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Rothschilds are Papal Knights and Vatican Instruments

"Rothschild" means "Red Shield" which represents the Sovereign Military Order of Malta



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Why should I care?

Yup, the Knights of Malta are still around and still Catholic. They have a website.


I mean seriously, it sounds all spooky and conspiracy-like until you notice that the Order in question blatantly exists and has a publically accessible website. It honestly wouldn't shock me if a lot of rich Catholics were members. Or a lot of Catholics in general. Color me unimpressed with this "conspiracy."

This Guy Is Absolutely Correct!!!~

All ROADS LEAD TO ROME! The Reformers all said that the Papacy was the Anti-Christ power. The Papacy had and has always had the power over Kings, Queens, and Monarchs, and to deny this is to deny history....or be ignorant of it!

Medieval Sourcebook:
John I:
Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213


John, by the grace of God, king of England, lord of Ireland, duke of Normandy and Aquitaine, count of Anjou, to all the faithful of Christ who shall look upon this pre. sent charter, greeting.

We wish it to be known to all of you, through this our charter, furnished with our seal, that inasmuch as we had offended in many ways God and our mother the holy church, and in consequence are known to have very, much needed the divine mercy, and can not offer anything worthy for making due satisfaction to God and to the church unless we humiliate ourselves and our kingdoms:-we, wishing to humiliate ourselves for Him who humiliated Himself for us unto death, the grace of the Holy Spirit inspiring, not induced by force or compelled by fear, but of our own good and spontaneous will and by the common counsel of our barons, do offer and freely concede to God and His holy apostles Peter and Paul and to our mother the holy Roman church, and to our lord pope Innocent and to his Catholic successors, the whole kingdom of England and the whole kingdom Ireland, with all their rights and appurtenances, for the. remission of our own sins and of those of our whole race as well for the living as for the dead; and now receiving and holding them, as it were a vassal, from God and the Roman church, in the presence of that prudent man Pandulph, subdeacon and of the household of the lord pope, we perform and swear fealty for them to him our aforesaid lord pope Innocent, and his catholic successors and the Roman church, according to the form appended; and in the presence of the lord pope, if we shall be able to come before him, we shall do liege homage to him; binding our successors aid our heirs by our wife forever, in -similar manner to perform fealty and show homage to him who shall be chief pontiff at that time, and to the Roman church without demur. As a sign, moreover, of this our on we will and establish perpetual obligation and concession we will establish that from the proper and especial revenues of our aforesaid kingdoms, for all the service and customs which we ought to render for them, saving in all things the penny of St. Peter, the Roman church shall receive yearly a thousand marks sterling, namely at the feast of St. Michael five hundred marks, and at Easter five hundred marks-seven hundred, namely, for the kingdom of England, and three hundred for the kingdom of Ireland-saving to us and to our heirs our rights, liberties and regalia; all of which things, as they have been described above, we wish to have perpetually valid and firm; and we bind ourselves and our successors not to act counter to them. And if we or any one of our successors shall presume to attempt this, whoever he be, unless being duly warned he come to his kingdom, and this senses, be shall lose his right to the kingdom, and this charter of our obligation and concession shall always remain firm.

Form of the oath of fealty
I, John, by the grace of God, 'king of England and lord of Ireland, from this hour forth will be faithful to God and St, Peter and the Roman church and my lord pope Innocent and his Successors who are ordained in a Catholic manner: I shall not bring it about by deed, word, consent or counsel, that they lose life or members or be taken captive, I will impede their being harmed if I know of it, and will cause harm to be removed from them if I shall be able: otherwise as quickly as I can I will intimate it or tell of it to such persons as I believe for certain will inform them. Any counsel which they entrust to me through themselves or through their envoys or through their letters, I will keep secret, nor will I knowingly disclose it to anyone to their harm. I will aid to the best of my ability in holding and defending against all men the patrimony of St. Peter, and especially the kingdom of England and the kingdom of Ireland. So may God and these holy Gospels aid me.
I myself bearing witness in the house of the Knights Templars near Dover, in the presence of master H., archbishop of Dublin; master J., bishop of Norwich; G., the son of Peter count of Essex, our justice; W., count of Salisbury, our brother; W. Marshall, count of Pembroke; R., count of Boulogne; W., count of Warren; S., count of Winchester; W., cuunt of Arundel; W., count of Ferrieres; W, Briwer; Peter, son of Herbert; Warin, son of Gerold; on the 15th day of May, in the 14th year of our reign.

from. Stubb's Charters, p. 284, translated in Ernest F. Henderson, , Select Historical Documents of the Middle Ages, (London: George Bell, 1910), pp. 430-431

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(c)Paul Halsall Jan 1996

Here is a video, all historical fact.

