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Ben Swann Encourages Libertarians: We Need Chaos in the System!

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This comes in response to Rand Paul's plea, Don't vote Libertarian

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I love Ben Swann, but ABSOLUTELY disagree with him

on his approach for the 2014 elections.

Ben is a great reporter of the truth, but is proving himself to be a POOR leader. Such a directive will prove to be a DISASTER, and leave us without victory in 2014.

We have the GREATEST POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY of a lifetime in front of us, its called ObamaCare, ...I HOPE we don't blow it.

If we stay focused we can sweep most of the 31 available senate seats, and all the 435 congressional seats, using ObamaCare as the REASON for CHANGE.

A good solder doesn't necessarily make for a good General.

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not voting at all might be the best option. if you pull the lever for the reps or dems you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

LOL, trying to defeat the

LOL, trying to defeat the monster by justifying it through participation only makes the monster stronger.

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

Not Exactly "chaos"

If you want to have a true statist versus non-statist you have to force all the do-gooder big spender big gov't into ONE party and give a choice to the true center of both parties to unite. As an alternate delegate to the convention I believe I have a good bead on the problem. If you think the statists are going to win because we are handing the races to them, you don't understand who makes up the establishment republican. They have to see we make a difference.

And don't underestimate the selfishness of the republican neo-con. They would rather be a democrat than be powerless. (Alan Specter) They will go to the party that gives them the most power... remember Perry and Rove were both Democrats.

And wake up... if you think the end of the USA is near then you need to look down and read that caption "objects in mirror are closer than they appear"... you missed it. What exactly is the USA defined as for you that hasn't been swept aside?

Ben Swann is on crack

if he is saying he wants economic collapse and the Collapse of the United States.

You're on crack if you think

You're on crack if you think the leviathan will be defeated from within. Collapse is like a fire in the forest; rebirth will follow.

Sometimes you just have to rip the band-aid off instead of prolonging the agony.

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

What country do you live in?

In my country the economy HAS collapsed at the hands of both the Democrats and the Republicans. If you think Ben's 'chaos' will result in economic collapse, you must think blindly supporting the Republican Party first in your heart will bring about a recovery. That has no facts to support it.

The establishment wins if we have zero effect in primaries and main elections. Squeaky wheel gets the oil, or the whole cart gets turned over. That's right I said it!

After years of studying austrian economics and liberty...

I tend to agree that only a full collapse will wake up the masses who want to use the force of government against every human action.

Don't fear the chaos

"Chaotic" basically means "unpredictable." A forest is really quite chaotic - there's no way to predict where a tree will grow, or if that vole can escape from that crow, etc, but the forest seems to get along just fine without bureaucrats dictating its structure.

There are no straight lines or 90° angles in Nature.

Freedom is my Worship Word!



Big republicans should back a

Big republicans should back a Socialist Party of America candidate along the lines of Bernie Sanders types in every major race to siphon off votes from democrats.

tptb will do what they want anyway.

I LOVE crashing parties, even when they are the SAME.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Bring them Chaos

they want to cheat, propagate the state and its wars....well now they get what they get. KARMA!!!!

Swann is wrong

The chaos occurred and the statement was made in 2012. A new conservative populist coalition is now emerging that is changing the Republican Party. Our goal now should be the utter destruction of Progressivism in all of its nefarious forms. Libertarians and Constitutionalists should be joining forces to destroy the Democratic Party and its Marxist/Socialist identity. At the same time, we continue to marginalize the corporate Republicans.

Swann is proposing a strategy that will allow the Obama police state to grow even further. Obama is on the ropes and now is the time to destroy him politically and all that support him.

LOL right....

Yeah..Libertarians, help us get our C4L candidate elected but if they don't win the Republican primary, we're never going to vote for a Libertarian candidate to send a message to the Republican party establishment.

Why would Libertarians take that deal? What's the point of that?

We apparently belong to you

That's why it is ok to smear, lie and abuse us

Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


Please tell me how I've....

smeared, lie and abused you.

I don't agree with Swann

And I don't think his proposal lacks substantive evidence to support a victory. Frankly, I felt like he was a much better reporter on fox cincy than this new venture he is doing. He is not speaking to the masses anymore. He has picked a side and can no longer be used to wake up the people in the same way he did before...by being a great unbiased journalist on a television station. When he asked about what he should do, I told him that he should stick with fox5 Journalism. We don't need him to preach to the choir, we already know everything he knows. I am not sure if it is his ego or someone else's that made him do what he is doing...but I think his talents were better served on more mainstream tv. I still think he is a great guy and I support whatever he does.

"Swann is proposing a

"Swann is proposing a strategy that will allow the Obama police state to grow even further. Obama is on the ropes and now is the time to destroy him politically and all that support him."

Dude, wake up.. You can't get anymore under "government control" then we are right now. The shtf will never happen, not now, not ever. This is what draconian rule looks like. People are slaves and they accept it without even flinching. Our country went down the drain a LONG time ago, we're just all seeing it now. And news flash, Obama didn't flush it either. It's been this way since the beginning, we've never even had a free market in the United States of America, ever... It's all just an illusion that we're free.

Your conservatism won't save us either. Not even a little bit. We tried that, remember??? It's why we're in this huge mess we're in now.. It's like you going from a prison to a small cell and thinking you're more free.. A little less coercion is not the same as none at all. You're still under the Governments control. They still own you and your labor.. Unless..... You take the power away from them. I say bring in the chaos, vote in Anarcho-capitalist/Libertarians that will shut down the Feds and flip the script on them all. Imagine that? The media wouldn't know what to do with themselves if we voted in an Anarchist for shits and giggles LOL

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Love your idea!

Let's start the Anarchist Party!

Our goal is to eliminate the need for the offices we are elected to. Neat, impode the system from within.

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Exactamundo my friend!

Exactamundo my friend!

That is the state LP'S

Most of us Libertarians are Anarchist! At least it is that way in Pennsylvania. The Chair is even out as an Anarchist, and we have the most elected Libertarians in all 50 states!