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Colorado Pot Law: Just Another Excuse to Confiscate Wealth (VIDEO)

Colorado Pot Law: Just Another Excuse to Confiscate Wealth (VIDEO)


By KRISTEN WYATT | Nov. 1, 2013 2:04 AM EDT

DENVER (AP) — A pro-pot jingle in Colorado last year went like this: "Jobs for our people/Money for schools/Who could ask for more?" Nearly a year after Colorado legalized recreational weed, voters get the chance to decide exactly how much more — in taxes.

On Tuesday, voters decide whether to approve a 15 percent pot excise tax to pay for school construction, plus an extra sales tax of 10 percent to fund marijuana enforcement.

Some pot activists are campaigning against the taxes, arguing that marijuana should be taxed like beer, which has a tax rate of 8 cents a gallon. They've handed out free joints at tax protests.

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Is it illegal

to grow it. Are they going to make it like moonshine. Can buy it from the state, but go to jail if you make it.

Seems to me that if recreational has been legalized then you should be able to grow it.

it's legal for anyone to grow 6 plants in colorado if you're 21

if you have a medical card you can grow as many plants as your doctor prescribes, usually under 99 plants and 2 pounds. no age limits on mmj.

in wash state i believe it still illegal to grow unless you have a medical card and they are trying to do away with that.

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this law will not pass, will

this law will not pass, will be surprised if it does but i highly doubt it. We have a good voter base to repeal these stupid attempts by the brainwashed anti-marijuana folks.

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you haven't told us anything

you haven't told us anything granger. fact this law will not pass. so you told us so means absolutely NOTHING!! if it passes which i highly doubt it just means a few more folks will be removed from office for overstepping their bounds but i do not give this a chance to pass.

nothing is perfect but better then whatever state you live in.

We are the Majority Voter Block. It will be voted down, if it gets voted through? then we all go back to the reg market instead of the states controlled market.

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I find it ridiculous that the

I find it ridiculous that the government gets to dictate what is bad and what isn't by taxing them more/less. Why the hell should pot be taxed any differently than beer? Why the hell should beer be taxed any differently than a shirt?

If ignorance is bliss, Washington DC must be heaven.



Do not forget...

There are new laws pertaining to driving with MJ in your system ($$$) and I suspect gun rights will be in at risk in the future.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."

those of us for decriminalization

told you so!

Yep. We did. Additionally, do

Yep. We did. Additionally, do you notice a connection?

Construction of (in this case) schools.

Linking a thing private to a thing societal will increase the former to prolific. Justifying the use of marijuana will be those who reference studies that show marijuana improves health while omitting that it can harm health, particularly the brain, where the mind is. Then, (as) if citing references don't increase pot smoking enough, studies from the opposite side of the spectrum will be published to cause confusion among people about quality of weed, creating skepticism and perhaps cynicism in the minds of weed smokers concerning who sells what quality, then, because of conflict/confusion, the pot smokers will demand government be more involved in the control of weed (to "guarantee" weed's quality). Guarantee it will: More government involvement will worsen the quality and increase prices. Those two things will follow if the government is squarely and maybe solely where today it isn't, the issuer of licence of anything weed and provide it another "reason" for it to raid homes, businesses and whatever else.

Smoke a blunt? Operative word: blunt. You bet. Blunt the minds, enslave the bodies.

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Absolutely I see a connection, on so many levels too.

My instict tells me, that as we go into a global NWO, the marijuana legal debate, also has to do with the global money.. so they need to "wrap it up".. as the states debate legalization, I predict, that the UN is going to announce some global marshall law on marijuana, and that is going to spark conroversy in the states, where those who are legal, will not only have more government intrusion, but the benfit of having the laws as the "net" from global criminalization.. it will become an international crime.

At least this is my feeling in what direction they are taking us, as it has always seemed to me, that marijuana represents freedom better than any symbol, as it seems to be on the front line of growing a prison state, and setting precidents rather than constitutional law.

Hi, Granger, I'm afraid I

Hi, Granger, I'm afraid I don't understand a few things.

1) Wrap it up?

2) You said there would be a law against marijuana globally, correct? If yes, then...

3) ...I don't understand the connection between that sentence and what you said after it, that the law would cause government intrusion into people's lives. I think I understand. The conflict -- UN law versus state legality -- would place the mj smoker in the middle of them, and if the state yields to the UN, then the force of state law, I would argue, is to cause distress to the smoker, making him feel in limbo and to invite UN forces onto our soil to disrupt our country further and to turn it into the UN. I don't know if what I said there is correct, and regardless if it is, would you elaborate on this point, the "intrusion into lives" point? I want to know what you meant, is all.

Interesting connection: conflicting laws (between states and UN) and growing incarceration numbers. This projection is worth observation. Insightful projection, Granger.

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Hi A-B--B-A

Wrap it up? I don't know

#2. The war on drugs is international, so the states legalizing marijuana are creating a headache for the US's War on Drugs internationally: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/11/2012111302152...

#3. Right, when this war on drugs goes before the UN General Assembly before 2015 (Mexico and South America are asking for it), My guess would be the states that don't have laws (legalization) will fold into the UN drug war, while the states that have laws will pressure the people with help of the feds.

UN global government is just more government, more bigger government, more intrusion.

