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Update: Three Coder Guys Had Meeting With HHS Last Night - Developing


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HHS CALLED Health Sherpa to come to D.C. and help fix Healthcare.Gov!
VIDEO

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57611592/s.f-programme...

http://www.thehealthsherpa.com/
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Meet the Health Sherpa, the website HealthCare.gov probably should have been. George Kalogeropoulos, Ning Liang and Michael Wasser saw the troubled launch and decided they could do a better health care enrolment website better than the government and, by golly, they succeeded. The Health Sherpa makes it ridiculously easy for anyone to compare health care plans covered under Obamacare in 34 states.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2013/11/three-guys...

Your Health Sherpas

George Kalogeropoulos

George provides customer support and handles press relationships for the Health Sherpa. He cares deeply about efficiency and price transparency in healthcare. George is a graduate of Yale University.


Ning Liang

Ning does technology and product strategy for OpsCost. He's passionate about helping people make better decisions through data. Ning is a graduate of Yale University.


Michael Wasser

Michael handles the day-to-day operations of Health Sherpa. He saw many individuals having trouble during the launch of Healthcare.gov and wanted to make a difference. Michael is a graduate of the University of Maryland.




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Well intentioned fools.

Maybe not. Even if these two have done what the Feds cannot doesn't mean that their site meets the 4000 pages of regs imposed on the construction of the healthcare website. McAfee turned down a request to fix the site because before he could even start he would have had to comply with their ridiculous parameters in the 4000 pages.

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CNBC is having them back on

CNBC is having them back on this morning

Reminds me of

This reminds me of the British Officer who upon his pride used his knowledge and the American prisoners to help the Japanese build that RR bridge in the movie "Bridge On The Rive Kwai"

Why on earth do they want to help the corrupt government with this or any problem they have when it's to bring better destruction?

How foolish are they!

Thanks guys...Thanks a lot!

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(CNN) -- How hard is it to

(CNN) -- How hard is it to create a website to help people get health insurance under the Affordable Care Act?

For three 20-year-old programmers in San Francisco, it took about three days' worth of work.

Spurred by the problems that have surrounded the rollout of the official HeathCare.gov site, the trio created an alternative, Health Sherpa, quickly and cheaply. At first glance, it looks like a triumph of tech-startup nimbleness over government inefficiency.

George Kalogeropoulos, who created the site along with Ning Liang and Michael Wasser, said all three of them had tried using the government website to get insurance.

"We were surprised to see that it was actually fairly difficult to use HealthCare.gov to find and understand our options," he told CNN. "Given that the data was publicly available, we thought that it made a lot of sense to take the data that was on there and just make it easy to search through and view available plans."

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/george-kalogeropoulos-...

This news is terrible

Basically it says that the government cant make a website work with hundreds of employees and half a billion dollars, when three people can make a much better website for free in their spare time. And now the same government who can not do what three people did for free even after they throw people and money at the problem, are now going to run our complicated health care system.

Built?

Just find it funny when computer people use this word describing the release of their website.

donvino

Too bad the tax $$$ is already spent / contracted / blown on the

original group of shits-for-brains. (Not that it matters with our funny munny...)

Reminds me of a programmer colleague who said it was practically standard ops to write 300 lines of code in a government job to every 1 line of code written in a private sector contract.

*Choke!* (I laugh and cry simultaneously.)

It's not enough for DomesticTerroristFederalGovernment to enact this saboteurial "law"... they hafta make it inefficient, inoperable, and of the poorest infrastructural quality imaginable!

What would the Founders do?

Yeah

Too bad these guys didn't have the connections with Moochelle Obama to get the no-bid contract. Otherwise they would have pocketed $700 billion for their efforts over the weekend.

Must be nice to have "powerful" friends....

Good grief.

What would the Founders do?

Yeah

But would it scale well enough to handle the load?

It's already working. Try

It's already working.
Try it.
You don't need to put in an personal infor.

Don't Encourage Them!

A better gas chamber is still a gas chamber!

I know. You're right

Yet these guys clearly demonstrate the ability and motivation of the free market.

If the industry sheds the government and has Amazon type insurance marketing with no state boundaries they'd make a fortune. But if a couple of big companies have government assistance they will keep killing off smaller competitors.
I actually found great options when I went to the site.
I haven't had insurance for 5 years.
I put $7,000 a year away instead of paying insurance premiums. That account is over $35,000 now.

Haven't been to the doctor in 5 years.
In 2008 they told me I had esophageal cancer. I'm fine.

PRICES -- itemized prices make a real FREE MARKET

UPFRONT, well advertised and well displayed PRICES are what is needed.

Diagnosis Prices

Testing Prices

Medical Treatment Prices.

That is what is sorely missing and is the reason there is no true
"medical marketplace".

Treg

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Embarrassing.

Embarrassing. Yet unsurprising.

Eat that, Obamarx.

