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Libertarian candidates with money - the only thing scarier than a black man with a gun

Since a few days before last Tuesday's election, every conservative blog, every Virginia Republican activist, and every right wing talk show host, has been repeating a truly retarded article in "libertarian" Glenn Beck's online rag, The Blaze, that deliberately creates the impression that an Austin Democrat under the direction of the Obama regime totally funded Robert Sarvis's Virginia gubernatorial effort and got him on the ballot.

Here are the facts they omit or misreport:

1) The Virginia Libertarian Party always gets on the ballot, collecting the 10,000 plus valid signatures needed, to comply with the extremely restrictive ballot access laws the Virginia GOP helped write, laws that just last year kept every Republican candidate off the Republican primary ballot except for Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. The LP has run gubernatorial candidates before, recently Bill Redpath of Leesburg.

2) The Blaze claims the $11,000 the Libertarian Booster PAC donated to Sarvis (out of the donation they received from a millionaire Democrat) was his biggest campaign donation. That is simply a lie. He gave his own campaign $20,000.

3) And the largest expenditure in his campaign wasn't even by his campaign, but was an independent purchase (see below) by the newly founded, all libertarian Purple PAC, of around $300,000 in radio and TV ads.

The faux "progressives" at the so called Center for "Public Integrity" are also shaking in and soiling its panties as much as the GOPsters, as afraid of a Libertarian candidate with some money as they are of a black man with a gun (and you can bet they are for disarming him too!).

Lets do the math for these cretins:

Sarvis got 145,762 votes and had $380,000 spent on his campaign, paying a little over $2.60 a vote.

Cuccinelli got 1,010,929 votes and had $14,230,000 spent on his campaign, paying a little over $14 a vote.

McAuliffe got 1,066,149 votes and had $22,053,041 spent on his campaign, paying just under $21 a vote.

Here's the article from the faux progressive Center for a Public Integrity:

Libertarians declare 'mission accomplished' in Virginia — after super PAC help
Robert Sarvis, who earned record 6.5 percent of vote, bolstered by big-dollar groups
By Center for Public Integrity

November 4, 2013

Two days after Virginia voters narrowly elected Democratic gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe over Republican Ken Cuccinelli, Libertarian National Committee Executive Director Wes Benedict declared "mission accomplished."

If so, a pair of super PACs played an overriding role in the success of Libertarian Robert Sarvis, who garned a sizable 6.5 percent of the vote — the third-highest vote total for a Libertarian gubernatorial candidate in history, in any state.

In the final stretch of the campaign, a pro-Libertarian super PAC called the Purple PAC financed a media blitz, spending roughly $300,000 on TV ads — nearly $100,000 more than Sarvis' campaign itself raised during the race.

And of the roughly $200,000 raised by Sarvis, the Libertarian Booster PACranked as his largest donor, behind Sarvis himself, at about $11,500, according to the Virginia Public Access Project.

Major donors to the Purple PAC include Kentucky horse breeder Richard Masson and billionaire options trader Jeffrey Yass, who sits on the board of the Cato Institute, as the Center for Public Integrity has previously reported.

Meanwhile, the Libertarian Booster PAC, which under Virginia law is allowed to accept unlimited contributions, was started in 2011 by Benedict. It counts Joe Liemandt — the Stanford University dropout who founded and runs the software company Trilogy — as its largest donor this year.

That relationship has earned Sarvis and the PAC ire from the likes of Rush Limbaugh to Karl Rove in recent days.

The reason for their fury: Liemandt and his wife Andra have deep financial ties not only to the Libertarian Party, but also to Democrats including President Barack Obama.

For instance, Andra Liemandt was credited by as bundling $326,000 for Obama's 2012 re-election efforts, according to documents obtained by the New York Times. Federal Election Commission records show the couple alone donated $156,700 to the Obama Victory Fund, which boosted Obama's campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Democratic parties in battleground states like Virginia.

The Liemandts together also donated about $141,000 to the Libertarian National Committee between 2008 and 2012, according to a Center for Public Integrity review of FEC records.

