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Wow! Greenwald's Backstory & Snowden "Snowed In"

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How many people on the planet

How many people on the planet are really playing occult secret society Dungeons and Dragons games all day long? How they think they can rule over the entire planet with these silly games is ridiculous.

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From what I can gather about the article..

The author criticises potential conflicts of interest in the building of an independent news/media company; formulating the view with methods of power and control (the left-hand path of the occult); taking the view that Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden are being 'handled' into a suppressed state of affairs (less impact of released NSA documents).

I, however, have faith that Snowden understands information, politics, and modern day coercive techniques enough to have created an overall situation that guarantees the release of NSA information from at least one reputable source while protecting himself. The article appears to have ignored copies of NSA information given to those other than Greenwald.

The author writes at length about historical criticisms of Greenwald and other's past. So, anyone wanting to criticise or slander have this article to ease their research. However, I didn't investigate the validity of those claims.

Right or wrong, it is an interesting perspective for those who want to solidify their understanding with potentially extreme/alternate perspectives. Yoichi Shimatsu (the author) may have some points.


"This self-proclaimed civil libertarian employed the same sort of illegal surveillance that he would later criticize so loudly."

The real story of this taped phone call is a lot less unsavory. Also, the recording of a single telephone call by a private citizen, against whom one has a forum for redress of grievances, is a different animal from "collect it all" state surveillance.

"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

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I Agree, however..

The author gets to state the criticism and is illustrating what can be said against Greenwald, even if it is ultimately slander.

If one wants to be an expert on Greenwald, then one needs to know the criticisms and retorts.

So, even if the article goes overboard, it is still a valuable read, in my opinion.

Here's a serious allegation:

"In 2002, Greenwald went on to bigger things as a business partner in Master Notions, whose clients included the video production company Hairy Jocks, which produced homosexual pornography. A falling out among the partners led to Greenwald forming a new company called Hairy Studs. On the bright side of this shady business, his background in porn could mean a gold mine for Omidyar’s future news company in ads from gay bathhouses and escort services from New York to Rio."

I dunno, it's like the author is reaching pretty far. I don't really want to "look into this" for obvious hetero-bias on my part. Nothing against the LGBT community, just not my taste.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.



too much speculation in this article imo


I've been wondering

why there hasn't been more revelations and if this is article is true, now know why. I kept thinking that if I was Greenwald I'd have a new article posted every Sunday so people would have something to discuss around the cooler at work the next day.
I wonder if Snowden has read this. I would also like to believe that Snowden is not so naive and would still have a file somewhere he could access should things go horribly awry.
Thanks for posting this, Joe. It's given me a lot to think about and investigate.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

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...someone else mentioned a "dirty rat" involved in all this.
It may be the case...certainly possible.
Hope this gets some attention here...and elsewhere, It certainly blew my mind.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Greenwald the "Pornicator"?????

" Knowing quite well that disgruntled government employees will invariably seek legal counsel, what better tactic than to fabricate a “civil liberties” crusader working pro bono along with his wide network of media contacts and deep-pockets funders?

The trap was set, and as predicted the quarry arrived, by the name of Edward Snowden. Like a mouse after cheese, the gullible mark took the bait and followed Greenwald’s every instruction."

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....DPers were singing holy praises about Gary Greenwald.
Some of these "operatives" have been here for YEARS!
Thanks for posting this.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

His name is Glenn Greenwald I believe not Gary.

The story is also easily verifiable by reference to Snowden himself who can confirm whether he did indeed turn over all his data to Greenwald and his alleged British intelligence partner in Hong Kong.

During an interview with the BBC Newsnight programme Greenwald indicated that Snowden still had the bulk of the data and that he, Snowden, had encrypted it beyond the ability of anyone to open the files.

It may be that Greenwald is lying about Snowden having the bulk of the data but if so it would be simple enough for Snowden himself to refute the statement Greenwald made. Thus far he has not done so.

