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Happy 6Th Daily P Au L Anniversary Promisekept

Just want to shout out an ALOHA and many more DP annivaries to you (((((Promisekept))))))

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Thanks Granger

Base commander....wow!

You write so well and make for a very interesting read the way you word things you paint a very good picture.

It's a knack I suppose.

Keep on .... and stay well, and thanks again!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

Perhaps the Sargent didn't know until mid-race

Perhaps part of that grief he gave him was from the frustration that he couldn't make him know just how close he was; to urge him on to what was within his easy grasp.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Sargents and coaches are there to raise standards

and do all in their power to get the best performances out of those they are charged to lead. When their charges fail to meet their potential or fall short of a record event, they look bad to their peers and senior officers. Of course, it meant more to them personally, than what Granger and you chose to do, but, oh, well, they didn't have a way to know, value, or honor what each of you did.

Sure, she had competed hard for the chance to likely beat her challenger in that event, but the memories of her first time at Boiling Pots may be sweeter now than what that race outcome might have meant to her coach and her back then.

Sure, the 20 yr. base record wasn't yours that day, though well within your unknowing grasp, but perhaps the compassionate moral support you gave to your fellow Marine meant more, in the long run, (no pun intended), than the grief your Sargent dumped on you. It may have made better men of both of you than beating some transient record.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Yes

I believe you are very correct on that.

I did my best that day even when I wasn't running like I was supposed to, and to ponder on that record...well, is just foolish pride.

I sum it up by saying that some things are just not meant to be!

Thanks for the kinds words Promisekept!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

It's good to appreciate their roles and disappointments

Granger's coach, and your Sargent, lost some bragging rights over what they had also worked hard at, in their respective roles. Obviously, your relationships with these key people might have been better remembered by everyone, had you both met the reasonable expectations they contributed to developing in you.

We must allow forgiveness to work when we disappoint ourselves and others. When we don't beat up on ourselves over what might have been, it helps restore the love that ought to be there, for all the good that we can find in those choices we made.

I would have tried, perhaps, to write a card, or even a short letter to either of them; edifying them, and appreciating the hard work they put out to bring me as far as they went, though missing the mark when ,(fill in the blank), happened. Since that's not possible now, I'd just release the guilt, and embrace the good within those choices.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Some of my best memories of the Big Island there

After graduating Radford, I stayed a few months in Hilo with friends who had an old plantation house on the edge of town. Once I learned of Boiling Pots, I was there as often as I could find a way. A visiting babe I met went with me the last time before we headed back to Oahu. It was a perfect day, no crowds and she looked so beautiful in that ideal setting. We were both familiar with the place and had time to really explore the falls and some of the lower pots, without the need to hurry like you.

She was going to stay near Waikiki before heading back to Kansas, I was going home to prepare for my move to California. We didn't make plans to see each other, but driving down Ala Wai Blvd., waiting at the intersection with Kapahulu, standing on the corner across the street, there she was! "Kara!!!", I shouted loud enough to get here attention and recognition and pulled over to see her and her gorgeous sister once more before heading our separate ways. I regret having lost touch with her after that.

Cutting school was necessary to furthering our education on how real life works, that school was never designed to give us; especially Hawaii government schools, eh? I have to believe that we probably crossed paths, or waves, there also, and if we tossed out some names we'd find folks we both know.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Yep

Simular thing happened to me.. in 76 I had a boyfriend who wound up going to school in Kyoto Japan and I decided to suprize him with a visit.. on my way there, of course I stopped in Oahu to see kama'ainas, and wound up getting a contract with Gypsy Norton and doing a bunch of promotionals. I was heading to an interveiw for a contract with a company representing coca-cola in Tokyo.. when who do I see? He looked like he had spent the last year camping at the Crater, and he was with his Mom who looked like she thought she was in Manhattan going to Tavern on the Green.. and I did not go to that interveiw.. we took off and camped in the Pali bamboo forests for a week.. which at the end he tells me that I am too materialistic.. so I showed him.. I donated everything to the ISCON temple, converted to Hindu and lived at the Hare Krishna compound for over three months.. until they informed me that Bhakta Kevin wanted to marry me and a marriage would be arranged for me.

Lucky for me, the ladies who lived next door had a childcare and I had gotten to know them, and so they let me move there and work until I could afford my ticket to New Orleans to see my folks.. and then I would up going to Key West.. My wardrobe for the most part of my life was bikinis.. how materialistic is that? You may have seen my picture on the cover of the Sandwich Island gazette.. or a number of promotional things.. LOL

Ya think ya mighta kinda overreacted just to "show him"?