In a press release issued Thursday afternoon. Benedict argued that Sarvis should not be called a spoiler by Republicans.

"My hope with the Robert Sarvis campaign was for the election to be close between the Democrat and Republican, with the Libertarian getting more votes than in previous elections," said Benedict
"I want Libertarians to win elections," Benedict continued. "But I also want them to run for office even when they're unlikely to win. Why? To get the public to discuss and consider libertarian principles."

Both McAuliffe and Cuccinelli also benefited from spending by independent groups, although not to the same extent as Sarvis. And for his part, McAuliffe raised about $33 million, while Cuccinelli raised $18 million.

Update Nov. 8, 2013, 10:16 a.m.: Purple PAC President Ed Crane — a former chairman of the Libertarian National Committee and founder of the Cato Institute — told the Center for Public Integrity that his group's extra boost was a "healthy thing" for the Virginian electorate, which got to hear from a candidate with a "socially tolerant agenda" who also favors "lower taxes and less business regulations."

Like Benedict, he challenged the notion that Sarvis' campaign was a boon to McAuliffe.

"This idea that libertarians are automatically taking votes away from Republicans is just not true," he said.
Crane added that if Purple PAC had started earlier and had $5 million at its disposal, instead of a few hundred thousand, Sarvis "could have got a quarter of the vote."

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who live in glass houses should not throw stones. All the problems in this country have been caused by the GOP & the DEM's.

Label Jars, Not People!


D and C SP post #3; NOV 11, 2013.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

I am a card carrying Libertarian....

I can tell you that whomever posted this DP Original is NO Libertarian - Obviously a Progressive trying to trash the Libertarian party.

A very curious


Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


Yeah your favorite scumbag

Yeah your favorite scumbag republican will save your sorry a ss

Stay as low as you want to stay in the republican party


The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

Dude! everybody is done with this.

Find something else to bitch about, like why harry read won't bring the audit the fed bill to the floor when we have him on camera saying that it's unfair that the bill won't be brought to the floor for a vote, and for some reason the MSM won't show the clip to the American people.

That's a much more productive way to exert your negative energy.


Clearly you aren't

And why so bossy?

Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


lol prob not the best choice

lol prob not the best choice of title.

I might add

That the 11k wasn't even for Sarvis but was donated to the VA LP for ballot access generally. If the Republicans are so weak that they can't compete with the LP they are truly doomed.

How many here defended Ron to the death about the Stormfront contributions. The irony is getting unbearable.


How dare you suggest a moral equivalence between those nice

Storm frontiers and some evil tech tycoon who ate dinner in Obama's White House.

How do you expect the GOP to be elected if you keep saying things like that?

Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


"I got their money away from them ... " -Ron Paul

Yes, the irony is quite thick ...

Gun ownership is a great

Gun ownership is a great thing... except if it's a black man???

It is why the KKK was founded no?

To pass gun control to disarm blacks?


Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


Not to put a downer on the

Not to put a downer on the guys/girls post as im here reading his/hers points finnding them "attuned" to my own the musings and random thoughts, "provoked" by the virginian election, but yeah dude, that title man......unless your goal was to get folks to read your post by using "shock", if so, that was a fine line my friend, and to me, counterproductive to that goal. if that was indeed your goal

Clicked your post expecting to see intolerence, surprised to read the first few paragraphs and find out it was actually about something im interested in, (the "workings" of an election and the "other sides" ..eh..side), the chosen title though, and i know that writing on the internet is yet another layer of atempting to master what your trying to convey, as it is with such things, speech, body language and facial expression.....still, if you were trying the "shock" value, as someone who was'nt "offended" by the body of your post, i gotta say, fine line dude, fine line

Just to be clear, we think, we say, we act the same, some more alike with others, we are all capable of the same thoughts, we are all capable of the same fears......its recognising when we as individuals think the thoughts that randomly goes through our heads, either provoked by an external catalyst or just good'old thinking, to recognise to a high percentage, or to reach to a high percentage, those moments where, "yeah, i just had those thoughts, it came from me, i own it....but i choose to reject it, in the hopes that it becomes second nature, hopefully my mind opens up to other thoughts i hadnt considered due to a roadblock caused by my unbiden thoughts"

