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Fake Libertarian candidate spoils Virginia governors race

Fake Libertarian candidate spoils Virginia governors race
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/66163660246/fake-libertaria...

In a race that was closer than expected, Republican Virginia governor candidate Ken Cuccinelli (who was endorsed by Ron Paul) was defeated by socialist Democrat Terry McAuliffe by one point after fake Libertarian candidate Robert Sarvis managed to garner around 7% of the overall vote.

http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/66163660246/fake-libertaria...

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Someone needs to close this

Someone needs to close this thread. The liberaltarians are frothing at the mouth.

someone needs to deactivate

someone needs to deactivate your internet until you actually answer the question please show the debate where ken exposes sarvis and debates sarvis towin over voters.

Ron Paul 2016

Paul Alinsky

Rules for Campaign for Liberty Activists - by Paul Alinksy

1) If a Libertarian Party candidate says something that even sounds like an endorsement or expansion of a government program, or even replacing one program with another, when taken out of context or quoted in sentence fragments, tell everyone they are not a real libertarian.

When Rand Paul does it call it working within the system and winning.

Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor

Www.DCLibertarians2014.blogspot.com

You're failing to follow the

You're failing to follow the rules for the forum.

Rule # 7 No Assholes

Nobody gives a sht about

Nobody gives a sht about your little debate. That's not even the point.

im a republican so you are

im a republican so you are foollish i see unknowuser. you are just a gop robot shill who will not answer the question show me the debates where ken is debating and trying to win the sarvis voters by showing he is more libertarian then sarvis, i am waiting for the links. exactly. you are full of crap unknownuser.

Ron Paul 2016

You've got a little on your

You've got a little on your chin.

So what you're saying is...

... given the fact the race was so close, if Cooch had been a free market, small government conservative then he'd have won the election.

Exactly.

Instead, the signature plank of his campaign was instituting a law that would make oral sex a felony. The fact that he got as many votes as he did is a testament to how odious his opponent McAuliffe was to many Virginians. If Cuccinelli was a genuine conservative and not a fundamentalist crackpot, he'd have easily won the election.

Virginians should be furious that the fundies who vote in the Republican primaries are picking unelectable kooks.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

For the last 48 hours...

For the last 48 hours, Sarvis activists have been claiming that Cuccinelli had a statist social agenda.

Please educate us...LIST THEM.
Cuccinelli never claimed to be a Libertarian, he was a GOP candidate, who was not particularly supported by GOP Central.

Much the same as Ron Paul...yeah...remember?
So....LIST his "statist agenda".

We are all aware of WHO backed Sarvis financially.
And consider...a Ron Paul Republican...or a LINO would have been better in the coming years ahead?

So let's see "The List".

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

maybe you shouldof got the

maybe you shouldof got the wimp ken to debate sarvis to prove he was mnore libertarian then sarvis, but ken wouldn't and marginalized him.

ken was a fake republican who lost on his own merits.

ken was the one that woudln't debate sarvis. so you and the ken camp are basically FULL OF SH*T.

Ron Paul 2016

Sorry for You, but...

...That's:
"Should HAVE"..
or
"Should've"....which kinda sounds like "should OF".... OK?
NOW:
Grammar lesson is finished...So....
WHERE IS THE LIST?
I Requested "A LIST".....not LINO-Tactics, ad-hominem attacks or name-calling...WHERE is YOUR LIST????????

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Sophistry

at it's finest! Bravo!

Label Jars, Not People!

All This Bickering Obfuscates A Bigger Issue

We need instant runoff voting. It could even be handled on a single election day, where one indicates one's first and second choices. Or it could be handled via a second election when no candidate receives more than 50% on the first election.

Some system of proportional representation would be a plus as well.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

For the last 48 hours,

For the last 48 hours, Cuccinelli apologists have been claiming that Cuccinelli was, despite his statist social agenda, more libertarian than Sarvis.

Guess what, Cuccinelli? You had the opportunity to actually prove that. Not by having your staff make outlandish claims on this facebook page. BY DEBATING ROB SARVIS, WHEN HE REPEATEDLY INVITED YOU TO.

Or, at least, by not childishly refusing to debate Sarvis....

That’s the thing about Libertarian votes. You actually have to earn them.

As future advice for the RNC and DNC: if you want to prove that your candidate is “more libertarian” than the Libertarian candidate, consider actually debating the Libertarian to prove it.

Ron Paul 2016

How did Sarvis earn the libertarian vote?

