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Cuccinelli Campaign Says National GOP Abandoned Them: 'We were on our own'


A campaign strategist for Republican Virginia gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli said that the national GOP abandoned the campaign in its final days.

I'm asking more questions than just how things might have been if they hadn't. There's a pattern in the national GOP and this fits that pattern. There is consistent confirmation of bipartisan support for corruption and a nation-crushing agenda that is hard to miss.


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There is consistent

There is consistent confirmation of bipartisan support for corruption and a nation-crushing agenda that is hard to miss.

We alone are our own WORST enemy!

I wrote this piece for another post last night, think its appropriate to re-post it here as well.

The Libertarian Party had no chance of winning last night, and yet they refused to honor Ron Paul request to support Cuccinelli, allowing the Socialists Democrats their win! This tells me exactly what the LP thinks of Ron Paul, ..right?

If we want our COUNTRY back, we had better get OUR ACT together and quickly, OR this will be the end result of each electable position available for 2014. Each with A NARROW LOSS, because we are so divided /splintered into too many "stubborn" conservative factions.

We alone are our own WORST enemy!

the LP does not deify anybody

The LP does not consider Ron Paul a god.

Whenever Ron Paul was running for the House of Representatives, the LP did not run their own candidate in his district.

However, they aren't going to back just anybody, simply on the basis of "Ron Paul says so"

Taking marching orders ...

Rejecting Ron Paul is not the least bit impressive when taking bribes from the DNC to help a mobster into political office.

Correlation does not prove causality!


that's completely false

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

What else would you call taking money from your political enemy?

The LP is so desperate in some states that they are willing to sacrifice principle with chosen candidates and donors to get a couple more percentages for future ballot access/ public funding.

Do you not see a problem with this?

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Thank you, U made my point!

To many; Ron Paul is a true constitutional conservative, with most like-minded folks willing to follow his lead, BUT obviously he's NOT "good enough" for the Libertarian Party.

This is your right to splinter, ..its your "faction" you may do with it as you please.

Maybe they should.

Maybe they should.

Ventura 2012


Ron Paul has accomplished vastly more since he joined the Republican Party than the Libertarian Party has accomplished since its foundation. They ought to take a page from the Ron Paul playbook. Better yet, dissolve themselves and join us in the GOP.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

The losing side always says

The losing side always says they had to go it alone without party support.

Buono is saying the same thing in NJ now.

Do you remember the days at RP NJ HQ?

Of course we didn't have GOP support for Ron Paul nor did we expect it. Even the GOP governor ordered our signs taken down.

But, what was worse, as far as we were concerned, is that we didn't have the support from Dr. Paul's official campaign! They did NOTHING to help us in NJ. Repeated requests were made for campaign literature for us to circulate around the State. We got NOTHING from them. We purchased what materials we could and RP supporters from other States, even as far away as Alaska, sent us their left overs!

So, yes. Going it alone, without the support of you own organization, happens a lot. I can believe Buono didn't get huge support from the NJ Dems. But she did get some support. She was a lame candidate in the first place and they knew it. But, I believe they selected her because the political machine needed Christie to win big. How else could they keep Rand Paul from getting the GOP nomination in 2016? Dirty tricks can be effective but, they gotta have their guy look great.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I know what you mean about

I know what you mean about Ron Paul in Democratic States. It's true, the campaign really didn't allocate much support to these areas, especially in the northeast. I didn't know it was so bad that you hd to buy flyers from Alaska, though!

But cucinelli wasn't running a primary, he was running in a very competitive race in an off-year. I just find it hard to believe that the GOP didn't have an interest in seeing Cucinelli win yesterday.

LOL... No, we didn't have to buy them from other States.

We bought as much as we could from the official campaign. RP supporters in other States donated and sent us their leftover campaign materials when their primaries were done. The ones from Alaska came from a DPer.

