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First time Israel bombs somebody and nobody really cares.

On 10/31/2013, a handful of news outlets reported that Israel was first suspected and later confirmed to have bombed an airbase in Syria.

I caught the report on Business Insider and sought confirmation. They had found a breaking story.

Syrian sources said the attack came from sea but Lebanese security reported Israeli warplanes flying through the area towards Syria.

The strike, which is reported to have caused zero deaths, was directed at an airbase said to house antiaircraft missiles. And interesting target given their defensive role to Syria and their relative non-threat to nations outside of it. Unless that is if Al-Queda gets a hold of them which is the guaranteed outcome of the fall of the Assad regime.

Another note is these munitions are almost guaranteed to be of Russian origin and nobody really wants to find out what they can do using their own airplanes. Not the latest and greatest ones. Less recently Israel hit a load of "game changing munitions" that Al-Queda was transporting in Syria. The range of options on what those might have been are endless but Russian (and Chinese) antiaircraft and surface to surface (anti-ship) weapons have been on everybody's mind for a while now.

It seems in the Israeli and US REGIMES best interests to contain Syria and let Assad and Al-Queda burn themselves out against each other then strike a deal with a weakened victor. Al Queda might have regional ambitions but somebody is gonna want to sit atop Syria and from the second they take the pillow they are gonna wanna stay put and control it.

Regardless of the fact that this continuation firmly establishes that Israel is presently at war against Syria, the world has accepted this as business as usual. And Business Insider pulled it from front page in about 15 minutes.

It wasn't really insider information anymore. Their traffic analysis software also makes it easy for them to see when nobody really cares.

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this discussion/argument is . . .

already passe. There's a new report on how Israel is angry with Obama for 'leaking' the news on the bombing.

Now those of us who wonder WHAT the truth is can watch the arguing about that--

as "everyone" tries to decide what is good or bad about that particular phenomenon.

IF it is true, that Israel is angry with Obama for 'leaking' the information, free journalism certainly is dead.

But then it has been dead for many decades; WWI pretty much finished it off--

the 'state' gained so much control of information then.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

News

"Today in Gaza, racist Israeli anti-semitic soldiers in the IDF again murdered dirt poor Palestinian women and children who posed no threat, and for no purpose other than they were not Jews. Presidenterrorist Warbama condoned the killings then committed another war crime terror attack of his own and drone strike murdered poor Pakistani children on their way to school, 'double-tapping' their teachers and parents who rushed to to their aid. The Military-Industrial Complex' bought and paid for CONgresstraitorsmen were quoted as yelling '9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11' with darting eyes and smirking grins, immediately Lockheed Martin and General Atomics Aeronautical Systems won another set of no-bid contracts to supply extra unnecessary Hellfire missiles and Grim Reaper drones to CIA, while Israel was given another Billion dollar bonus of future US taxpayer money stolen by the FED. Fake Progressives who were part of Fake Occupy cheered 'Bernanke!' and 'Yellen!' because being more in debt means less debt, and because Presidenterrorist Liebama is POTUS; he isn't Bush, he has a different name. Retardation, Fascism and Immorality continue unabated."

I know what you're gonna say, 'Jews are the ONLY semites!'

Nope, wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people

Israelis who murder Palestinians: racist anti-semite Israelis.

THEY WILL PAY!

EVERY action has an equal and opposite REACTION - Not just in physics, but in all other aspects of life.

By the way - Israel didn't do this alone - WE (the U.S.) did it with the billions of dollars we give them each year in weapons and foreign aid.

OUR GOVERNMENT DID IT IN EACH OF OUR NAMES!

And not 1 in 10,000 Americans gives a damn.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Israel did this:

Really?

Actually, I saved that picture from last fall when Israel was

bombing the crap out of Gaza and they murdered lots of kids. I have plenty more of the kids.

No they didn't

Israel did no such thing.

Here's where US tax payers money go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_atta...

And suicide bombers can kill

And suicide bombers can kill Israeli children and many here at the DP could careless.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

That's right Granger they are HYPOCRITES!!! TROLLS to the MAX

+1

DailyPaul is so infiltrated, the H-I-Fers wont even have an intelligent discussion. You & I both know by now that it is not objective criticism, it is one-sided, biased hatred.

As far as I'm concerned these people are infiltrators and enemies to the Liberty Movement and America.

They will excuse killing, torture, rape & murder so long as it is Muslims doing the killing, but they will focus like a microscope on anything they perceive Israel does wrong.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I don't know about you

But I know for me, I feel very very blessed and gratful tohave been shown an Israel that I love and look forward to visiting (and spending money) and having my own personal experience.. whatever that is.

I will be the first here to admit that you question, and are critical of Israel's government and policies where I am not. And I find it interesting that the consessions you make here, explaining that you are critical of Israel yourself, like the concessions Israel makes, are not seen by those who do not have love in their heart for Israel..

And, if a person does not have love in their heart for Israel, God help them. This I pray.

Shalom!

it's not true that *we* don't care--

the life of one child is as important as the life of any other child--

the Israeli government's own statistics show that many more Palestinian children are killed, but--

a dead child is a dead child.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

It has happened, friend. That much, at least, is true.

Miko Peled's (author of 'The General's Son') niece was killed by a suicide bomber. It was the turning point in his life. He found himself wishing the guy who killed her would suffer something ugly, only to realize that the guy deliberately killed himself, too. That led Peled on a journey to find the truth and a path to lasting peace.

The problem with the statement you replied to is that WE DO CARE. It doesn't matter who or what the innocent human being is. The killing has to stop and can only be stopped when the truth is freely given to both sides.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

But truth is seldom given to both sides -

I agree with you, that truth is the only thing that will stop the killing, but truth will never be given to both sides so long as someone else above those sides has designs that go beyond facts.

At least we have the DP to share info

and help get the truth out there. No wonder a few people are trying to subvert the truth on this site. The only way to combat that is to unite in our diversity against lies and those who spread them here. Human life is not as cheap as some would pretend it is.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Down voted? Very telling!

There really is at least one person here who is intent on fanning the flames of divisiveness on DP and in the Middle East. Shame on you!

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

One? Dozens. They are the ones espousing HATE & Globalism...

...in the name of hating on Israel.

Oh, that includes you? Ooops....

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I voted you back up one--

you are correct; there gets to be a knee jerk reaction with the voting--

even though official Israeli statistics/records show that more Palestinian children are killed than Israeli children--

the death from this kind of violence of one child (of any designation) is 'too many'--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Israel gets a special pass. It doesn't have to follow

anybody's rules or international law.

Israel can do anything they want to Palestinians.

Doesn't have to admit to its nuclear weapons.

Is exempt from any controls over its chemical weapons.

And can bomb anyone they see fit with impunity.

Didn't you know this?

OH, BOO HOO for the Globalists! Don't get to boss Israel around.

what a freakin joke some DPers are becoming...

This Hate-Israel-FIRST trend on DP is getting so out-of-control it's undermining every libertarian principle & constitutional law just to take shots at Israel/the Jews.

I cannot believe the upvotes for globalism and hatred.

I'm really starting to question many DPers...

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I didn't know that

Know why Israel has the world whipped?

First you have a group of people that have one thing in commom, they are Jewish, and they grow up hearing about holocasts, disporsaa, crusades, exodus, population purges (Sharon purged 400,000 Jews from Gaza in 2004), and they get their own experience of passive aggressive and hostile abuse from bigots and racists who talk about Jews and now Israels are the bad, evil people in this world, they are blamed for all the injustice and loss in the world of what is good and wholesome.

Israel is smarter than the adverage country when it comes to signing UN agreements.. UN established Israel and then Israel fought for their independence from the UN.. If you actually cared about Israel's ability to act I'll be happy to link you up to an interesting lecture about Israel and International laws, how they work for Israel's rights..

Israel has had a pass-card since WW2 and the Holocaust,

they have a powerful lobby and they have put a lot of people into power in the US government. Israel gets to pull things nobody else is allowed to by playing political games and relying on sympathy from the past.

Since 48 when they declared Independence from the UN

legal case for Israel explains why (and what I really liked about the vid is it helped me see how contractual laws can be manipulated. Israel is good. I admire them.. I mean wow.. the political game Israel plays is "how to survive in a shark tank".

Whose laws are they supposed

Whose laws are they supposed to follow? The UN? If got an idea, why don't you go spend your money and risk your life fighting the Israelis. Don't try to get other nations - ie the taxpayers to risk their lives. If you want to use force, then volunteer yourself, if you want to spend money, spend yours.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

+1... More-Liberty, you get it

No more proof that the Hate-Israel-FIRSTer crowd are really gov't trolls is needed than the fact they espouse UN GLOBALISM & Interventionism (but seemingly ONLY when it comes to Israel)...

Seriously, if you support GLOBALISM you are a PHONY LIBERTARIAN, PHONY LIBERTY MOVEMENT supporter!!!!!!!
If you cannot see it, you are a phony yourself, or you just plain don't understand the consistent ideology.

You cannot be in line with Ron Paul's ideals if you support globalism, you are OUT-OF-LINE with Dr. Paul's ideals!!!!
YOU DON'T BELONG HERE!!!!

Ron Paul even supports ISRAELI sovereignty over GLOBALIST intervention!!!!!

GTFOH!!!!!!!!!!

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

I have a better idea. Why doesn't Israel play by the same rules

everyone else has to follow (Ever hear of international law? Or treaties regarding the use of chemical weapons that Syria, that Syria was expected to follow even though, till recently, it hadn't signed? Israel STILL hasn't signed and doesn't follow.) or become a recognized and despised rogue state, like North Korea?

Did I say that we (or I) should attack Israel? Only in your fantasy.

How about instead actually responding to what I wrote - rather than stuff you make up?

International law? You

International law? You globalist fool. They didn't sign the treaty. So why would they follow it.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Because Israel was established by the UN

All the nations got together and said, "We have a Kew problem.. Hitler can't eliminate the pigs fast enough, people are getting sicj and tired or the round ups, the killing.. we need to do something, the Jews in Warsaw are fighting back. What the haell are we going to do about the Jews?"

They decided that it was a better plan to establish a homeland for the Jews, a place to attract them and get them out of their countries.. so Israel was created, and it has a very very interesting history.. and it's as if the powers that be, decided to gives the Jews a homeland, and the Jews have taken that land and built the greatest civilization on Earth despite all the setr backs, lies wars. More countries turn to Israel for solutions than they turn to the UN.

Learn why and how Israel signed their treaties and made their bed, and then you will understand what is really happening in the MS, and it's not what many here say.

So we have globalists on the DP... Just admit it...

You can care less about the principles that Ron Paul subscribes to. You are willing to create a globalist world, (in fact that is your goal, you are NWO trolls) just so you can rip on Israel.

DAILYPAUL, & my fellow Liberty Loving Americans! WAKE UP!!!!

These people are pushing HATE so that you'll side with them, support globalism JUST TO UNDERMINE the JEWS IN ISRAEL!!!

DP is being PLAYED like a FIDDLE, by these NAZIS!!!!!

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

Globalists hate Israel? Now I 've heard everything.

Globalist are supported by the banksters and the banksters LOVE Israel.

No single country, except the US, represents the idea of one world government more than Israel does.