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Ron Paul To Virginians: 'insane' To Vote For 'libertarian' Robert Sarvis


On Monday, former Congressman and staunch libertarian Ron Paul (R-TX) campaigned for Virginia Republican Governor candidate Ken Cuccinelli and said Virginians would be giving up on liberty if they voted for Democrat Terry McAuliffe in Tuesday's election and would be "insane" if they voted for so-called libertarian Robert Sarvis, the third-party candidate who may siphon enough votes from Cuccinelli to spoil the election.


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A "mileage tax" is "insane," IF it is ADDITION TO a gasoline tax

Ron Paul himself would probably support such as tax if it were a REPLACEMENT for a gasoline tax. However, he is clearly taking a cheap shot at Sarvis, and it is unbecoming.

I proposed a "modified mileage tax) in a statement I titled "stupid taxes," I made at a town hall in the 1980s, and gained the attention of then-House Minority Leader (and later GOP gubernatorial candidate) Ellen Sauerbrey). At that time, virtually all of Maryland required vehicle emission inspections. I proposed replacing the state gasoline tax with a formula based on miles driven between inspections multiplied by total emissions multiplied by vehicle weight. In this manner, those driving the heaviest and most polluting vehicles would pay the most highway taxes. I also proposed the state make the mileage tax high enough to completely eliminate the ad valorum tax on motor vehicles, which is major discouragement for purchasing a new vehicle.

As for toll roads and bridges, I oppose them. They waste fuel and are safety hazards. Besides, everyone CAN use roads, if they choose to do so. However, I DO oppose using taxpayer's money to build sports arenas, even if they generate revenues, because they subsidize sports monopolies.


Nothing to do with the insanity argument given.

Correlation does not prove causality!

Don't think so.

A fixed per gallon tax is more efficient than a per mile use tax since the fixed per gallon rewards efficiency (fewer gallons / X miles used = less taxes), where as relative to the per gallon tax, the per mile "use" taxes taxes efficiency and inefficiency equally.

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This doesn't sound like something that the good doctor

would say.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

depends on what you mean by "this"

If "this" refers to abawabajingjing, then I agree.

Correlation does not prove causality!

misleading title from a misquote

article chops up the sentence to form their own argument. OP then uses the opportunity to say voting for sarvis is insane.

couldn't expect less than the internet and the new dailypaul.

I bet the way he used "insane" (if at all) in a sentence is never clearly defined and the blogosphere hides their heads in the sand like typical armchair critics always do.

im willing to bet if the original quote is found, then he called the tax insane, not the voters. which it is by the way. how else would you measure accurate transportation usage except by means of GPS tracking?


Mileage tax. Those who use the roads more, pay more.

Roads for the most part are payed for by gasoline taxes. So I thought. This represents a pretty basic, measurable "usage tax" which doesn't of itself invade privacy really. Why would government need a new tax for this? There's already "commercial fuel" under different tax laws for stationary and construction equipment. It's even colored different so you can tell.

The thing that sticks here is the privacy defense. What is our expectation of privacy on the roads? Further, driving on public roads is a choice and it's long held that you simply don't have to own one. The tax is therefore "voluntary".

The argument that one needs a car to compete economically in this society has been held EXTERIOR to law for what reasons? Before cars we used to tax (toll) foot traffic, horses and horse-drawn conveyances on different roads. We taxed the use of harbors and waterways. Private enterprises such as roads and river crossings were common as well.

Capitalism has an interesting relationship with roads. We assert the right to free travel but EVERYTHING IS OWNED thus requiring we have permission to do so. Land ownership has an effect of isolating you from the rest of the world which is great except for the fact that life requires that most of us interact with the outside world. Plus, rather than a more communitarian approach to conveyance like mass transit, we have chosen to favor the individually owned car. We have heavily invested in it. And even people who don't own cars pay for this in terms of increased danger of getting run over, increased noise and hideous amounts of pollution. These people HAVE NO CHOICE. They breathe it perhaps more than the drivers who create it. You drive 5 miles to work and are exposed to outside air for 10 minutes. You walk those 5 miles and you are exposed for an hour or so.

Tell me where privacy ends up as a priority then? And how conceptually a mileage tax has to mean invasion of privacy?

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

I think it's fair ....

... that you pay a tax on being you. Since you're constantly you, you should pay the tax all the time.

Correlation does not prove causality!

surprised by your comment

you act as if you can travel anonymously while somebody tracks your usage. please read up on this:


good comment, smudge

How do people think private roads would operate?

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus