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Fake Libertarian candidate spoils Virginia governors race

Fake Libertarian candidate spoils Virginia governors race
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/66163660246/fake-libertaria...

In a race that was closer than expected, Republican Virginia governor candidate Ken Cuccinelli (who was endorsed by Ron Paul) was defeated by socialist Democrat Terry McAuliffe by one point after fake Libertarian candidate Robert Sarvis managed to garner around 7% of the overall vote.

http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/66163660246/fake-libertaria...



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Actually it was closer to

Actually it was closer to $20,000 but it was his largest donor and that should speak words my friend.

No

$11,000 according to the establishment republicans

$20,000 is what Sarvis contributed himself to his campaign

The amount is not important.

What's important is that a big Obama supporter donated ANY money to a Libertarian - why would he do that?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

If it was meant to drain

If it was meant to drain Republican votes, it backfired. Evidence shows McAuliffe lost votes, not the other guy.

Dunno

Why dont you go ask him instead of acting like Sarvis is some kind of anti-christ?

A real liberal would support Sarvis because McAuliffe a crony businessman

Nobody said he was the

Nobody said he was the antichrist. But he was used as a tool and so were his voters. Come on...be sharp.

wow

Nobody voted for Sarvis because they thought he was going to win. Everyone voted for Sarvis out of pure disgust and indifference to the republican and democrat candidates. They both might end up in jail a year from now - that is how bad they were.

And that was a stupid thing

And that was a stupid thing to do in Virginia when there was a logical candidate to vote for. And guess what...you even had Ron Paul himself ensuring you that he would be a good choice. But noooo...I guess Ron Paul isn't good enough for you libertarians is he now? Why are you guys even here...on the Daily Paul? The LP basically gave Ron Paul and all us Ron Paul republicans a big middle finger. Do you think anyone will blink An eye at your silly little 2% protest vote for the LP in 2016?

We Libertarians been with Ron Paul since the begining!

We did not give the finger to Ron in 07 Bob Barr did a Republican. In 07 we were the R3volution

We did not screw his 2012 election. A lot of us changed parties to help him win in primary

We did not screw his delegates His son and the gop did

The GOP and his son F U C K ED him not us Libertarians so get your facts right
We been with the R3volution that started 30 years ago!

Now was sarvis libertarian? Yes on the social issues not the economic issues. He was a poor libertarian candidate but that was what va lp had. The ones that bi tched about sarvis who live in va run on the lp ticket?

But you're not with him now?

But you're not with him now? Why? Because he lost the election?

There is not going to be a 3rd party revolution anytime soon. We need to win some elections first and that takes strategy.

See comment.

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/3257143

Liberaltarians are no doubt

Liberaltarians are without a doubt to blame for this tragedy. The freaking house is burning down and these losers show up at the polls to save the french fries. Unbelievable....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

More likely,

It's the teahadist party, at least according to the comments on DEM LIB CNN. Libertarians are unknown to the average EBT welfare collectors who drive ancient cars with multiple donut spares while sporting an obama sticker.

Label Jars, Not People!

You're probably right.

You're probably right. Cuccinelli's anti-abortion and anti-gay stance couldn't possibly have anything to do with his loss.

Isn't a "liberaltarian" a libertarian who...

...cares more about social issues than anything else? So then, you're both right: Cuccinelli lost because of his social views; or, more precisely, Cuccinelli lost because liberaltarians refused to vote for him because of his social views. Ken was dumb for expressing those views, liberaltarians were dumb for not having the sense to vote for him anyway. I blame all of you. You're all morons.

*equal opportunity hater*

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Liberaltarian. I hate

Liberaltarian.

I hate liberaltarians almost as much as I hate Obamas commies.

Then prepare to lose for the

Then prepare to lose for the rest of your voting life.

I don't have to like them to

I don't have to like them to work with them but your " it's our way or the highway" crap isn't going to fly. This country is burning to the ground and we've got bigger fish to fry then to deal with your social issues.

Peace.

There, there. Have another

There, there. Have another milkshake.

Wrong

"Liberaltarians are without a doubt to blame for this tragedy."

Why do you have such confidence? Do you have a shred of evidence?

Fox News says, " In fact, Sarvis drew from independents and moderates, and took at least as many votes from the Democrat as the Republican."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/06/mcauliffe-wins-vi...

Other exit polling confirms:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/05/cnn-exit-pol...
http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/virgi...

Pre-election polls confirm:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/...

START A MONEY BOMB! DEFEAT HIM IN THE POST-ELECTION!

Friends, we must rally all of our forces to defeat this man who was just defeated. Just to make double sure he doesn't sneak up and take over while nobody is looking. We must moneybomb, sign wave and spread the word that IT'S A GOOD THING THIS GUY LOST. And we should organize and demonstrate every night and day to make sure he stays lost. Or something.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Believe what you want but the

Believe what you want but the truth is that exit poll data suggests that most of the Sarvis vote would have gone to McAuliffe, not Cuccinelli, had it been a two man race.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/05/cnn-exit-pol...

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

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Bwaaahahaha!!!!! A CNN exit poll? Gimme a break!

Revealed: Obama Campaign Bundler Helping Fund Libertarian in Tight Va. Gubernatorial Race
Nov. 5, 2013 8:43am Meredith Jessup

A major Democratic Party benefactor and Obama campaign bundler helped pay for professional petition circulators responsible for getting Virginia Libertarian gubernatorial candidate Robert C. Sarvis on the ballot - a move that could split conservative votes in a tight race.

Campaign finance records show the Libertarian Booster PAC has made the largest independent contribution to Sarvis' campaign, helping to pay for professional petition circulators who collected signatures necessary to get Sarvis' name on Tuesday’s statewide ballot.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/revealed-obama-ca...

Uh huh

Perhaps Fox News is more up your alley

Fox News: " In fact, Sarvis drew from independents and moderates, and took at least as many votes from the Democrat as the Republican."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/06/mcauliffe-wins-vi...

Ignore reality if you want

Ignore reality if you want but the facts are the facts.

Cuccinelli was perceived - especially by younger liberty oriented voters - as a theocrat, and most of these voters who ended up voting for Sarvis would not have voted for Cuccinelli even if Sarvis were not in the race.

Cuccinelli apparently would have lost worse had Sarvis not been in the race.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

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So the liberty oriented voters did the very thing

that would bring sure defeat to the most liberty oriented candidate?

That's ridiculous.

Did you even bother to look

Did you even bother to look at the poll or are you just going to stick your fingers in your ears and scream instead of facing the truth?

To some Sarvis voters, who were mostly young voters, McAuliffe would have been preferable to Cuccinelli. That's what the polls show.

One reason that I can think of why that would be the case is because Cuccinelli was successfully painted by the McAuliffe team as a theocrat, and some of the social issues where Cuccinelli took stern stands, such as abortion and gay marriage, are important issues to young voters (and they're generally on the other side of these issues than Cooch).

I know some of these young VA libertarians (I'm not one myself, I'm in my late 50's) and I can attest to the fact that these are the reasons why they voted Sarvis or didn't vote at all rather than for Cooch. Yes this is just a small sample size, but the polling data suggests that the Sarvis kids would not have voted for Cooch over McAuliffe.

If you don't like my theory, what's yours?

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

BREAKING NEWS: Small cadre

BREAKING NEWS: Small cadre of neo-con trolls launch all out assault on Libertarians on the Daily Paul.

to be fair, they are not neocons

They are socons who pretend that social issues do not matter to them.

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

A fair point I concede to

A fair point I concede to you, Ed.

Who is pretending?

they clearly matter to you, Ron Paul is a social conservative.

non of us on this thread are identical.