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Adam Kokesh - Why I support him...

I've only met Adam a couple of times (he did a promo for the Vet's march on the convention in my Ron Paul Liberty Corvette) but I am impressed by his sincerity and honesty. Now I'm sure he has some problems (don't we all?). I can't believe that he's up to sneaky tactics or harm to the liberty idea which he strongly promotes and I feel is engrained deep in his soul. He got in deep and I'm sure that most vets believe that their "government" (a fiction) would, when push comes to shove, would side with justice. As an old man, I know that this is far from the truth. I've seen way too many people go to prison for long terms (my friend Irwin Schiff and Ed and Elaine Brown for example) for taking a stand for liberty. Of course the mistake that all these people made was assuming that justice can be found in the court systems.

IT CANNOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I need more exclamation points)

Anyone who takes a liberty stand will not find any satisfaction in our courts unless they get an ally on the jury (very unlikely they way they stack the juries). Jury nullification is a fantastic idea and I even wrote an article that was published in the Seaside Oregon newspaper back in the mid-70's (I have a copy of it). I wrote the article after I was amazed by what Lysander Spooner wrote in his "Essay on the Trial By Jury". Jury nullification is something we all need to promote but we can't be too confident as in these high profile cases I'm sure that the "government" (a fiction) will make sure that ALL 12 will be friends of the court or otherwise bought out. "They" can't afford to lose these cases as the rabble will see them as weakness and will start to actually believe that their rights can be protected from violation by the goons.

We don't know what happened to Adam while in lockup and I doubt that he will be able to tell us (either through a gag order or his own restriction on letting it all out through his misplaced concern about what others might think). I know that if I am subjected to certain treatment (torture comes in many forms) that I will confess to killing RFK and Lincoln. The human mind can be conditioned and broken and although I don't think Adam has been "broken" I'm sure he was presented with two possible outcomes and chose the wiser path.

Don't tell me you guys know what he's been through because only Adam knows the answer.

I love you Adam...



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yes

and I suspect that underscores yet another reason why I would never represent you. BTW, today is Veterans Day.

I don't tell people how they should live their life. I just comment on bogus fraudulent scams to the effect that one can become a sovereign citizen or capture their straw man or other ridiculous crap that you and your ill-educated buddies like to pretend. Me telling you that sovereign citizens always lose in court, or that there is no straw man in no way tells you how to live. But alas, you;re not receptive to the truth, so it doesnt matter, and I don't really care if you buy what I'm saying or not. There are also highly vocal persons who believe the Earth is flat. You should check them out; you may already have some friends there!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

You've told people they shouldn't listen to Alex Jones

How is that educating people on bogus legal schemes?

I've never used sov cit arguments ever, repeatedly told you so but you continue to make shit up as you go along. Kind of like your pals down there at GOP HQ!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Don;t recall doing that

I do recall saying I don't like Alex Jones because of all the hyperbole and exageration, and his stupid "I challenge you to a fistfight" crap he pulls with Piers Morgan etc. I do recall saying that even Alex Jones says that the sovereign citizen stuff is bunk and that he knows people that have gone to jail for trying it.

If you don't use sovereign citizen arguments, ever, then what is your beef with me? That is the only thing I've been critical of, that and childish conspiracy theory crap. You guys argue incessantly with me if I criticize it, engage in endless ad hominem attacks, and then claim you aren't in favor of their arguments. It makes no sense.

I'm a registered libertarian. No friends at GOP headquarters. Sorry.

You know what? You're just the thing you complain of. You and your conspiratard idiot buddies do nothing but give libertarians a bad name for being into ridiculous theories and insisting that everyone has to agree with them. Some freedom there is in your world! Geesh.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Well, thanks for nothing then

If you aren't awake about the big things, how can you be so right about the little stuff?

You fail!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

sure bye little Hitler

find some other libertarians to bully because they don't agree with every chapter and verse of your world of conspiracy theories. What you call "the big stuff."

Meanwhile, I'll continue to focus on what you call "the little stuff" e.g., civil liberties.

What a tool.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Mental breakdown

much?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

nope

were you going to share some advice in that area?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

I just send the people your way who want to see how it's done

Let me guess, a lowly clerk for a judge somewhere? Frustrated doctor kicked out of dental school? You ride your bike to work so you can afford the gas to get out of town on the weekends?

:)

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

such a liberty lover

you add bicycle commuters and lawyers and career changers to your list of things that you don't approve of. Tell me more about how I'm trying to "tell people what to do."

You're a real creep.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

moe ad hominem attacks

which are particularly lame I might add.

No, actually, but there's nothing wrong with someone choosing law over medicine. Most doctors I know are in it for one thing, money, and most lawyers are far more principled. There's nothing wrong with riding a bike to work, either. But, having a correct understanding of the judicial system is something you also think is a bad thing, so why would you stop there? Not a clerk for a judge, but that is a perfectly good thing to do.

You're just a lot of flailing and failing tonight, I P Freeman

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein