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Who here works in the Sheriff's department?

So... I have been rolling around the idea of potentially joining the Sheriffs department. Being somewhat inspired by videos like the one below; I believe there is a need for more liberty, constitutional Sheriffs. Also if SHTF the more like-minded people we have in positions of authority, the better.

This is just something I've been mulling over in my head, and am curious if anyone here has experienced input.


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So I contacted Sheriff Mack

First off, thanks everyone for your feedback.
One of the posters below mentioned contacting Sheriff Mack.
I hadn't really heard of him, so thanks for the advise; he is behind http://cspoa.org/

Here's my letter:

"Hello,

So... I have been rolling around the idea of potentially joining the Sheriffs department. Being somewhat inspired by videos like the one below; I believe there is a need for more liberty, constitutional Sheriffs. Also if things go south the more liberty-minded people we have in positions of authority, the better.

This is just something I've been mulling over in my head, and am curious what your opinion is?

My thoughts are both the office of policy maker, and policy enforcer need to be taken over by liberty minded people.

If we don't become the change we wish to see...we will continue to see more bad cops.

I have heard the opinions that the whole system has become so corrupt, and the peer pressure so great, that joining is futile, and will just ultimately result in turning to the "dark side".

Is this so, in your opinion? Would a liberty-minded individual have to succumb to violating his conscience, follow peer pressure, or be forced out? Or can you still be a force for good in this profession?

Thank you for your time."

His response:

"yes I highly recommend being a deputy as the video demonstrates and also as Dpty Stan Lennic showed in the Albany airport. We named Lennic our Dpty Sheriff of the year (CSPOA) Please see our website at www.cspoa.org.

I will tell you that we need more constitutional sheriffs and deputies all across this great country. I hope you are one of them very soon.

On a side note, it is never the Sheriff's Dept., but only and always the Sheriff's Office. A dept. is a division of some other office. The Sheriff's Office is not a dept or division. It is the office of the people managed by their employee. It is the high office of the people. The Sheriff's Office.

Good luck my friend,

Sheriff Mack"

So definitely an encouragement.
I think I may take some steps to pursue this, we shall see where it leads.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

I think Ron Paul would encourage you!

When I 1st met him in 2007 I walked with him and his entourage from the U.S. Naval Reserve building down a path along Lake Union, to their mini-van. I told him what life is like working for a global corporation, on the ground floor of the global supply chain model, and how globalism is being pushed in the online web based training and classes. He said "We are aware that is going on." I explained that going to the union on the issue of indoctrination into globalism is not an option because they believe in many of the same collectivist type of beliefs," or something to that extent. He replied "We need more liberty and freedom minded people in positions of leadership where they can have an influence, like Shop Stewards, Team Leads, Supervisors or Managers, (and I would add to that "Employee Involvement Team Captains", etc.) "The goal is to get more people in those positions, just like we are trying to do with the delegates and PCO's in the Republican party."

So, based on that conversation, I think Ron Paul would encourage you to pursue a career in law enforcement for a county sheriff's department. I do too. We need more DP'ers in those positions, so robots on steroids don't fill them, and invariably fill innocent people with lead.

Political Office

The Sherrif is an elected official.

I imagine it's somewhat like what happens in D.C. when a new president comes in. Mass layoffs and quittings if you don't like the new guy or he doesn't like you.

However, I do imagine that if the department has enough members, they can control the vote, somewhat.

Key would be to be patient, plan ahead, and make friends, so that you can influence the outcome of elections.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

My half-nephew

My half-sister and I were talking the other day about how he had changed since he became a deputy sheriff. He used to be a fairly ok guy when we were kids but he is now a person I despise. Literally and completely.

After joining up he developed this attitude of... superiority, dominance or something. He seemed unable to come to a family dinner and leave the cop persona at home.. "checking" your eyes and physically dominating people "in play" He grilled you rather than conversed and dog help you if you got your names, dates or places wrong about anything in the past. I asked him to leave thanksgiving dinner once when he was openly mocking my elderly parents mental confusion. I despise him because he lies and is dishonorable.

Would he have been like this if he hadn't joined up..? I don't know.

I think it would take a very strong good personality to stand up, maybe alone, and resist the pull of control and power over people.

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

Power Corrupts

The testoserone levels measurably increase when people are promoted to positions of higher power.

It's a problem everywhere, as power tends to magnify character flaws that the person used to control from necessity.

This is why people "change." Same thing happens with chickens.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

The position draws that personality...

...like any position of authority.

I agree that many times the "change" is just a result of what was already there to begin with.
They no longer feel the need to hide that side of them anymore, and even perhaps sought the job for that very reason.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

You already said it yourself:

"If we don't become the change we wish to see...we will continue to see more bad cops."

While I have no firsthand experience, I do know at least 3 people who work in sheriff depts. around my home State. Based on what they've shared with me, all I can say to you is be strong in your beliefs, no matter what may happen on the job down the road, and you will be okay in the end. Weigh the benefits and liabilities of that job and then follow your gut instincts as to whether or not you should join. Just stay strong in your beliefs, whatever you decide to do.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

It is a nice thought, but...

This is a nice thought "If we don't become the change we wish to see...we will continue to see more bad cops.". The problem is that the peer pressure to "Go with the flow" is unbeatable. Unless you are the "Sheriff" himself, your hands are tied and powerless. You have no idea how many times I have seen one officer wanting to stop the actions of another who was in the wrong. Yet they were absolutely powerless to stop it no matter how much they wanted to.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Just an observation, but...