I think watching each state will be very interesting and telling about what to expect from the emerging global government, which doesn't look to me to be ending the war on drugs anytime soon.
I think in many ways we've always been global. I like coffee and chocolate and I don't grow either, nor do I think I could without a specific greenhouse for them.. coffee and chocolate are one thing, starbucks and nestles is another..

gosh I just had the damnest thought.. I was thinking about when needing online help decade or more ago, I would find myself talking to someone with an accent that I could not understand that they were saying.. and then I pictured myself on a UN Court, with the guy on the phone I couldn't understand as my public defendent.. ,

1) You said wrap it up. I

1) You said wrap it up. I quoted you. So you don't know what you meant when you said wrap it up? In other words, wrap what up?

2) Who would incur hardship from the states legalizing mj?

3) So the states not without law on mj but without legalization on mj would "fold into the UN drug war," meaning those states would acquiesce to UN law and even allow UN police to patrol the streets of those states?

I disbelieve the war on drugs will end any time soon. Likely it's one means of many means to forcefully put together an end, an end that decimates mankind except the humans who want to decimate mankind.

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OIC Yes I did

What I meant by "wrap it up", is they need to align their soveirn nation agendas/precedents (laws and funds) to implement a global war on drugs.

2) The states that have legalized it will have to find ways to end the legalization, and that is going to hurt a lot of people, and the states on many levels. And yes, I think that as the war on terror and war on drugs take us from a police state to a prison planet, in the theme of the movie, "Brazil".

I don't think it will end. It produces government jobs, and cheap labor for government corproations like American Correctional Corporation..

Wrapping it up. So that

Wrapping it up. So that phrase, wrap it up, is positioning governments and their colluding entities to be offensive against people in those countries? Or is "wrap it up" the activity after this positioning? The activity would be offense, the tyranny -- the agents of force monitoring, raiding and arresting of people to put them into the perversion of "speedy trial" whose conclusion would be death?

What will the ending of legalization consist of? In other words, what would be done to end legalization while hurting people and states?

Mind describing prison planet and how it is in the movie "Brazil"?

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In the theme of "Brazil"

The pattern I see is, government breaks what it has, for example, NSA has been around for decades, suddenly it's a big MSM deal because they were spying(and to get Americans upset and angry with their government.. make them want to lose their government), which the UN has a solution, then it spreads globally, so, IOWs, to make a global security administration they need to "break" the national version, to do that they have to make Americans not want what they have.

Constitutional protection/ Bill of rights, will give way to UN precideent and treaties. I mention the movie "Brazil" because on the movie, everything appeared very controlled and yet chaotic at the same time.

Summing it all up, the govenernments of the world make way too much money, have tyranical control over the population by controlling drugs, so whay would they give that up? They won't.

suddenly it's a big MSM deal

suddenly it's a big MSM deal because they were spying(and to get Americans upset and angry with their government.. make them want to lose their government)....

Agreed. But regardless when the NSA started spying, spying is wrong. I oppose the NSA's spying, but I believe what you believe, that the discussion about it is contrived, that it's occurring now because it was set up to occur now, that is, when the pieces of global government are in place to take over spying. The NSA merely was to be a stepping stone to a global agency, as if the NSA operation isn't global but still it operates to US government control, NOT the UN's.

Spying regarding the Internet: I think that's what the Internet is, a spy, a monitor. Also it is -- to use an old saying describing the Internet -- The Web, a thing that ties all things together because of its nature, digital, provided by wires or remote. This tying is the stationing of buying and selling, you know, economics, the fancy word for -- trade. The Internet's nature allows the agent of control to turn off an individual's access to trade -- therefore access to self providence, the providing for one's self, consequently relegating him to death through withering -- if he is against the system. A prophecy from the Bible and maybe other such books, you could say.

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A Monitor

good one.. and to think Al Gore took credit for inventing the computer.. maybe this is what he meant after all?


told us what?

did you favor decriminalization vs legalization oR something?


Back in 2010 we had legalization on the ballot in CA, and a big battle took off between pro-and anti-legalization. It was a brutal battle, decriminalization won.. http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_19,_the_Marijuana_Legalization_Initiative_(2010)

so of course they want it back on the ballot.

It seems to some of us, that once the government begins taxing, they continue to make more laws and regulations, just look at tobacco.

Well, there is no shortage of

Well, there is no shortage of growers in the state so it will just be sold underground. At least you can grow your own for cheap and have a really cool indoor garden at the same time. Cannabis is hands down the coolest looking plant you can grow from a horticultural perspective.

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yep you sum it up well,

yep you sum it up well, already been pretty much legal by the people the last 20 years already. The state is just finally catching up or trying to. either way. law or not marijuana is and has been legal for many years even with out the state involved. The people decided along time ago before their law changed;)

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Its pretty funny how its

Its pretty funny how its pretty much everywhere and socially accepted yet the gov is still trying to hold on to prohibition.

Lol I remember when I got my mmj card in Colorado and while I was walking out of the office the only thing I could think was,

"I got a golden ticket!"

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Again they create a new black market

Driving honest good people underground with extorted theft called tax the taking of personal property without permiission (theft) The threats of prison and swat (death) is the Extortion.

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Now that they've destroyed the black market, they're starting to raise the prices and gouge the consumers.

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there is no black market,

there is no black market, only a GREEN MARKET and it is run by colorado folks:) i hate the word black market:)from now on call it GREEN MARKET and Caregivers do what they can to help colorado.

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