For all we know this article itself may have been planted in order to cast doubt upon Greenwald and his new media venture. It would not be the first time such has been done. In the meantime we can apply a little common sense to these "revelations" and add a smidgeon of salt before consuming them uncritically.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Thanks Dave, My Error

...all because there is a local "attorney/politico" named Gary G.
A Freudian slip on my part, I suppose.

Yes, I agree with your assessment of "a grain of salt" to be taken in reference to this article; BUT, it certainly is a journey down the proverbial rabbit-hole.

Especially interesting is the manner in which it was almost hijacked....the video of a "boring" lecture on DNA and the number "9".....anything to suppress a glimpse of possibilities?

Thanks again.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!


is way above my paygreyed.

God forgives always. Man forgives sometimes. But Nature never forgives.

me too

It's like crawling into Alex Jones' head... it's dark.. my candle keeps flickering and my compass is just spinning round and round.
I look up into the eyes of a smiling Cheshire cat...
"oh Auntie Em.. where ARE you????"


...I'm hearing you.

God forgives always. Man forgives sometimes. But Nature never forgives.

I wonder if the Bahai Faith

I wonder if the Bahai Faith mentioned in the article was infiltrated by evil people because of what it represents and what Marco Rodin discovered, to steal the technology for themselves? See my post below.

This was a very good read

This was a very good read although not 100% verifiable, you will learn a lot.

Something I can add not mentioned, Marco Roden discovered the secret of the number 9 mentioned in the article.

"One well published and well copied on-line report notes that Rodin fell upon a base-10 digit system during his youth while on a spiritual quest to find the “fingerprint of God.” This, in turn, led to the development of what he calls toroidal matrix mathematics.

He says he was seeking the mystical intonation of The Most Great Name of God after becoming a believer in the Bahai Faith. He converted the name of God, which is Abha, by converting the letters in the Arabic language into numbers as they appear in the Abjad numerical system. In translation Rodin found that A=1, b=2, h=5 and a=1 for a total of 9.

Next Rodin drew a circle and placed the number 9 at the top. Then he wrote the numbers 1 through 8 in a clockwise direction around the circle. Through experimentation, he next came upon something profound by drawing straight lines from number to number within the circle."

Marko Rodin "Kod DNA"

I wonder how many people

I wonder how many people actually believe this crap?

Do you really believe this? So, tell me, after watching 50+ videos of this guy on youtube, is there one single mathematical truth that you can prove that you didn't know before? (just to make things clear, saying crap like "9 is a perfect number" is as much of a truth as saying "17 is a horrible number" if you don't prove it. And saying - here is a computer animation "based on number 9" really also isn't saying anything.). If you watched his videos, and if you have some education in mathematics, you would have realized that this guy has to use a pre-written notebook in order to do multiplications, would a math genius need a textbook for multiplications of small numbers? Then ask yourself - how much of this gibberish do you really understand, and how much of it seems like non sequitur snake oil selling?

There was also this guy Powell who tried to sell the same vortex-based-mathematics crap. He even got to do a TEDx talk. I think he is the only speaker that TEDx apologized for having on show (after lots of people with mathematical/physics background saw it and said that they couldn't listen to him because he just spewes unconnected technical terms, TED asked Powell to show them his papers / research which would prove that he wasn't a hoax.. Try to guess how that went :)

Not all enlightened people

Not all enlightened people are require to have a PHD to be able to impart knowledge from the creator.

Bahá'í Faith

I used Startpage

Is this how this site really looks when not using proxy?


if it is: Welcome to the 1990s. Internet Disinformation.


and 100 up votes for this article (well, most of it)There was always a big, dirty stinking RAT behind the Snowden affair.
I really, really hope that people will take notice, do their own research, and come to the conclusion that we are being herded like sheep to a predetermined outcome.
Thank you!

there's a site...GLP, google

there's a site...GLP, google it. this thread belongs there, not here.

If in fact

Glenn started a gay-porno company, and is now being painted as some champion of the civil libertarians, that is relevant information that belongs here.

More research necessary at this point.

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Explain the relevance please.

Explain the relevance please.