... Your odds of being elected Sheriff are slim to none with no law enforcement background.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

I would highly suggest not doing it

Unless you want to spend 20 years of "arrest them all, throw them in jail, let the courts figure it out" to get the experience needed, I would highly suggest you not dive into this line of work.

My Father and my Uncle were both true "peace officers" in the day. They ended up quitting because of the new way of thinking and the civil abuses by fellow officers. They were ashamed of the new MO.

My Son in law is currently a deputy for Sheriff Joe in Az and hates it. If you have just one liberty minded ideal, you are going to hate it just as he does. Nope, if you respect liberty it is the wrong job, might as well join the military.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Isn't that exactly what they want?

I can't help but notice the parallels between this, and our political situation.
The bad people driving the good ones out, and the good ones throwing in the towel. Resulting in what? Well, our current situation. (i.e. the bad people running everything.)

Should it not be our goal to take back both of these?

Believe me, I am more skeptical of cops than most, and you'd be hard pressed to find a Facebook wall more full of police brutality videos than mine.

Sitting here on my computer expressing my disgust for cops (which I do a lot) not upholding the constitution and actually serving the public, accomplishes what? Nothing. It does nothing.

I could even get up and go down to the street corner and protest it, but at the end of the day I have still accomplished nothing. The bad apples are still working, and will continue to do so until the good people do exactly what was done to them; Take over!

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

Don't take this the wrong way, as I am appreciative of everyone's feedback.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

Absoltely powerless in that scenario.

But, if the other is a close friend, you might have a chance, unless the order came from the top.

That's why I usually end up saying to people to follow their gut instincts. The heart and the machinations of the mind will trip us up. Your gut will lead you towards self preservation.

The do-gooder who interferes will soon find himself hung out to dry. That's the story I've heard repeatedly.

Seems to me that since he said to "become the change", he already knows he wants the job. How to handle the job once he has it, that's the issue he has to contend with. You're right. It ain't gonna be a stroll in the park.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Telling this guy to not be a sheriff

cause they are all bad is like telling Ron Paul not to be a politician or a Republican cause they are all bad.

Law enforcement is an honorable profession...if you make it so.

Just uphold your oath, no matter what.

2/3 of the laws are unconstitutional and...

...the job requires the cop enforce the law, Constitutional or not. If the "perp" resists, the cop uses escalating force until the "perp" is dead.

So Bob. How is this done honorably?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

I would run for Sheriff

If you have the money, and if you have Law Enforcement experience. If you have no experience, then you could join the sheriffs department as a deputy first. But, the problem is that the FBI and our federal government has been encroaching on the sheriffs department and police departments. I know this because I used to work inside the sheriffs department where I live. I would say that just a few percentage wise really know what's going on in the government regarding NDAA, etc.

Most of the deputies that I worked with and detectives all would support the right to bear arms, but I couch that carefully in terms of how the FEDs are trying to brainwash them as well into believing we citizens are all their enemies. I don't know if I'd recommend going this route unless you need the money, but it's not all rosy as you might envision.

You could contact Sheriff Mack, and I am positive he would visit with you about your idea, and he could give you a lot of advice as to where you could consider working. Being flexible is the key here. I've met Sheriff Mack and he is an exceptional Sheriff. Google him. Go to his website and take it from there!

Only crooks should be cops...

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I am a Volunteer at the Sheriffs Dept.

I am a volunteer at my local County Sheriffs Dept. as part of their Crime Prevention Program. People interested in having their homes checked for ways to better protect against burglary call in, and myself and another volunteer go to their home and inspect doors, windows, lighting, etc. There are quite a few things you can do to help prevent or "deter" someone from breaking into your home. People are very grateful for the the literature and advice on how better to protect their homes against burglary.

Here is a good one: if you have plastic or glass windows in your garage door, look thru the middle window and more than likely you will see the rope hanging down that releases the door drive from the track. They punch out the window, reach in & pull the rope, and up goes the garage door. Remove the rope as a precaution.

I find that the people with the Sheriffs Dept. here where I live are good people with a tough job dealing with some bad and nasty people in our society. The county I live in in Oregon has the highest burglary rate in the US, and the Dept. is so underfunded it is not even funny.

I have had a few good talks with a few of them, and they a very aware of what is going on in our country and definitely stand by the Constitution!

SO some guy looks good on 1

SO some guy looks good on 1 issue with a cameras on him.

Follow him for 1 day and you will see his do wrong.

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be careful, it would be easy

be careful, it would be easy to get pulled in by the dark side.

They're all on the dark side.

Terms of employment are they must do as they are told. I've asked many cops if they've refused an order because it violates a Constitutional right. Not one! Generally they say it's the city attorney that has to worry about lawsuits.

If the cop kills you and your Constitutional rights, oops. They just lose their free oops. An oops is worth up to and including one free pre-meditated murder. Or 16 years of planting drugs on people they don't like.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Yes.... sage advice..

This should be a concern for anyone running for office as well...

My thoughts are both the office of policy maker, and policy enforcer need to be taken over by liberty minded people.

If we don't become the change we wish to see...we will continue to see more bad cops.

Thank you for the wise reminder.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

Break on through!

Break on through!

I found an island in your arms
Country in your eyes
Arms that chain us
Eyes that lie
Break on through to the other side
Break on through to the other side
Break on through, oww!
Oh, yeah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BIjCW2_Uik

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

YES!!

Go for it!

I agree!

Sheriff Stinko.....has a nice ring to it!

Go get em'

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

hahaha

Yeah, I should request that be my name-tag just to make sure I don't ever get an inflated ego. ;)

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison