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Adam Kokesh on Coast to Coast 11/10/13

Interview starts at 1:20:00

http://youtu.be/p4S1_Vl5PB4
Kokesh Case

During the third hour, libertarian activist Adam Kokesh discussed his recent release from prison and provided an update on his legal case. Kokesh, who was arrested after he posted a video of himself loading a shotgun at the Freedom Plaza in Washington D.C., described his current legal status as "a delicate situation," since he has pled guilty to charges in D.C. and is due to be sentenced in January, while also still facing charges in Virginia. "I'm taking responsibility for my actions," he declared, but observed that the goal of his protest, to "challenge the way people think about government," was a success. Kokesh mused that "any kind of civil disobedience has consequences or it wouldn't be civil disobedience" and called the decision to plead guilty the "hardest decision I ever had to make in my life."



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Adam sounds like it has sunk in that he's fighting a very

big, dirty, force.

Personally I have this idea that you need to have one hell of a support system in place before you go sticking your finger in the eye of government.

You need to have back-up plan upon back-up plan.
And a team of solid honest trustworthy people to work behind the scenes on your behalf.
You need to have financial resources... big money.
A mouth piece of some sort.
A professional grade, TV Videography team to document everything for evidence.
The legal team needs to be in place well in advance, coaching you on your strategy
.
Adam is a good example of how you can get squished like a bug. Demoralized and weary.
Depleted and rendered ineffective.
He's at the mercy of the judge.
He didn't have a good plan.
And consequently he could end up doing enough time that he will have to work very hard to come back.
I hope he gets a good decision from this judge.

Bump

For Adam.

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

Thank you for the Interview!

All the best for Adam!

"Air is the very substance of our freedom, the substance of superhuman joy....aerial joy is freedom."--Gaston Bachelard--

So proud of this dude, but I

So proud of this dude, but I can't help but feel sad hearing his voice.. He sounds so defeated.... Keep your head up brother! We will get our time, soon.

Have new respect for Adam

after hearing this interview.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

I support Adam, but I wish

I support Adam, but I wish he'd stop buying this 'destiny of humanity' lie. How many years of human history do you have to look at to realize that humanity has a sin problem?

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

You couldn't be more

You couldn't be more wrong.... Humans don't have a natural "sin problem".. We learned it all and have never questioned it, till now. I'm really not sure if the Mayans were right, all I know is people are awake at a level I thought I'd never see this past year... At this date 2 years ago I felt like a complete outcast with what I knew about our world and now not at all.

When you look at the FACTS that say that this time in history is the most peaceful time EVER, then you will realize what Adam and others are saying is actually not optimism, but truth. We will get to that Utopian-esque era sooner rather than later. It is going to happen whether tptb want it or not. Every five years crime rate goes down, violence goes down, murder rates are going down. We are outgrowing our bad behavior at an exponential rate. Idk about destiny, but I can read statistics and the curve of violence is heading the right way, down and out, right with the fear mongers and predators.

Yes, sin is a learned behavior. But, funny thing is, humans are

always more than willing to learn it. I definitely don't see violence on a downward curve--I don't know which statistics you are referring to. Violent crime is at a high here in the US. I think the time is ripe for the 'man of peace' the Bible refers to. People are so tired of war and violence and bloodshed, that they will eagerly believe this liar that will come promising peace. Remember though, all blood thirsty maniacs in the recent past have come promising the same thing. "Comply or you will be removed, and then the world will have peace." Please be wary.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

"I definitely don't see

"I definitely don't see violence on a downward curve-"

Homicide Trends in the United States: 2000 Update http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus00.pdf

Murder Victims by Weapon, 2007–2011: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/c...

Homicide Trends in the United States, 1980-2008: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2012: http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

Now, these past 2 years HAVE risen, but they were already at an all time low and we're talking a very small percentage at an 8-12% rise in major cities violent crime with all other crimes continuing to drop for 2012-2013.