It seems like a major turning point in your life hinged on a much smaller accusation of materialism, eh?

Did you know surf-contest winner, Bev Gerard?

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

No

I was making a lot of money and so I was spending a lot of money and I think I had gone materialistic, and none of the things I had did I need in that bamboo forest, and spiritually I had nothing going for me. I had no regrets what I did. We got together again while he was getting his master's, but eventually broke up for all the right reasons.

If it wasn't for hitch hiking I doubt I would have met Gerry Lopez.. I did not know Bev Gerard.

You didn't say

that you agreed with his assessment. It sound more like a terse response to his scorn that went further than you foresaw, until some awkward events, and helpful neighbors, made a way out to much better options.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

I didn't know

I was still a teen. My father was an Objectivist, my Mother did whatever my Father did.. I had no concept of spirituality at the time.. that was what other people did. So I took it as a turning point.. The Krishna's at the time to unspiritual me, seemed to be the most spiritual of them all (based on my materialistic veiw of their dress).. so I went there. It was very interesting experience, and to this day I make wonderful vegan Indian cuisine. :D

Of course

My parents were similar, so my spirituality was no deeper than what I learned in Sunday school, (which I went to on my own, but that's another story), and what I tried to figure out on my own. I had a shallow belief in astrology, kinda, but only because it seemed to present some observable personality patterns that I thought might offer some truths, but only vaguely.

I had to believe that God loved me enough to make a way for me to know that love in more than tangible ways. When I found what that love was in truth, it kept me in ways from going ways that I know, now, could have been disastrous; and helped me love and help others in satisfying ways that I believe others want, themselves; and enjoy helping others with.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Have

you ever checked out military brats? http://www.bratsourjourneyhome.com/

My dad gave me the book.. there's been a web page for over a decade.

I think you are bringing us a really interesting perspective that I never quite thought about before because though there was a chalpin I think religion was a divider among families, just as a matter of what the family did, not what our folks did when they were at work.

Many of us did not grow up in one place with the same Church all our lives, and many of us didn't know one Parent very well becasue they were on duty for months at a time.

You know, I see and hear news about Christian military, but it wasn't. It was socialism. Do you agree?

Military views on faith and family don't favor either well

The military mind-set, at least as I have seen it, compartmentalizes the serious disciplines and duties of military service above real faith and family values much of the time. Patterns of selective scripture readings for slanted emphasis, while purposely neglecting other parts, sadly, happens everywhere; but chaplains of true biblical conscience are rarer than in their field than almost any other professing Christian community.

Rather than write a lengthy piece, I thought I'd offer you a musical perspective that might help define my faith in other words.

When I Was Ready to Listen - Chuck Girard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P6KQ1L4LGA

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Hmmm

Bev Gerard
Chuck Girard.. seems both are versions of a popular cajun name.. interesting coinidense?

Very nice song: Chuck's got talent!

Here's a song for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzhF155uQ6c

I noticed the coincidence

When I was choosing that song, I didn't think about it, but posting it, I couldn't help notice. They're probably spelled the same, and they were both influential in my early faith perspectives.

Bev was a senior when I was a sophomore at Radford, and was a short, blonde, tough, little surfer girl who was known for her aggressive, multi-contest-winning love of her sport. She also had a heart for God that touched a lot of folks, me included. She had her challenges, but she knew her core and found her way in a highly peer-pressured, hard-partying sport; to rise above the scene and live free.

She reminded me a lot of an artist whose name and/or work you might recognize, Rick Griffin. About this same time, while a contributing graphic/comic artist at Surfer Magazine, he took a comic strip hero he created, Murph the Surf, through a charge of heart, mind, and soul towards God through Christ, that reflected what was happening in his life. A very controversial and gutsy thing to do; his art, already well-recognized took on a new dimension. http://selvedgeyard.com/2009/08/17/surf-60s-psychedelia-born... I got to meet him once through a mutual friend, and remember him as a great guy and brother, whose last motorcycle ride took him home too soon for all of us.

Chuck Girard was a major part of an early Christian band called, Love Song, that also emerged around this same time. I found their style and lyrics a refreshing change, as I was going through them same changes. It helped me to have music that expressed the role faith plays in making quality decisions, and pursuing growth toward what I believed God wanted to work inside of me. Here's my favorite cut from their first album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kyn9RbeoyA

Another incredibly talented brother who toured with Love Song as their lead guitarist, was Phil Keaggy. Here's a song by him I thought of you while listening to. Somebody Loves You - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDmg5TP_FIY

I loved the song you linked to. I hadn't heard her before, and those Jamaican scenes were reminiscent of our islands, also, eh?.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

(((((((Rick Griffin)))))))

Griffin had a huge influence on me. I have a copy of his Book of John.. And I remember reading about a Harley accident and a surfer's funeral. Maybe you knew the guy I had my first crush on..

He passed away at Waimea.. Mike Brennen

The name sounds familiar, but

I'm sure a phone book in Ireland would have a few pages full of Mike Brennens, eh? Not as many on Oahu, of course; but still, it's a maybe at best.

I have that same hard-bound, "Gospel of John", collaboration with pastor, Chuck Smith, who recently passed, and Rick's stellar illustrations.

Body-surfing at Waimea many times, I'd understand anyone's passing there. Those waves were the thickest I've ever seen anywhere because of the way the angle of the bay caught those big swells and focused that massive energy into a narrow channel, with boulders under the surfer's lineup and several major rocks standing tall in the body-surf zone!

Reflecting on the last thread we started this dialogue on, consider the words of this song to helps discern the true nature of what we're dealing with here and now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrCYL6ouV54

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

It's

It's not an easy song to discern.

Presently for me.. well it began on several levels, Bible Study going thriough the Gospel of Mark, we looked at the maps and I thought, "I would like to go to Israel and walked where Jesus walked". And I began to study Israel.

And then I heard Ron Paul say that Israel is our friend, so I began to look for reasons why. It was not easy. And then a light went on and I definately plant to go to Israel and the ME and do some research.

I am finding the most amazing things. But it's not a good topic for many people here who seem to have issues. I feel that it is all about love. God wants to feel LOVE, glory, hope, faith, life through us by, of and for his creation.

The King of kings verses the counterfeit king

Whether in the church, or political circles, undue influence is sought and given by counterfeit leaders who use stealth tactics to gain the trust of those they would steal, kill, and destroy. The Counterfeit king is a usurper who, for this period of world history, has a very high place minion serving his purposes from the oval office.

"And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." Luke 4:5-8

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

I may have seen you without knowing

For some male reason, I have a better memory of bikinis than of the faces that go with them; unless it's someone I know, of course.

The Krishna folks in the first video were among the acquaintances mentioned in the crater fest video you posted. As a new Christian, I often tried to peacefully talk with those who would reasonably present different views. I had some pre-Christian interactions with them also, so it was a great to compare the major shift in my own perceptions on knowing and loving God, and how they approached faith.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Picking up where we left off - video commentary

This video was an awesome find in that it showed a peaceful event with tens of thousands of island neighbors, mostly haoles, but fairly mixed, with virtually no visible police presence. It proved just how little they were necessary for this many folks to enjoy an event on this scale without any major disturbances, inside of Diamond Head Crater, with limited tunnel access and egress. Even with the amount of drugs available, there were more dehydrated folks seeking medical attention than for drug related distress. The cameraman even caught a shot of an ex-girlfriend's next boyfriend, causing me to compare our similar features back then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ob3FR1XhPM

Granger, thanks again for our dialog on the other thread. It was really great to connect and remember old times in da islands. Aloha kaua!

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

A few Hawaiian definitions

To help other DP readers who might wonder what my closing phrase at the end means; here is a Hawaiian dictionary post with what some phrases that apply, "aloha", to can express.

Aloha - Greetings, hello, good-bye,
affection, love
Aloha kakou - Aloha to all (including speaker)
Aloha kaua - Aloha to you (singular) and me
Aloha ke akua - God is love
Aloha nui loa - Much love, fondest regards
Aloha oe - Aloha to you (singular)
Aloha oukou - Aloha to all of you (plural)

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Wow! A DP Anniversary post for me!

Mahalo nui loa, sistah! I noticed the date, but didn't make anything of it except to myself. Much aloha to you too, for being kind enough to post this.

My gift to you is this beautiful video that will likely raise some "chicken-skin" memories. Keola Beamer, "Ku`u Home O Kahalau`u"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7NRf7LRLc4

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Double Wow! A front page placement!

It's nice to be somewhat loved every once in a while!

I love this community!
Thanks Dr. Paul, for the fruit of your good will and service that has helped make this site possible!
Thanks Michael for helping make such a wonderful place to celebrate and defend Liberty!

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass