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I hate Porn

Pornography is a problem.

Porn is like a narcotic, it hijacks the brain, it redefines human sexuality, and in the meantime ruins lives, destroys families, and destabilizes ministries. And honestly it’s a problem that makes me tired — tired of the devastation Satan is causing to children, women, families, pastors, churches, and the world with this tragic evil.

Porn became a problem for me when I was only six, and by the grace of God that problem ended when Jesus saved me at age seventeen. But I know it rarely happens so cleanly. It is still a temptation, yes; temptation abounds living in the city I do, and with the heart I have, but grace abounds all the more in Jesus Christ.

Friends, I hate porn. And here’s why.

Keep reading @ http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/i-hate-porn

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Oh, you're getting downvoted too. How dare you say someone's

body is not a public toilet? What are you, some kind of antiquated prude??? ;)

There are a lot of wicked people on the DP apparently.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

In the US...

In the US, you currently have the freedom to CHOOSE if you want your body to be a public toilet. She willingly (this is what the initial comment indicated) chose to allow her body to be a public toilet. As long as she was not coerced, blackmailed, forced at gun point, etc., to fornicate with 1000 men (are the men victims, too?) on stage, she exercised free will. She owns her decision. We all make some good decisions and some bad. I'm not judging her for her decision.

“Sink, swim, go down with the ship; but use your freedom of choice.” Devo

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

By that argument...

The corporation I work for "sells" me because they showcase my skills for others to pay for. I do it willingly. If I don't like my job, I can leave. My guess is that was true for Greenwald's paid performers.

Regarding the woman who willlingly fornicated with 1000 men, I didn't know about this, but I'm not surprised. You did stress that she did this willingly, so if she destroyed herself, well she did so exercising free will...she was not a victim. The guys that perform idiotic stunts on jackass hurt themsevles in very painful ways, but like the 1000-dude-chick, they do so willingly, so I don't feel any sympathy for them when they destroy themselves.

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

True, your corporation pays you for your skills.

When you are no longer useful to them, or them to you, you and your skills will go elsewhere...
but where do you think the terms presstitutes and media whores come from?

Both terms derive from the

Both terms derive from the term prostitute and both refer to individuals that lack integrity.

But, help me out, I'm honestly not sure of the relevance of that question to our discussion.

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

The reference was

you being "sold" by your company.
I "spose prostitution is a job that lacks integrity, because instead of being an act of love and trust, it becomes just a service, and transaction.

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Bear with me, but...

I am much more concerned (and pissed off) by the large scale brainwashing that has been happening in public schools, and funded by your taxes and mine, for decades, starting way before porn goes "mainstream".

Figure-wise, I suspect we're talking about a few hundreds millions (maybe) of adults having an addiction problem with porn, free to tackle it or not, vs. BILLIONS of captive, innocent kid brains engineered by the state, debasing their individuality AND the role of their family cells, all over the place.

Hint keyword: causality.

"To a thousand striking at the branches of evil, there is one striking at the root." (Thoreau)

YMMV.

Peace.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Yes I am more concerned with the Large Scale Brainwashing...

which is more difficult to escape because poor people have no other options for education.

If porn was mandatory I would be right there with the Christians opposing it. But when it is a choice, I don't see the harm.

But the captive brainwashing of our kids in the public schools is a high crime indeed.

Deep down everyone is Libertarian.
Live and Let Live, form of government.

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Yes.

Yes.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I love this article...

If you isolate yourself in a room and indulge in pornography, you are not sick; you are evil. You are having intercourse with a computer, or with the pages of a publication. In effect you are having an erotic experience with the editor—probably another man. While you are fantasizing with that commercially produced image, know that there are thousands of others engaged in eroticism with the same image, at the same time as you. You are part of a disgusting group of perverts, all piled onto the same image together. And somewhere there is a sexually dysfunctional editor enjoying the extent of his erotic powers.

The drive for a wife is a natural drive, whereas the drive for pornography is a cultivated, perverted passion that has nothing to do with love and marriage. If a pornographer were to marry a porno queen, he would quickly become dissatisfied with her and crawl back in his little hole, alone with his imaginations and the images created by an industry that makes its money not by satisfying its customers, but by keeping them dissatisfied and hungry for the artificial. Your secret world is revolting to real men who know how to love one woman and dedicate the rest of their energies to creative living.

Taken from Pornography Road to Hell...
http://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/pornography-road-to-hell/

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Uh-oh, I can tell I've touched a nerve--8 downvotes so far!

Don't attack porn around here, it's apparently a pet sin.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Ok, but this is a website for Liberty.

Our crusade is that of peace, our liberty, and our Constitution.
So maybe you want to go to one of those glenn beck, social conservative, or neo-con sites.

Porn is simply a masturbation aid for some...

and for others it destroys lives. Much like pot. Some people handle it well and some people don't. To say it is evil is to paint a pretty wide brush.

Porn is as natural as masturbation. If we didn't have pictures of porn we would make cave drawings of porn to help in masturbation.

With all due respect to Christians here. I do believe that religious views tend to paint a wide brush over complex subjects.

No one would advocate for porn if it inhibits the freedom of anyone. Porn use or non use is different for every individual.

I have friends that have had their lives ruined by video games.

So Yes you have the right to post that here but I disagree that porn is evil or bad across the board.

Yet I appreciate that you have a problem with it and your story may help others that feel similarly.

My story would probably be about playing Chess. I was so obsessed with Chess in the past that nothing else mattered. Lucky for me I was able to keep it under control and I can now focus on my life, friends, and business.

Deep down everyone is Libertarian.
Live and Let Live, form of government.

If I remember correctly, the OP did not say he wants the gov't

to ban porn. He said he hates porn. He should have the liberty to speak his mind on the subject and try to convince others using logic and reason. This is the libertarian position. I don't think porn promotes peace for sure.

So maybe you want to go to one of those anti-God, sin-loving, Christian- hating websites.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I don't see anyone saying he was saying anything like that

I agree that everyone has views but I do find it odd that Christians use the word HATE so damn much. Did you read his full article? I saw the word HATE versus anything else on the entire page.

He also wrote that we are all going to hell due to it. That is a pretty specific to others statement versus oneself or his own life.

"I hate porn because it is a diabolical, satanic activity that is subtly leading thousands upon thousands to hell."

Jacking off is now SATANIC? Or is it only when your "christian wife" isn't participating? Is it just the porn or is it the thoughts in ones mind when they are doing that satanic, hell bringing evil act?

I mean seriously

Honey I need you to come in the room for me so I don't commit a satanic act due to my potential thoughts while you are out of the room else I will go to hell.

Pretty wild if you ask me but it is exactly how most religious folks I have spoken with are and act. Focus on what everyone else is doing EVIL versus dealing with your own demons.

But no he didn't ask that the government bans porn but I am pretty sure IF a bill came his way he would do "gods will" and vote for the ban but hey that's just my opinion of course.

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I think porn leads people to hell the way every diversion does--

by keeping their minds occupied so that they will never ask the truly deep questions of life like, "where am I going when I die?" They are too busy amusing themselves to look for the truth about life's purpose and their eternal destiny.

And remember, just because something has been practiced for ages doesn't mean it isn't sinful.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

If you think that you going to find Jesus.

On a political site then I dont know what to tell you. By your thinking this site is as bad as porn. If I wanted to know where I am going when I die I would not be on the daily paul. I so sick of christians that make the true ones look bad. GOD GAVE US LIBERTY!!!! Stop being the moral police. Live by example.

Someone posted this recently

Wendy McElroy on porn:


http://youtu.be/JbMbRVy41Y0

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

And I'm sure those pornographers told the truth. Kinda like

asking a slave owner if his slaves feel degraded, etc.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

i dont see how that makes

i dont see how that makes sense at all.. the pornstars would be the slaves in your example not the slave owners. Ex pornstars have nothing to lose by telling a journalist how they were treated or how they got into the business.

McElroy said she went to pornographers and asked them how

women were treated, blah blah blah.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I half way agree...

I half way agree with you, I hate bad porn.

RickStone

Our creator in order to

Our creator in order to perpetuate the species made the desire for reproduction very strong.

was that a good thing? just keep it in control.

COOL STORY BRO

How does porn inflict on your civil liberties? Oh it doesn't? Moving on..

It might not inflict on his civil liberties,

but what about the civil liberties of the babies and children who are molested and raped for adult "entertainment"? The young girls who are conned into a life of sexual slavery, the women, men and boys who are pimped out to be bought and sold and used like a tissue, you know, snotted into and then discarded?
Are they and their families not entitled to civil liberties?

I think it is really hard for some people to . . .

acknowledge that there are evil people in the world--

the children stolen for these purposes (or sold for them) are a burden on my heart--

where do *we* begin to rescue them?

How?

The bottom line is that in p@rn as in so many other things it appears that evil is winning--

we can't believe that or we lose heart, but . . .

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Babies and Children who are

Babies and Children who are molested and raped for adult "entertainment"? I'm pretty sure they have to wait until they're 18 or it's illegal. And if you're talking about child porn, that's a completely different topic. Of course that's sick, and illegal and inflicts on a persons civil liberties...

HOWEVER

This guy has a problem with legal porn. A person has the right to do with what they want with their own body. Is it the right decision? Probably not, but what classifies porn? A model posing nude for a photoshoot or a smut film?

If you don't like it, turn it off, don't watch it and if there's something you can do politically go for it, no ones stopping you (or voting for you for that matter)

There's bigger fish to fry.

Conned?

If participation is voluntary, nobody was conned.

Men and boys subjected to selective service and the draft...not voluntary, and is a form of slavery. Willingly signing a contract to get paid to have sex for other people's viewing pleasures...that is exercising free will.

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

Are you talking about legal porn or...

illegal porn. With legal porn you have consent of the performers and the audience. I would say that kind of porn has nothing to do with all the illegal stuff you just mentioned.

Deep down everyone is Libertarian.
Live and Let Live, form of government.

Consent???

Then why do prostitutes have pimps?
Not every hooker is a happy hooker, not every stripper an "erotic artist".
Ever seen those poor little bar girls in Thailand? Sold off by their dirt poor families, watched like hawks by their pimps and sold off to 20 30 men per shift.
It might be legal, but that doesn't make it right.
Answer me this. Your daughter (or son) bounces into the room and announces that she is now working as a pole dancing stripper, and doing abit of whoring on the side.
Would you be thrilled at her/his new career?