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Is There An American That Knows What Their First Constitutional Right Is?

I refer to a right as something Americans have a right to use. There is a reason and purpose to these threads.

At the thread titled, "Can One American State The Purpose Of Free Speech?"

http://www.dailypaul.com/302112/can-one-american-state-the-p...

we learned that Americans not only do knot know the purpose of free speech, most cannot accept the logical root definition of its purpose. Or, maybe they do, but simply do not state that they accept the notion that the purpose of free speech is to assure information vital to survival is shared and understood.

Please clarify your position on the purpose of free speech here if you can accept that it is to assure survival. This is vital in the process of root usage of our first constitutional right which is the only strategy that can wield the authority to make the changes needed.

About 3 got close, some good points were made which were answered relating to the absolute need for free speech related to survival. There were a number of posters who were mostly unaccountable citing legal definitions of all sorts of the right. There was quite a bit of semantical confusion between; purpose, meaning, reason, right, ability and legal.

Generally a very low level of accountability, but, I do want to acknowledge a few posters that really saw into the exercise. Particularly Absolute Rights who saw the fundaments immediately and posted acknowledgement.

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/3228151

This is not rocket science. In fact, children need to be able to understand it.

I have a great deal of experience on forums with this subject matter and have asked the first question about the purpose of free speech, purposefully, because it is not our first right.

Now, what is our first constitutional right?

A clue, we need our second constitutional right, free speech, to properly use our first constitutional right. Is there an American that knows their first constitutional right?

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Here's my guess....

Your first Constitutional right is the right to establish a Constitution, Declaration, or other Articles!

The closest yet, and correct with regard to intent

The Declaration of Independence establishes that intent with the right to "alter or abolish"

The 1787 Constitution codifies that intent into Article V, our first Constitutional right.

There was a huge amount of competition for what would be included in each document. Some of those competing we're actually against the constitution but pretended as a group appealing to those with material power to divide the inherently joined rights. Eventually enabling the very situation we have now where the people do not know there first right, and do not know the purpose of their 2nd right, freedom of speech.

The prime purpose of our 2nd right is to be properly able to determine constitutional intent because Article V states " all amendments must have constitutional intent" and be "the masters".

Thanks for posting:-)

Can we stop doing all the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?

3 fundamental rights

Without exploring your links or previous posts, I will begin with the following observations. Re: the right to free speech, the fundamental difference between humans and animals is that man alone has the ability to speak. Man alone was formed in the image of his Creator, who created the universe through speech. That is why Genesis uses the terminology, "G-d said, 'Let there be light' ... " and so on. Speech has the power to create and destroy. Abracadabra. Speech is the primary link between man and his Creator. Second, the right to life is referred to in the Declaration of Independence, but also in the Bible. When Cain murdered Abel, G-d did not kill Cain immediately in response. Why? Because Abel was responsible, in part, for his own death. How? Because Abel did not defend himself against Cain. In other words, the Second Amendment was referred to in the Bible, in the very beginning. Self-defense is a basic human right and obligation. Third, there is one right implied in the Constitution which preceded the Bill of Rights, and that is the right to declare bankruptcy, which is the right of an individual to declare all debts against him null and void. That is why the Constitution requires that the laws of bankruptcy be uniform between the States.

Sorry Klaus, you have not identified your first constitutional

right. However, I do like your perspective and what you say is basically sound and consistent with constitutional intent.

Your first constitutional right which you can use, albeit, not alone, is a part of the 1787 constitution.

Can we stop doing all the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?

This Individual KNOWS

that he doesn't have ANY Constitutional Rights. This Individual KNOWS that no piece of paper can grant or deny inherent Rights.

This individual KNOWS that the above applies to all humans no matter their place of origin.

We guarantee each others rights and the paper is a record

of our leaders at the time dedicating all government to protection of the rights. We need to work together and restore constitutional government.

Your first constitutional right has the authority to do that.

Can we stop doing all the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?

Correct! NOBODY has "Constitutional rights!

our version of the "Rule of law" (otherwise known as the Constitution).

does NOT apply to the people or the states.

the question is a Non Sequitur, I wonder if the "chickenator" would like to chime in.

ya think? he IS a fancypants LAWYER you know...

Another American that does not know their first constitutional

right.

Your first constitutional right specifically applies to the states, and the people of the states have the right of democratic control over their state.

But you don't know what it is, so that doesn't matter much.

BTW, lawyers are not trusted. period.

Can we stop doing all the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?

interesting conjecture.

"Democratic Control" and "Democratic process"

I will agree that the intention was to disperse power, one way of doing this is from the bottom up.

I will suggest that it is not our lawyers that cannot be trusted, it is our universities instructing them.

it is my conjecture that sovereignty was divided 3 ways. and yes, I should have stated that it originates with the people at the state, (or even county level) if one "delegates" a portion of their power, the power is now divided.
I got called stupid for suggesting that this was but ONE of the Founders "checks and balances"

seems to me like someone forgot something....

INSCRIPTION UNDER THE DOME

"...I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." - Jefferson to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800

Yes, disperse power to the people.

Lincoln, 1859 "the people are the rightful masters of the congress and the courts"

The intent is very clear and it is fully constitutional.

Our 1st right needs freedom of speech for Lincoln's words to be true and democratic control by the people to manifest.

Great Jefferson quote BTW.

Can we stop doing all the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?