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Republican Rivalry Simmers As Paths And Styles Diverge (Rand Paul-Ted Cruz)

Published: November 1, 2013

DES MOINES — Senator Ted Cruz calls his colleague Rand Paul a “good friend.” The two men are the stars of the Tea Party movement, propelled to Washington by activist fervor and allied in their effort to restrain the reach of the federal government.

But when Mr. Cruz went to New York City to meet with donors this summer, he privately offered a different view of Mr. Paul: The Kentucky senator can never be elected president, he told them, because he can never fully detach himself from the strident libertarianism of his father, former Representative Ron Paul of Texas.

Word of Mr. Cruz’s remarks reached Mr. Paul’s inner circle, touching off anger and resentment.

And the incident further inflamed a rivalry that has been quietly building as the Republican Party tries to grapple with the force and power of its Tea Party wing. Both Mr. Cruz and Mr. Paul harbor presidential ambitions and view themselves as representing a new, more energized movement of Republican activists. But they are pursuing distinctly different paths as they try to rise, diverging not just in style but in their approach to intraparty politics.

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Having just read the article...

...I have to try to restrain my contempt for these evangelicals. Are you born again?!? Derp Derp Derp. Wild-eyed yankee hillbillies! Rolling around on the floor speaking in tongues! Your "true religion" is a degenerate heresy! ...What's funny is that the progressives that these illiterate monkeys are always yapping about ignorantly had the exact same crazed religious beliefs, it's what drove them to statism: got to stamp out sin using the power of the state.

They say: O, keep robbing me blind every April 15th, keep burying the country in debt, keep that creeping socialism running, and keep the NSA spying on everything I do, just don't shorten the sentences for non-violent drug crimes!!! ...F-king idiots.

Ooops, guess I failed to restrain my contempt for them.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

I just read the full article.....

And I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.....

"And while Mr. Paul first won office by taking on the anointed Senate candidate of Kentucky’s senior senator, Mitch McConnell, Mr. Paul is now helping Mr. McConnell’s re-election effort and joined him and other establishment Republicans at a lobbyist-filled fund-raising retreat for the National Republican Senatorial Committee last month in Sea Island, Ga."

Socialsm? Could this help us?


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Cross-thread spamming is a

Cross-thread spamming is a violation of this site owner's terms of use. Stop it.

So Paul won't brown-nose bankers?


Free includes debt-free!

"brown-nose bankers" ??

You can't possibly be that naive .

Ron Swanson


Paul seems quite a bit more electable and has managed his gaffes since first in office pretty well. I cannot say the same thing as Cruz tends to shoot from the hip with his exaggerations and thus gets in a lot of trouble over them. I would far rather prefer Paul as the chosen one. Of course we will probably wind up with another douche bag.

Cruz was born in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is not eligible for POTUS. Stop wasting time/thought/ energy on Cruz. You're being played by the establishment hand.

Mirand Sharma

Time to make that fact clear

Time to make that fact clear on Cruz's Facebook, Twitter and whatever other social media he's on.

Not only was Ted

born in Canada, his father was born in Matanzas, Cuba.



"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Ted Cruz is literally

married to the Federal Reserve Banking Cartel. How many Liberty minded voters are ready to vote that into the White House ??

Ron Swanson

This is a divisive tactic the establishment is trying to use.

They are trying to divide supporters of the Liberty Movement, and the tea party groups. Divide Cruz and conqure the Texas Senate seat.

Regardless of how you feel about Cruz or Paul, the establishment wants to take control of their seats. Before we give them up, let's take the rest of the 48 seats.

I think most people who

I think most people who support Cruz will support Paul also. What we need to do is raise enough money to out do Cruz in the primaries. But the real challenge will be in the general election when Paul will be toe to toe with Hitlary.

What say you DP? Are you up for it? Will you support Rand like you did his father? Will you Stand With Rand?

If you are waiting for someone else to emerge, it's far too late. The 2016 elections have already begun. And we've got work to do.

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They are already using it, imo

First Cruz & Paul must break into two camps. The winner will take the other's base.

I'm banking on Paul taking over Cruz.

Cruz is simply not electable enough for the the "Paultards" yet.

They don't care about Cruz as president.

They want his Senate seat. To do this they must make him unpopular with factions within his base of support. Remember this:

NY Times is trying to influence the opinion of the members of the LIBERTY MOVEMENT.

I am insulted. Since when did they think they influence us with their propaganda.

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If Cruz loses the support of Rand's base (liberty republicans)

then Cruz will be left only with the "tea party" crowd who are busy right now tripping over themselves to vote Christie in.

Cruz will lose in that secenario, imo.

When exactly

did Cruz have the support of Rand's base ?

Ron Swanson

The Tea Party is supporting

The Tea Party is supporting Krispy Kreme? That's news to me.

egapele's picture

Depends on what the definition of Tea Party is anymore

kinda vague these days.

Does the Tea Party support

Does the Tea Party support Christie? I thought he was too democrat for them.

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Not sure, but he is shredding it to pieces in NJ

Christie's "win at all costs, no matter what my policies do to this country" appears to be pretty popular. Scary:

"Chris Christie Is About to Win a Landslide, And He Wants Every Republican To Understand Why"

As Gov. Chris Christie (R) prepares to romp to a landslide re-election in New Jersey on Tuesday, he has a message for Republicans everywhere: There's no need to limit yourself to 53% if you stop despairing and follow my lead.

On Sunday evening, here's what Christie told Morris County voters, at a rally held by the New Jersey Outdoor Alliance:

We need to show the Republican party in America that we can win again. And guess where they're going to be watching on Tuesday night to see if we win: right here in New Jersey.

Christie was too polite to say this, but Republicans will actually be watching two states on Tuesday: New Jersey, where Christie will win a landslide, and Virginia, where Republican nominee Ken Cuccinelli will lose badly.

Unlike Christie, Cuccinelli is a favorite of conservatives who love ideological purity and hate compromise. You could hardly come up with a better test case for Christie's compromise-or-die message.


New Jersey is not

New Jersey is not middle-America. I can see no future where a New Yorker becomes president.

Christie is a favorite

Christie is a favorite because he bribed his people with government checks.

Only the establishment likes

Only the establishment likes Christie.

Southern Agrarian

That's what I thought. I also

That's what I thought. I also remember the dems saying the republicans needed to be more Christie. So I'm certain the TP does not support him.

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The term "tea party" doesn't mean the same anymore.

In most parts of the country, it has been co-opted by Americans for Prosperity.

Libertarian republicans (Rand) are splitting with "tea party" republicans (Cruz).

Conservative also means

Conservative also means raising the debt ceiling, invading foreign countries abroad, and corporate welfare.

Southern Agrarian

What is this...People

What is this...People Magazine? This headline right next to Kim Kardashion's drama of the week.

I told you guys Cruz is a

I told you guys Cruz is a Rat ! A back stabbing Rat put in there to defame Rand. I saw it early on. Especially not long ago when Cruz and Paul met at the Annual Young Americans for Liberty Conf. to speak .

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Agree 100%

The more I see Cruz the more convinced I become that he's a plant trying to lead the liberty movement astray. In 2016 they'll try to split the liberty vote (yet again), and Cruz is their instrument.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."