You don't remember these stats when the big "gun debate" was being had a few months ago? The odds of being killed is half of what it was in the 90's... Yes, you may not see it because we're hearing about crime everywhere all day everyday, seeing as we basically have a television in our hands 24/7 (phones/computers), but it's not worse than before. Crime has dropped. You know that thread about life being so great in the 50's/60's? Well guess what? According to crime statistics we're now very near or even below the rate of violence compared to that time.... We're safer now than ever... but only from fellow citizens, not governments.

Your last line about governments was really my point--

things are not getting better. So, the thug on the street is less of a threat than the thug in government? Some comfort.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I agree, there lies the major

I agree, there lies the major problem. Government.

But crime hasn't gone up.

It's still crime and it is violence in the heart of man.

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

SteveMT's picture

Excellent interview bump,....

especially on Veteran's Day. Thanks.

Peace My Brother

Thanks for taking the brunt of the state for the good of us all.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

He

did a great interview! Stay strong Adam.

The creation, production and fair exchange of values is the business of evolving consciousness, love and life.--Craig Johnson

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Adam starts about 1:21:40

Adam: what does it say about a government that sends more people to get an activist than Ben-laden. (1:40:00)

People's Common Law Grand Jury, Jury Nullification! Use them!

Time to sue corrupt bureaucrats PERSONALLY the the People's Common Law Grand Jury if they fail to do their jobs. We all need to learn about this process and do our duty to keep govt in line. Take back our courts through jury nullification.

http://nationallibertyalliance.org/pages/registration.html
http://1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/jury.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeplTS49eKg Dean Clifford - Courtroom Procedure & Jurisdiction – Full
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XnVqSNV3Aw&feature=youtu.be "Good jurors nullify bad laws" - Campaign to promote jury nullification
http://fija.org/ Fully Informed Jury Association
http://disinfo.com/2010/03/juries-are-allowed-to-judge-the-l...
http://www.lawfulpath.com/index.php?p=Reading-Room&i=0#tactics
"Reaffirmation of Oath of Office, by (original author unknown) revised by Gregory Allan (4K)
Hold Public Servants to their oath, or make them pay the price. It basically asks them to sign a contract to make you one of the people to whom they have sworn an oath. No one will ever sign this, but showing it to them and asking them to sign it becomes evidence they have been put on notice."
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/ra-oath.shtml
http://nationallibertyalliance.org/jurist/docs/Seeking%20Inf...
"Grand Juries are the highest and most supreme power...So, if all political power resides within the People, and the People, sitting as Grand Jurors, have the ultimate control over all criminal matters and are free to indict whomsoever they will, including public officials, why propose Recalls of public officials?..e one and only way we will ever recover our country, and that is through our inherent power to establish Special Grand Juries." has the power to enforce law and remove people from office.

yeah

That'll work.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Two questions.

Two questions.
Why plead guilty? Why silent about it?
Wouldn't you at least want to make your case??? Hope and work for a nullifying jury selection?
There is some big missing part here.

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

If he went out like a martyr

If he went out like a martyr he woulda preserved his legacy, now hes trying to preserve his freedom from ptison.

Martyr for who?

People who have demanded a police state?
People who stand idly by because they are too afraid of their own government?
People who willingly surrender rights to their persons or property by voluntary acts of registration to place their persons or property under the protection of a state which is a member of the United States?

Adam does not need to be a martyr for any such people because they do not deserve one.

Has your home ever been raided?
Have you ever been assaulted by thugs in uniforms?
Has your property ever been stolen by thugs in uniforms?
Have you even been to jail?
Have you ever been placed in solitary confinement for three months or more?
Have you ever dealt with the uncertainties of the injustice system?

How many people commenting in this thread have any combination of such experiences?

Martyr? Legacy? He's still a young man.

What possible use is served by him staying in jail? Yes he's trying to preserve his freedom, he's a non-violent activist facing a criminal system. It's very difficult to have effect on the outside from the inside.

Plus it's unpleasant. It's not someplace you want to go or stay.

Certain common sense dictates at play here.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.