I gave you that whole previous comment about Buono vs. Christie because it's the same situation with Cucinelli. The only difference is that he was not a lame candidate, so everything had to be done to keep him from winning the election. It doesn't matter to the machine which party's candidate wins, as long as the machine's candidate wins. There is only one major political party in America. It just uses two different labels for the same machine brand.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

This was a Pyrrhic victory for the Establishment

This was a Pyrrhic victory for the Establishment

The Liberty / limited government folks received nearly 53% of the vote yesterday.

The Corporatists poured scores of millions in this race from outside the Commonwealth, again 10 to 1 TV ads alone in air time!

The Establishment knows how to read this election and is not happy and is scarred.

Remember we were fighting on multiple fronts, the GOP corporatists, the Dems criminal cartel machine and of course splitting our vote while sewing fear to weaken us.

What happened yesterday is only the beginning of the liberty youth movement it is taking control of the Republican Party of Virginia and the spirit of Patrick Henry is being reborn.

Freedom, Peace and Prosperity to you all :^)

Yes. Divide and conquer. The

Yes. Divide and conquer. The RP and LP outvoted the DP. And by RP I mean TP. While the DP is touting victory, what needs to be noted us that McFly or Obama Jr. Was not the peoples choice. Virginia actually rejected him but they were divided.

That is why we need strategy and money.

Just out of curiosity...were

Just out of curiosity...were electronic voting machines used?

Do you believe every time

Do you believe every time someone you don't like wins that it's because of vote manipulation? That's pathetic. Cuccinelli sucked. That's why he lost.

It is indeed pathetic to cry voter fraud...

... every time an election doesn't go our way: and always without a shred of evidence. I remember the "vote flipping" nonsense from 2012 (facepalm).

But Cuccinelli didn't suck. The liberty movement would be in a far better position today if he had won.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

with about 30% of precincts reporting,

cuccinelli was way ahead. then the vote flipping machines kicked in and there was a steady rise for that democrat scum bag. we've all seen the algorithms. the vote usually levels out after a small percentage of voting occurs. not with the vote flipping machines though.

that is why polling works. you can take a small sample and extrapolate to a larger population. the only time that doesn't work is when the vote flipping machines kick in.

no, it was Fairfax County, which is heavily blue

and has a huge portion of the VA population

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Votes from different precincts are reported at different times.

If you watched the results come in, the rural areas reported earlier than the urban areas: the heavily Democratic North-East corner of the State close to DC was among the last to report. So of course Cuccinelli's lead dropped as time went on. It's not a mystery.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

According to polling

According to polling Cuccinelli was behind to start with so that argument makes no sense.

polling can easily

be manipulated. what i'm saying is that honest polling can be accurate with a small sample. usually after a small threshold has been reached, a larger sample does not give more accuracy, but continues to show the same trend.

with 30% reporting, there is more than an ample sample to show how the trend would go. they used to be able to call elections with a small sample on the day of voting precisely because this holds true.

I believe that they quit calling elections based on early returns because the vote flipping machines now kick in after about 30% and things don't turn out they way the early trends point.

with about 30% reported yesterday, Cuccinelli was ahead 50 something % to 30 something %. after that the vote flipping machine kicked in and mccaulif started steadily gaining until, at the very end, he went ahead and "won" the election.

The count at 30% of precincts reporting....

...was not a representative sample. Those precincts were concentrated in rural Republican areas, because they happen to report quicker than the urban Democratic precincts. As the night went on, more and more of the Democratic precincts reported, so Cuccinelli's lead fell and eventually disappeared.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Weren't these the same

Weren't these the same excuses used when Bush won? I mean really. Come on.

That may be but because there

That may be but because there is a history of proven fraud with voting machines and the level of mistrust in elections is so high to start with...wouldn't it be simpler and more credible to reinstate (insist on)hard copy ballots?

"wouldn't it be simpler and

"wouldn't it be simpler and more credible to reinstate (insist on)hard copy ballots?"

I don't know. Would it? If electronic ballots have made such inroads, I might assume they are overall cheaper to maintain. Don't most things come down to cost?

But should they in the light

But should they in the light of vast wastage in other areas? Voting and elections should take priority especially if their integrity is under suspicion or attack.

Voting machines

We should bring illegalizing electronic voting to national attention.