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Got it. It's all our fault

The LAX shooter was a "patriot," didn't believe in "fiat money," and thought there was an elite group of people trying to establish a "new world order." U.S. News could find no better source of background on these ideas than the Southern Poverty Law Center. After all, they don't dare talk to one of us to see what our reaction is to the shooting and if it really represents our way of acting and thinking.


I'm feeling a little demonized right now.

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I know it doesn't really mean anything.....

...it's just odd sh*t...

Just for the heck of it I did an internet search for "ciancia government U.S." and just browsing around...

1) Found a "Pete Ciancia" who commented on FB page called the "South Jersey Campaign for Liberty | Facebook" https://tr-tr.facebook.com/SJC4L . I know there are probably thousands of people with that last name, but still, it's crazy.

2) Then I found a harmful website called ciancia.org that my antivirus software blocked me from opening (Don't know why). Seems like some italian social group in Atlanta GA area.

3) A NJ judge "James Ciancia" - referenced in an entry in a David Icke forum titled "New Jersey Case Law: Resisting Arrest Disorderly Persons Offense" at : http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71368 .

4) An Wall Street related guy "Lawrence Ciancia" reported for Insider Trading at CTS Corporation : http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/26058.htm

5) Then a weird find at this web address : http://www.joshuafost.com/blog/predictability-of-behavior/ (Predictability of behavior: Empirical and theoretical issues in the predictability of human behavior) which at the bottom has a footnote referencing an article called "Altered awareness of voluntary action after damage to the parietal cortex" and one of the coauthors is "S. Ciancia".

6) Also found a "Jim Ciancia" at http://www.textfiles.com/fidonet-on-the-internet/e1995/elist... that was referencing "U.S.A. patriotism and the activities of our government".

7) A "John Ciancia" at the EPA : http://nepis.epa.gov/Adobe/PDF/50000CRI.pdf

There IS no more of a hateful organization out there than the..

Southern Poverty Law Center.

Did anyone see how they SLAMMED Ron Paul and the liberty movement in 2008 and 2012?

They can go straight to hell in my opinion.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

intellectual brownshirts

How was it that the SPLC got a special scoop from inside sources as Mr. Potok claimed and the news unquestioningly accepts it at face value and didn't question the connection?

The SPLC has become the intellectual brownshirt arm of the Obama administration whose goal seems to be to demonize any group who opposes Obama policies. This becomes dangerous when SPLC propaganda is funneled to law enforcement agencies as fact.

Jefferson's picture


my "fault."
I didn't know the guy. Didn't see what happened. Wasn't there.
Interesting that he supposedly brought all his "literature" to the airport. That's real convenient. reminds me of that fireproof passport..Interesting flip flop on the alleged shooter story as well.
I'm afraid a line has just been drawn.

Some of us have seen the manufacturing of the "domestic threat" narrative, coming up the road.

This is not a time to sacrifice truth for political correctness..although civility is always the goal.
This is more serious on a different level.
"for those who have eyes to see" Someone mentioned "timing" below.
I feel like there's a storm on the horizon. More so than before. In fact I'll be shocked if we make it through the year without something serious happening.

Ron, I hope you were trying to be sarcastic and not lump a great group of people in with something "we" had NO part of. Seems like the headline should be about that hate mongering shit starting Potok.
Any decent person would be REPULSED by these alleged actions.

I'd MUCH rather be talking about fishing or something of interest, rather than having to concern myself with the absolute BIZARRO world conditions I see my country heading into.

Rest assured

Dripping with sarcasm. And utter disbelief at the spin.

Jefferson's picture


It was a dumb question I guess..
just checking...;)

this story just gets under my skin for some reason. Don't take it personally please. I'm not sure if you mean "spin" from the SPLC or the whole event (or me?)

It feels like the beginning of having a much more armed presence in airports, direct targeting of a large swath of people, and further expansion of the TSA and DHS. Didn't mean to shoot the messenger .

All of my disbelief is focused on the MSM

I guess I should expect the press to include whatever pertinent information that would help explain the attack, including the influences that justified (in his mind) taking up a weapon and shooting unarmed people.

But the writer didn't go to Lew Rockwell, Mises, or the Daily Paul to get an explanation of the writings the shooter supposedly had on him. Instead, they go to the SPLC and ultimately adopt the same loaded terms that the SPLC uses to describe the patriot movement.

I'm also discouraged that the shooter, if the reports are true, learned his lessons about the Constitution and the Fed, but he neglected the first rule of libertarianism: non-aggression. Shooting unarmed people, regardless of what uniform they wear, is a violation of the foundation of liberty.

Wow...the comments under the article are reassuring!

Most of the posts are varied but the majority seem to be up in arms about this. Lots of discussion about the 2nd Amendment, most of it positive. I even saw gold and SSRIs mentioned. I don't think the people are buying the snake oil anymore...

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." -Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

This fool had a kill list and carried it out

...who does that remind me of? O ya

Murder and suicide are NEVER an option to me so please don't include me in your "us" or "our"

Spineless murdering pussies who shoot unarmed people doing their job can go to hell where they belong. This asshole was acting EXACTLY like govts around the world, foolishly thinking violence and death are the answer to his "problems"- not like any of the "patriotic" I know

NBC/SPLC/usnews why don't you guys "report" on the suicide notes left by all OUR soldiers who are sadly ending their lives? Why don't you tell US what they have to say?

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And everything after Oklahoma City, too

according to the SPLC:

"Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma City"

The slaughter engineered by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, men steeped in the conspiracy theories and white-hot fury of the American radical right, marked the opening shot in a new kind of domestic political extremism - a revolutionary ideology whose practitioners do not hesitate to carry out attacks directed at entirely innocent victims, people selected essentially at random to make a political point.


Here are the stories of plots, conspiracies and racist rampages since 1995 - plots and violence waged against a democratic America.


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I'll own it, this demonization.

You can only push a "people" so far. We have learned from history that to remain silent is certain death.

We have been warning the ptb for years that they are governing in the wrong way. We have been pleading for an end to tyranny but our wishes fall on deaf ears. Instead, the ptb destroy our middle class by sending all of our jobs away, they tax us into socialistic communism, they explode their ranks with illegal voters, they dumb us down with psychotropic drugs, they grope and fondle our children and our grandmothers in the name of "security", and they invade the world killing innocents without impunity with an imperialistic, monolithic power that we, the people do not support.

Tyranny will not be tolerated. We have said this for years. Who is surprised by any of this? Who thinks this is over.

I only have one caveat to add to this post. There will come a time when psychotropic drugs will NOT play a role in what these extremist individuals do.

I truly believe the government pushes the people into these situations and will continue to push the people seeking a revolution they believe they will win (with the help of the lame street liars). The only question that remains is what will come first; the total collapse of America across the globe or her people rising up to stop it?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Not a word about the

Not a word about the possibility that the shooter
Paul Anthony CIAnCIA may have been on mass shooting medications.

(Ammoland.com) Nearly every mass shooting incident in the last twenty years, and multiple other instances of suicide and isolated shootings all share one thing in common, and its not the weapons used.
The overwhelming evidence points to the signal largest common factor in all of these incidents is the fact that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their crimes.
Multiple credible scientific studies going back more then a decade, as well as internal documents from certain pharmaceutical companies that suppressed the information show that SSRI drugs ( Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors ) have well known, but unreported side effects, including but not limited to suicide and other violent behavior. One need only Google relevant key words or phrases to see for themselves. www.ssristories.com is one popular site that has documented over 4500 " Mainstream Media " reported cases from around the World of aberrant or violent behavior by those taking these powerful drugs.
The following list of mass shooting perpetrators and the drugs they were taking or had been taking shortly before their horrific actions was compiled and published to Facebook by John Noveske, founder and owner of Noveske Rifleworks just days before he was mysteriously killed in a single car accident. Is there a link between Noveske's death and his "outting" of information numerous disparate parties would prefer to suppress, for a variety of reasons?
I leave that to the individual readers to decide. But there is most certainly a documented history of people who "knew too much" or were considered a "threat" dying under extraordinarily suspicious circumstances.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/039752_mass_shootings_psychiatric...

When the SPLC demonizes you...

You should wear it as a badge of honor, and you should be horrified if they ever say anything good about you. The organization was founded on the idea of pandering to tyranny and occasionally fleecing people who had legitimate civil rights complains/concerns. When the MSM sources these liberty-hating sycophants, it should be instructive as to where the MSM's priorities rest, and it is not with the truth.

P.S. - I just realized this article came from an NBC affiliate, so it's even more unsurprising.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

bigmikedude's picture

What else would anyone expect from the

Southern Poverty Political Propaganda Tool Law Center?

Ever notice their prompt timing on claiming specific hate groups or adding their assumption based, exaggerated character assassinations?

Everyone from pastors, to potato farmers are hate groups according to this screw flake nobody institution, yet the media uses their babbling drivel as if they are some expert panel.

The only hate group I see is the Southern Poverty Law Center itself. They hate everyone.

Bumped -

- because I do too.