St Thomas à Becket 1964 1 of 15


In 1982, Pope John Paul II visited the United Kingdom. He kissed the ground at Gatwick airport as a sign of authority. Where did that authority come from? BBC tells us of his visit:

In 1982 Pope John Paul II visited the UK, kissing the ground at Gatwick airport

John Paul II became the first pontiff ever to visit the UK when he made the six-day tour of the country.

He visited Canterbury Cathedral on 29 May to say prayers with the then [Anglican] Archbishop of Canterbury Robert Runcie. Streets were lined by 25,000 people and the Pope told the congregation it was a day "which centuries and generations have awaited"...

The Pope and Dr Runcie knelt in silent prayer at The Place of the Martyrdom, the spot where St Thomas-a-Becket was murdered in 1170.

Derek Ingram-Hill, an honorary canon at the cathedral...said: "It was a very moving moment to see the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury praying on the very spot where the most famous of all archbishops, Thomas-a-Becket, had fallen so many centuries ago.“i

What is so monumental about Thomas Becket's death?

Who is Thomas Becket?

Thomas Becket, also known as Thomas-a-Becket or Thomas à Becket (1118-1170), was the Archbishop of Canterbury from 1162 to 1170 AD. Remember that this occurred before the Protestant Reformation, meaning that the Catholic Church was the only Church. The Archbishop of Canterbury was Catholic, as Anglicanism did not yet exist.

At that time, King Henry II of England (1133-1189) wanted to decrease the power of the Roman Catholic Church in his kingdom. Henry wrote 16 constitutions to this end, but Becket refused to ratify them.

According to the New World Encyclopedia, "Henry was characteristically stubborn and on 8 October 1164, he called the Archbishop, Thomas Becket, before the Royal Council. However, Becket had fled to France and was under the protection of Henry's rival, Louis VII of France.

"The King continued doggedly in his pursuit of control over his clerics, to the point where his religious policy became detrimental to his subjects. By 1170, the Pope was considering excommunicating all of Britain. Only Henry's agreement that Becket could return to England without penalty prevented this fate."ii

When Becket returned, he began to excommunicate his opponents in the Church, frustrating more of King Henry's plans. In a moment of anger, the king said something along the lines of, "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?" And unfortunately for Thomas Becket, four of Henry's devout knights overheard the king's complaints and decided to answer the King's call by ruthlessly murdering Becket in 1170.iii
The Fallout

Becket's murder caused more stress than relief for King Henry II, who had to smooth things over with the Papacy:

The place where Thomas Becket was murdered.Source: Paradoxplace.

The place where Thomas Becket was murdered.

Source: Paradoxplace.

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Just three years later, Becket was canonized and revered as a martyr against secular interference in God's church; Pope Alexander III had declared Thomas Becket a saint...The Compromise of Avranches in 1172 marked the reconciliation of Henry II of England with the Catholic Church after the murder in 1170 of Thomas Becket. Henry was purged of any guilt in Becket's murder, but he agreed that the secular courts had no jurisdiction over the clergy, with the exceptions of high treason, highway robbery and arson:

The murder had far-reaching consequences for England, but the immediate result was that Henry II had to make peace with the Church. He did this four years later by performing penance at Canterbury Cathedral. He was beaten by eighty monks while wearing sack cloth and ashes and spent the night in vigil at Saint Thomas Becket's tomb. The Church had wasted no time and had canonized Becket in 1173. He (Henry II) also had to promise to raise money for the Crusades and to either mount a Crusade or make a pilgrimage. He did neither. There was enough to do at home.iv

It's clear from these stories that the true power behind the British throne in those days was the Pope. In fact, the Pope dominated the entire continent—Catholicism reigned as the only Christianity for 1260 years in Europe.

In the early 1200s, King John of England (1166-1216) had no better luck in keeping the Pope happy.

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Concessions that Changed the World

I have to disagree with this vid but thrilled to see it posted

I've done quite a bit of research on this subject and even posted here about it in my very first post on the DP.

The Rothschild empire is older than any of the history the video discusses. I think the gentleman in the video is misunderstanding a few relationships. The Rothschilds are given title AFTER they take over a nation. This is done through loan-sharking, bribery and threats of violence.

They captured the governments of the US, UK and France in the early 19th century and had already gained control of Germany and Austria in the 18th century.

It would make sense that there is a relationship between the Rothschilds and the Vatican but I would bet it's a more equal relationship in which each side believes they possess the upper-hand.

I think the money is more important to control today than the faith... which is why the structure has tilted so drastically away from religious control and more toward economic control.

The Vatican is no doubt a horrible and corrupt institution, but that's just a natural function of the power structure, not a reflection on Catholicism itself... and I believe that while the same group of gangsters have infiltrated the Vatican which have infiltrated the governments and financial power-infrastructure of all of the developed world, the great plot of which so many speak is merely a plot of a bunch of selfish douchebags who want the world for themselves and their progeny... I don't believe there is any religious motivation behind any of it. Perhaps manipulation of the masses through twisting words and meanings from important texts, but I can't see a great satanic conspiracy or a parallel version based on aliens (although I really wish i could believe the alien one, that would be really cool.)

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

Exactly the same conclusion I came to many years ago.

HEnce the tale wagging the dog comment below.

IF the vatican created the money as debt and held humanity as false debt slaves while creating genocidal wars then I would say they are the core problem but since the vatican operates under the financial mercy of the Rothschild bankers or better yet why would the catholic supreme give honors the the Jew banker family Rothschild? Typical tho to blame illuminati mason the religon zionist or jewish instead of the actual crime family.


Hi, thanks. I'd like to see this discussed more too.

For a more detailed background, I encourage anyone who sees this to read the post by the person with User ID: 1475421 in this forum thread:


Also see:


Rothschild's are "Guardians of the Vatican Treasury" and mere Sabbatean Frankist Hofjuden




More like wagging the entire planet


I think this guy is mixing state

and church, and while there is a connection, church pays taxes, the Holy Catholic Church does not rule the world through the rothshields

Hey Granger

Hi there,

I don't think we've ever "e-met" here before, but you're a legend, so I'm happy to be interacting here.

I have to clarify a couple points.

1. Churches (including the Catholic Church) are tax-exempt.
2. The Vatican (Vatican City) is its own nation. The smallest recognized nation on earth, but an independent nation nonetheless.

As far as the last part of your statement, I agree. The Church does not rule the world through the Rothschilds. An interesting side note though, which I'd love to discuss with you on another thread or via private-message: The Rothschilds DO own the nation of Israel. They were directly granted the land by the British Crown after WWI.

At their inceptions, the #Liberty, #OccupyWallStreet and #TeaParty movements all had the same basic goal... What happened?

Hi There @popfreeradio

Nice to formally e-meet you.

Link #1:

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my comment having not seen your link:

Why does the IRS put out a tax guild for Churches? http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

Link #2:

Yes, the Vatican is it's own state, and the Rothchilds have been the bankers for the crown and church, and yes, they have huge purchases in Israel. They represent "old money", where the Rockefellers represent the industrial age.

Show me your document please. Maybe you can use that to start a new thread about the Rothshield and Israel?

Thank you for bumping this important topic, The Granger

I wish you a terrific day!

YW Vertigas

If you think this is all important, by all means I'm having a much better day helping you get the word out.

Debucking another conspiracy theory

Oh joy!

Do you people ever wonder where all the conspiracies come from……Some come from the Church, both Protestant and Catholic Churchs…they don’t want to end control…they want to be in control, just like the State. None of these conspiracies theories ever talk about Liberty…..they only talk about the “BAD” people in the other army, but NEVER SAY A WORD ABOUT LIBERTY……if for no other reason you should ignore these kooks.

This is misinformation.

Or badly veiled disinformation. The video does not "debunk" anything. The Jesuit Oath appeared before it was mentioned in Congress in the Book "Subterranean Rome" by Charles Didier.


According to Rivera, the VATICAN did create Islam:


a lot to digest and consider, thanks for sharing this with us.

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No matter how much money they

No matter how much money they have, once they're a little old they get ugly, creepy, and hideously looking.

Its not about money

Its about a multi generational crime syndicate that uses false national debts created in their shill central bank corporations to enslave humanity while engineering perpetual genocide wars to create left right distractions.

Its not about money! They already have it all. Its not about possesions they own it all (hidden layers of corp ownership). Its about power and control. Its a schopranic multigenerational spiral between the drunken godly power over humanity and the fear of being found out and stopped.

The appropraite punishment, multigenerational perpetual poverty for all of their clan involved in false national debts/genocide war scams.

Humanity is awakining and I predict a perge. So will they wipe out humanity before humanity frees iself from these false debt parasites.