And i think ill just leave it at that, as i feel like im having grandiose notions of being someone who has a multitude of years of experience on the random-ish subjects i have conjured, i dont, i just have an opinion......and i have a high percentage in recognising it as such.....although the stronger they are, the more opinionated they seem

But saying ALLLLL that, this is my stance, i loathe the republican PARTY as much as i LOATH the DEMOCRAT party, so third parties dont fill me with "dread", i trully wish everysingle one luck, if their cause is just, and a little of it is because of the loath i have for the current "parties" in their inablity to stop the course that has lead us here, the inability to guide us to safer shores in this continuing journey, they are so stagnate, that i think all the majority care about is "winning", forgetting or not understanding, the original role of a constitutional government, the ensuing results of only caring about wining LEADS to the corruption, cause and affect, .........ok im reallly gonna stop now, as i just had grandiosa thoughts of being a prophet or something

Please do not read, i cant give your five minutes back :)

To surmarize, post good, title "bad"

I understand where you are coming from but...

... I live in what was for a long time a majority black city, so things that you don't hear often I hear every day.

Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


the republican and democratic

the republican and democratic party have screwed us over 1000 times more than the libertarian party has

I'm done arguing over

I'm done arguing over this.

Here's a fact. Virginians did not vote for the democrat and now they are stuck with him. There has to be some sort of strategy or this will be our demise.

I think everyone here can agree.


Virginians did not give a majority vote to Cuccinelli either. The real question to be answered here is this: What's wrong with the message that made Virginians support an LP candidate in record numbers? Why, for the first time ever, did the GOP find it necessary to admit that the LP candidate actually existed during the campaign? Never before has the GOP done on the offensive against the LP in Virginia.

That, to me, is a big step in the right direction. Now perhaps the GOP can actually engage in debate with the LP. Tell us why you're so deserving of our support in a real debate with all the candidates.

That may be true but,,,

...so far the GOP strategy is to scream, whine, blame, and call names.

Is that how Mises said you incentivize something?

Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


How could I have been down

How could I have been down voted for this? You think we don't need a strategy? Like by the grace of God we're going to win?

exactly this splintering bs

Is why we will continue to lose. Anymore I dont think im off base saying some here might want that.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

Click Here To See The Candidates On The Record

Bingo. Do they not know that


Do they not know that it is in our interest to save this hell hole? They have no idea what it will be like when the bottom falls out.

theyre naive

I have guns like a lot of people here too, ive taken training, im proficient at bushcraft and I really dont want society to collapse. Its not like mad max, lots of even skilled people will die and what is born out of the collape will most likely be a culmination of our current society. We need a new enlightenment.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

Click Here To See The Candidates On The Record

election law reforms

Election law reform….. IRV (ranked choice), multi-option voting, etc.

Republican party could have instituted run-off voting but have not moved at all in this direction. You would think after the disaster of 1992 that they would have learned their lesson – but they would rather have no viable 3rd party than to risk losing their power grip.

The cost of the GOP co-authored ballot access law is probably...

...around $120,000. By making the LP collect 10,000 valid signatures every time they want to get a statewide candidate on the ballot.

So if there is a particular race you don't want them in, that your laws that you wrote say they must get 10% in to be freed from another round of petitioning, why not pay them the cost of the ballot drive they will have to do two years hence if they stay out of a current election?

Don't you Paulians understand capitalism?

Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


No! Fart "Strategy!"

I will not vote for someone who will decrease my liberty. I don't know much about Sarvis, but I have enough substantiated knowledge about McAuliffe and Cuccinelli to know that neither of them would ever get my vote, even for Dog Catcher.

It doesn't matter

I'm 100% done with the Libertarian party after pulling this crap and costing a true liberty candidate an election.

Bye bye!

Enjoy being called a wacko bird.

Bruce Majors, Libertarian for Mayor


Cuccinelli, a liberty candidate?

I guess you don't give a darn about personal liberties.