By having an (L) next to his name?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

The VA LP nominated him. Just

The VA LP nominated him. Just face it, the lp candidate was a progressive small l libertarian, and the gop candidate was your clasic bigot republican. I think that Savis stole more democrat votes than from that bigoted Nazi party.

he actually got the lp vote

he actually got the lp vote because ken was a wimp and cried like a baby when asked to debate. bottom line ken could of proven he was more libertarian by debating instead of refusing debate, funny before election ken/ken camp
said he was a non factor after the election the ken whiners were screaming he was the factor. comical.

the republican party failed to get the lp vote and the gop is to blame not the lp.

Ron Paul 2016

Ladies and Gentlemen....

...WELCOME!

...to the DAILY SARVIS.

Let the downvotes commence!
(You guys are fuuunnnny!)

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

upvoted the daily sarvis, but

upvoted the daily sarvis, but lately we could call it the daily fake republicans.

Ron Paul 2016

NEWSFLASH to LP "Lurkers"

The FAKE "Libertarian-in-Name-Only" or LINO, aka Sarvis
IS NOT
WILL NEVER BE
DOESN'T COME CLOSE
....................to being Gary Johnson.

The ONLY THING that surprises me?

That ROGER STONE wasn't his campaign manager.

..but I guess he didn't need that...he was backed by one of BHO's money guys.
GOOD LUCK...after shooting yourselves in the foot for an IMAGINARY 10% Vote Statistic...and cutting your noses off to spite your faces, you have screwed Virginians worse than you care to admit.

YEAH...he was a LINO.....Enough already!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

what surprises me is the

what surprises me is the daily ken whiners who could of won the lp vote if they had debated sarvis and tried to win that vote instead of trying to marginalize and act like it wasn't a factor. They could of debated sarvis and shown the voters ken was more libertarian then sarvis but the ken camp and ken decided not to and it cost them the election, ken ran away from debating sarvis and it cost the republicans the election. The only ones to blame are the gop and the republicans who decided to ignore sarvis and voters.

Ron Paul 2016

IF

If we wanted to hurt the Republican in Virginia, we would have supported a right-wing candidate who sounded like a Tea Partier — who only talked about cutting welfare, Obamacare, and how bad Democrats are. we would never have helped someone like Robert Sarvis, who talked a lot about social issues that appeal to liberal voters. As it turned out, polls show that if Sarvis weren't in the race, McAuliffe would probably have won by a slightly bigger margin.

Label Jars, Not People!

And Exactly HOW...

...Did you "help" Sarvis?
He certainly did NOT attain "prime-time-candidate-status".
He certainly did NOT get the 10% vote
Oh... I see now.
You helped him be a "spoiler"....
So...mission accomplished...
Give yourselves a big pat on the back.
Keep repeating...I Did NOT screw my fellow Virginians.
...I did NOT blow it!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

if ken wanted to win he

if ken wanted to win he should of debated sarvis and showed voters he was more libertarian. ken did the opposite, he ran and avoided debate with sarvis. ken lost it all on his own by not showing the lp vote he was worthy. ken is where the blame lays. or you can blame me kenny. he didn't debate because ken is full of crap and couldn't win the debates using the failed gop platform.

Ron Paul 2016

NEWSFLASH:

There are 5,240,438 registered voters in VA. 2,138,613 people voted in the race.

with the all out attack against Sarvis by the Republicans over the past several days, the GOP got some of the people that would have voted for Sarvis back.

BUT YOU attack an easy target, refuse to blame your party for scaring off 60% of the voters and choose to sit behind your computer slinging unfounded accusations against voter's who voted.

Tell me, if your guy was soooooooooo much bettr and his positions made sooooooo much sense, then why was he AFRAID TO DEBATE HIM?

GOP & DEM 2 party monopoly because you want to censor other's from the general population!

I'd like to see your guy get as much support and work as hard as Sarvis and his supports have! you take for granted your major party status.

Bravo!

Label Jars, Not People!

you already know the answer.

you already know the answer. ken couldn't debate sarvis without exposing the failed gop platform.

Ron Paul 2016

Exit polls say otherwise

Sarvis fires back: "It's easy

Sarvis fires back:

"It's easy for people outside Virginia, like Ron Paul, to not realize how illiberal and unlibertarian Cuccinelli is"

...

"[Ron Paul] was basically spoon-fed the GOP misinformation campaign"

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/07/sarvis-says-h...

To LP/Reason types

The core of libertarianism is about open borders, gay marriage and abortion.

But as you know, the actual

But as you know, the actual core of Libertarianism is the individual and support for the Constitution.