And, "bon appetit".

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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Was the cost slightly less

Was the cost slightly less than half a billion dollars to the American taxpayers?

3 guys and a minimal budget vs. one of the biggest wastes of taxpayer dollars of all time.

The free market confronts Obamacare head on, the free market is winning.

Obamcare is a complete failure and a proven waste of time, money, energy and human government resources.

A group of teenagers in their freshmen year of college at MIT could have devised a better system than the one we have today for free.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

They did it for NO money. They own OpsCost.com

I'll try to find the video from the news.
They just decided to do it because that's what they do for their business.

Big deal - our own M.N. offered to fix it for $100...

eventually they settled on $80:
http://www.dailypaul.com/302316/daily-paul-founder-offers-to...

why are pandas exempt from RICO statutes?

You mean Michael "Ninja" Nystrom?

Ha ha that's the guy...

:)

why are pandas exempt from RICO statutes?

OpsCost allows users to easily search and compare

OpsCost allows users to easily search and compare hospital charges.

http://www.opscost.com/

That is a Good Start

Now we need it broken down into 3 major categories"

A) Diagnosis Cost:

B) Testing Cost:

C) Treatment Costs:

+++++++++++++++++++++++

So choosing your doctor is your "Diagnosis Cost".

Example, you have dull pain for 5 hours in lower right side, and now the pain is getting sharper, you're hot, you are worried, the pain is just a few inches to the right of your bellybutton. So you choose a doctor for diagnosis. Now he recommends a list of tests tests: blood drown, urine, etc.

So you choose your TESTING COSTS:
(You can have the doctor request the testing via his favorite suppliers or you can shop around on your own. Your choice.)

The diagnosis is -- Appendicitis.

Now you shop around who specializes in doing that operation.
(Again, you can have doctor recommend someone, or you can shop around. Your choice.)

** The common argument I hear from the Left is "Who has time to shop around??? Crazy libertarians!" And my reply is this:

--Have you broken your arm lately? If you have, perhaps broke it on a weekend, and you went to the all purpose emergency room. That took several hours right there, waiting, waiting, waiting. Your buddy COULD have shopped for a specialist in broken arms and legs on his cell phone, yet no such thing exists, so you waited at the emergency room, the only thing open on the weekend. Then you wait for the "x-rays to come back". Then you wait for them to "set your arm back". Then you are given instructions to get your cast done at another place, wrapped up and sent home with a prescription for pain. You wait for that prescription to be filled. Wait. Monday comes and they can get you in Wed. So keep your arm wrapped up. That is the system today.

The system COULD what I call, "Free Market Pricing Different". Imagine, you are playing basketball on the weekend, you fall, you break your arm. You're in pain. Your buddies use their cell phone and search "broken arm specialists". They find a dozen in the city and many are open on Saturday & Sunday. They see right there on the website where the nearest ones are. Two are very close. The both post prices: They look through itemized list: Broken arm, no skin break, between elbow and wrist (most common), - includes all x-rays, setting and casting. In and out in 3 hours with 1 weeks worth of pain medication --$2,215.00. Two break points, $2,515.00. Wrist and arm break, $3,115.00. Arm and Elbow breaks, $3,216.00. and so it goes. By the time your buddies have you into the car he has read the second Bone specialist and seen their listed prices. Nothing much different with their pricing, prices are very close, except they add "24 month payment plans at 12% interest available to everyone." He hits map to find the directions. He tells your buddies where to take you. You are in and out inside of 2 hours, home, with pain meds, with a cast on, and with a $110 dollar payment. Bad day? Sure, but it could be worse, you could be still waiting at the "emergency room" and waiting to get your pain meds at the pharmacy and waiting to get your cast on Wednesday.

**As many people have observed, the cosmetic industry, with breast and nose surgeries and more, ALL POST their prices and the level of service you shall receive. All of them give a remarkable level of service, despite the fact that no two surgeries are exactly the same.

***As many people have experienced in any emergency room - The emergency room experience, the service sucks, it takes LOTS of time, and worse, the Unknown bill arrives 3-4 weeks later. Average cost? $8,456 for a broken arm.

How do I know all this? I know it personally because it happened to my own son. As we sat in the "emergency waiting area" (oxymoron?), I could not help but feel horribly frustrated that I could not shop for better service. I could not help wonder if another emergency room was better staffed and just plain better. I could not help wonder if this emergency room was busy saving people with bullet wounds in the back while another emergency room 10 miles away had yawning medical team saying "this day is so slow".

Think about what Medical Market Prices could do... and spread the word.

Treg

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How could anyone ever think

How could anyone ever think that the private market can provide a better product than the government can?

Blasphemy!

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Say what you want

But Michelle Obama's Princeton classmate did a way better job of raking in that $700 million no-bid contract. These guys are amateurs compared to her.

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"You didn't build that," as

"You didn't build that," as Obama would say.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

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