single man can easily be manipulated or eliminated.

Was JFK even a libertarian - but he just made a single move against the MIC and the Fed and was eliminated.

I have heard a few of Reagan's speeches and he seemed like a decent man but I am not sure why there was an attempt to assassinate him (I do not believe the official stories). But then his administration ended up inflating the MIC and re-defined the war on drugs.

Ron Paul had the perfect strategy in spreading the message of liberty. He is the prophet and the message of liberty and truth is the messiah. Many DP-ers continue to spread this message and that ,IMO, is a decent enough contribution. Becoming a delegate is definitely better but is not possible for everybody due to varied reasons.

Not a Reagan fan, but I think you will

find the answer to the build up of the MIC here.
4 words...Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney.

and yet,

when one points to rumsfeld, cheney, etc, it's as if the Clintons had nothing to do with anything, or any Democrat climbing and being groomed into power. Did Clinton say G.H.W. Bush was like a Dad to him? Bill Clinton Regards George Bush Sr. As “The Father He Never Had”


By Dusten Carlson - in 404 Google+ circlesJul 13, 2012 - Former presidents Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush (Bush the elder) make an unlikely duo, but the two seem to have a marked affinity for ...

Jenna Bush and Hillary Clinton are 'related' through marriage to her ...


Oct 4, 2013
Jenna Bush: Hillary Clinton and I are 'related' through 'Uncle' Bill - George W ...with my grandparents and my father...that my dad calls him a brother from another mother.'....I don't like democrats but RINOs are close behind.

freedomnyms heart

is in the right place. Both the OP and the responders are coming across too hard.

The key to success is changing the hearts and minds of the American people. Voting based upon a letter and corruptstream media will not solve problems.

Lastly, no matter who wins the oval office will matter little, it is local and the house/senate who keep the president at bay, per the Constitution.

Please make friends and spread the word.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

The President signs the

The President signs the bills. Win the hearts of the people and get rid of the voting machines but get your man into office too!

I am also sort of wondering what Jefferson would think... about attending to the inconveniences of too much liberty..... get on the GOP board in your local area.

Get the bums out from the bottom up but actually get into these organizations. Otherwise... idiots will.

Then you CANNOT complain about anything EVER!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?


Perfect! ROFL


I can't stop laughing...

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Oh my friggin G

Golden, you are now my all time favorite DP'er.

We won't

win this fight for liberty focusing on only one strategy. There are many roles and methods people use. In case you haven't noticed it's working. We're winning. For anyone around in 2007 the difference is obvious. Either Ron or Rand Paul is on a MSM show DAILY. We have politicians respecting and fearing challenges from true conservative tea party type candidates. The whole political discourse is changing.

You're right it will take more than typing into a computer, but as they say 80% of success is just showing up. At least people care enough to be here rather than stick their head in the sand.

I ran for national Delegate in 2008 for my state

And I was lead plaintiff for my state in the National Clean elections lawsuit filed in 2007, in all 50 states to bring back paper ballots.

So by your standards.... I can say what ever the hell I want.

This post can kiss my Ass. :)
People have a right to free speech....right ?

If you're looking for a real post talking about a real issue...please visit:



"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

I was not a delegate, my former boss and close friend died...

I asked that the leader of the Ron Paul group to register me in absentia, but she failed to do so. However, during delegate selection, the GOP establishment cheated, prevented ANY Ron Paul supporters from representing our county. However, EVERY time I have denounced BOTH Rand AND Ron for abandoning the Ron Paul delegates, I have been pummeled here at the DAILY PAUL. Where have YOU been?

For the record, I have better things to do with my time than to engage in a fixed game, especially since I believe the country will be in flames by the end of this year, much less 2016.

Thank you for your sacrifices in 2012 and know that many of us believe what you did is far more important that the actions (or lack, thereof) of Ron Paul or Rand Paul.

Thank you for your hard work and efforts!

What an amazing thing you guys did! Well done and thank you!

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

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They're sick of you too.

I know I am.

Then you CANNOT complain about anything EVER!

Seriously? How old are you? 4?

I nominate this for the dumbest post on the Daily Paul. EVER

And BTW, yes, I was a delegate (alternate) in 2008.

Once was enough for me.

Totally off topic but since I

Totally off topic but since I bumped into you (like running into someone in the produce section at the grocery store) I may as well tell you that I watched for the first time For Liberty. I didn't know you were famous!

It was pretty cool seeing this. It was like watching a piece of history unfold. I only caught the tail end of the 2008 elections. Never heard of Ron Paul until someone told me to google him right before the election and after he'd already dropped out.

Wish I would have been invited to the party earlier. But I'm here now and not a minute too soon.

Hahahahahaha...... good one!

Had me going there for a while.

Ahhhh you kidder, you.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!

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