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Is America Being Deliberately Pushed Toward Civil War?

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One Can Hope

...if that's the only way to straighten this mess out.

Not Civil war. Civil

Not Civil war. Civil Insurrection against government employees.

Anything is possible with enough poverty

When you can't feed your kids and your money is no good, you will get violent. As long as you have Satellite TV with 250 channels and a 30,000 automobile with assisted parking, you will be as passive as a lamb.

Don't expect much action until your average middle class guy or gal who has worked their entire life is really really hurting. As long as the young peeps can hang in mom and pops basement, they are set. As long as the "poor" have working food stamp debit cards and Obama phones, they are set. As long as Granny and Paw Paw have SS and medicare, they are set. ... But when the guy who is paying for it all starts to lose his grip, then the whole freaking thing will start tumbling down. When the cable is gone, because its just too expensive to pay again this month, and the house is hot as hell because he can't run the AC anymore, or his kid is complaining because he is hungry again. That, my good friends is when everything changes.

At that point, the food stamp debit cards start getting rejected at Walmart and the "oppressed" head out to the better neighborhoods for food and booze, then you will start to hear the crackle of gunfire in the middle of the night. That's when the neighborhood watch guys will start carrying AR15's and 911 goes unanswered half the time.

Maybe at some point a responsible state government shows Washington the middle finger and says, "Our people don't have to send you their hard earned money anymore!" And maybe when their state troopers are facing down a platoon of marines on some interstate somewhere, some three star General somewhere will remember who he is and what he swore an oath to.. then stuff will happen.

When all this happens, your gonna have to be a revolutionary just to save your own ass and feed your family. Until then, just keep flipping that remote.

good analogy.

that is pretty much how I see it going down.


In the meantime.....my AR15s and AKs are at the ready for any such evil that seeks me. But I'd much rather live in Peace and Liberty.

just keep updatin' the list

of culpable banksters and their sycophantic turds, behind all this, for when preparations for Nuremberg 2.0 comes to town...

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul


But people aren't that stupid, especially not when simply providing and spreading information (completely non-violent act) is doing more damage to "their" failing illusion of power than any aggressive act against them. They want people to fight Fire with Fire like they've relied on for centuries.

Only those ignorant of the past repeat it. Sorry [d]elites, have you heard of INTERNET?

Let's laugh in their faces and "Kill them with Kindness".

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Yes, yes and no.

The up coming "civil" war will be different, not father against son, brother against brother.
I believe that the US is being herded into massive civil unrest... both Left and Right are "attacking and exposing" the Government, the rich are getting (dishonestly) richer, and the poor are getting (desperately)poorer. History teaches us that these are the ideal conditions for communism, the poor feel resentfulness towards the Fat Cats and want a share.This usually triggers rallies and public demonstrations, which then turn into riots because of payed agitators. Communist are very clever at supplying a smooth tongued "Leader" that talks the language of the disenfranchised.
This time, when all hell brakes loose, martial law and UN International Soldiers will be your biggest threat.
Drone warfare will change the face of crowd control, and the morally bankrupt operators don't even have to be American.


And the fattest Fat Cats--who always fund Communism--will get fatter still... plus the population control they so desire.

What would the Founders do?

We're pretty far from a civil

We're pretty far from a civil war. I think that would require the existence of two, really large factions that's dividing families and friendships and causing large protests and violence.

The factions we have today are nuanced, sub-factions. Obamacare, while certainly the most politically significant thing in a while, still hasn't created the kind of "with us or against us" culture needs to produce civil war.

Plus, we just don't have a sharp geographic divide save the increasing and evolving urban vs suburban vs rural... And even that isn't always a huge contrast.

In my opinion, an unfavorable ruling in

this case would would just about do it :


And NO I'm not endorsing heritage with this link.

Ron Swanson

Very thought-provoking article

To be fair, it contains a lot of speculation about the motivation of various people and institutions, and how can anyone really know that? For instance, those on the left are indeed clinging to Obamacare at the expense of all else, but the entire left paradigm depends on the idea that the state can afford these programs because debt doesn't matter. Throw in some out-of-control hyperinflation and IMHO they'll abandon that devotion pretty quickly.

Still, it does lay out a very plausible "what if" scenario. Worth reading!

Call Guiness!!!! I agree with Granger!!!!

Holy Schneikies!!! I'm in agreement with Granger's post below...I too believe that Obamacare or Romneycare...whatever it is...was never meant to work. I believe it is a read herring meant to get the sheople bickering over crap that doesn't matter, while the REAL AGENDA continues unnoticed.
Good job girl! I'm very happy to see you've got your tinfoil thinking cap on today...welcome to our little club! LOL ...Proud of you, Granger.

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Bill maher

In his Marxist piece of crap show came right out and said that is the ultimate goal (single payer total government run)

No, but the Nwo loves it when someone

suggests that is what is happening.

Can we stop doing all the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?

still reading

And the saddest thing of all? It is likely that Obamacare was never meant to be successful in the first place.

I think your intuition is

I think your intuition is correct on that score. It's all about Federal hegemony, and the Marxist agenda of eliminating national bourders that began with the adoption of the 14th amendment and the Reconstruction government.

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I think what you described is

The UN Agenda 21 that has been taking us into global government like Chinese water torture, drip by drip, left by right, right by left, we march, hour by hour, day by day, year by year, election by eletion, town by town, state by state, false flag by flase flag, collapse by rumor of collapse, they break US to remake US, the NAU.

There are certainly many

There are certainly many "playing fields" in this game. The trick, it seems to me, has always been to eliminate the all but the globalists field, the one that only the chosen elite get to play on. But we can do something about that by truly knowing the law that our nations used to form the Union and take them back.

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I'm thinking

In our lifetime, the match was between Rockefeller's UN central banking for globalization of industrial corporations VS Rothchild's crown and church banking for institutions that still have power, but then they merged a couple of years ago and so globalization is happening very rapidly now.

They play and feed off each other and we are all slaves or servants to one system or the other, whether we know it and are active, or useful idiots, or don't care.



It's my understanding that

It's my understanding that Standard Oil was initially funded, at least in part, by or through the Rothschilds. Certainly the Rothschilds were involved in backing Rockefeller's City Bank of New York. The ties have alway been fairly tight and close. Nothing new, but thanks for the recent links.

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