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Snowden-level Breaking News: NSA-DHS has RealTime Voice Print Spy Grid! Seattle City Govt CONFIRMS!

"Everything you're doing, goes to the [DHS] Fusion Center!" - Anthony Gucciardi

Here's Seattle PD's official PR on this Spy Grid, aka. the "The Mesh System": This is what statist commies mean by 'We want free WiFi in our cities, NOW!'

SPD Discusses Privacy Features In Port Security System

http://youtu.be/MIg3We8iXbw
SPD Blotter
Published on Feb 4, 2013

Seattle Police Department Det. Monty Moss discusses privacy features built into city's Port Security/Wireless Mesh Network.

EXCLUSIVE: Snowden Level Documents Reveal Stealth DHS Spy Grid
Government documents obtained by Infowars expose massive DHS domestic spy grid designed to track citizens in real time through mega government databases.


Photos by Malcolm Smith

Anthony Gucciardi & Mikael Thalen
Infowars.com
November 12, 2013

Exclusive documents obtained by Infowars from an insider government source have revealed the true origin and nature of the highly secretive ‘mesh network’ spy grid that has garnered massive media attention due to the fact that the network’s strange downtown Seattle spy boxes can track the last 1,000 GPS locations of cellphone users. But as new documents reveal, the grid is far deeper than the media is telling you. The Seattle DHS spy system ultimately ties in with an enormous stealth database that acts as an intelligence hub for all of your personal data.

On page 55 of the “Port Security Video Surveillance System with Wireless Mesh Network” project document that we have obtained, a diagram reveals the system’s basic communication abilities in regards to the Port of Seattle that the DHS has refused to comment on despite funding with millions in taxpayer dollars:


DHS spy system’s basic communication abilities in regards to the Port of Seattle ‘mesh network’ tracking system.

The Infowars team is closely reviewing the document and will publish it in whole soon. More images seen in the extensive documentation:


A documented image of the actual spy system put in place, highlighted in the original document itself.


A further breakdown of the spy operation.

The wireless mesh network, which allows for private communication between wireless devices including cell phones and laptops, was built by California-based Aruba Networks, a major provider of next-generation mobile network access solutions.

DHS Funds Installation of White Boxes That Can Track Population of Entire City
Federal agency, police refuse to explain mesh network planned for “citywide deployment” in Seattle

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
November 12, 2013

UPDATE: EXCLUSIVE: Snowden Level Documents Reveal Stealth DHS Spy Grid

Strange new off-white boxes popping up in downtown Seattle use wi-fi networks that can record the last 1,000 locations of a person using their cellphone’s MAC address, but the Department of Homeland Security – which funded the network to the tune of $2.7 million dollars – has refused to address the nightmare privacy implications of a system that could lead to the permanent tracking of an entire city’s population.

A report by The Stranger, a weekly Seattle newspaper, exposes how the boxes, which are attached to utility poles and include vertical antennae, can track cellphones even if they are not connected to the system’s wi-fi network.

Aruba – the company that provided the boxes to the Seattle Police Department – brags in its technical literature about how the boxes can keep track of “rogue” or “unassociated” devices, in other words your cellphone even if you have refused to let the system access your device’s wi-fi component.

You Are a Rogue Device
A New Apparatus Capable of Spying on You Has Been Installed Throughout Downtown Seattle. Very Few Citizens Know What It Is, and Officials Don’t Want to Talk About It.

by Matt Fikse-Verkerk and Brendan Kiley
November 6, 2013


A WIRELESS ACCESS POINT (AP) HIGH ON A POLE What are these things for? SPD “is not comfortable answering policy questions when we do not yet have a policy.” Photos by Malcolm Smith

If you're walking around downtown Seattle, look up: You'll see off-white boxes, each one about a foot tall with vertical antennae, attached to utility poles. If you're walking around downtown while looking at a smartphone, you will probably see at least one—and more likely two or three—Wi-Fi networks named after intersections: "4th&Seneca," "4th&Union," "4th&University," and so on. That is how you can see the Seattle Police Department's new wireless mesh network, bought from a California-based company called Aruba Networks, whose clients include the Department of Defense, school districts in Canada, oil-mining interests in China, and telecommunications companies in Saudi Arabia.

The question is: How well can this mesh network see you?

How accurately can it geo-locate and track the movements of your phone, laptop, or any other wireless device by its MAC address (its "media access control address"—nothing to do with Macintosh—which is analogous to a device's thumbprint)? Can the network send that information to a database, allowing the SPD to reconstruct who was where at any given time, on any given day, without a warrant? Can the network see you now?

RELATED:

The Questions The Stranger Asked SPD That They Declined to Answer

by Matt Fikse-Verkerk and Brendan Kiley
Nov 6, 2013

1. Aruba installations typically include the following software/OS and components. Which of these is the city of Seattle using (or planning to use) in the system?

- AirWave Management Platform (AMP)
- RAPIDS rogue identification
- Visual RF mapping module
- TotalWatch RF spectrum analyzer
- ALE Analytics and Location Engine (API)

2. What are some of the current and potential uses of the mesh network, besides transmitting video from cameras? (I know you've answered this at public meetings, but I wonder if the department has a specific operational protocol.)

3. Does the department use, or plan to use, the capability of the mesh network to geo-locate wireless devices (cell phones, laptops, anything with a MAC address)?

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UPDATE 1:

Seattle police have a wireless network that can track your every move

By David Ham
Posted: 8:09 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 7, 2013


Seattle Police Department announced it bought what's called a "mesh network" photo

SEATTLE — In February, the Seattle Police Department announced it bought what's called a "mesh network," that will be used as a dedicated wireless network for emergency responders. What SPD did not say is that the network is capable of tracking anyone with a device that has a Wi-Fi connection. "They now own a piece of equipment that has tracking capabilities so we think that they should be going to City Council and presenting a protocol for the whole network that says they won't be using it for surveillance purposes," said Jamela Debelak of the American Civil Liberties Union.

A spokesperson for Seattle Police said the network is not being used right now. A draft policy is being reviewed by the city attorney's office and will eventually go before the City Council.

The network includes 160 wireless access points that are mounted on poles across Seattle. Every time a device looks for a Wi-Fi signal and the access point recognizes it, it can store that data. The manufacturer of the network points out in a manual that the mesh network can store IP addresses, device types, applications used by the devices, current location, and historical location. This information can be stored and connected for the last 1,000 times a person is connected with a specific device. The network shows up online in public places usually as intersections in the city such as, "4th&Pike," "4th&University" and "3rd&Union."

New Mesh Network Surveillance Testing in Seattle Ready To Go
BoKnowsEntertainment


http://youtu.be/9fHYIfVqBrk
Published on Nov 12, 2013

"How do you like our spying now?" - New and improved wi-fi spy mesh network devices just for you US Inc. Citizen! Now in Seattle Washington, and coming soon to a place near you - real near.
Excerpts: You Are a Rogue Device
A New Apparatus Capable of Spying on You Has Been Installed Throughout Downtown Seattle. Very Few Citizens Know What It Is, and Officials Don't Want to Talk About It.

Seattle Police detective Monty Moss, one of the leaders of the mesh-network project—one part of a $2.7 million effort, paid for by the Department of Homeland Security—wrote in an e-mail that the department "is not comfortable answering policy questions when we do not yet have a policy."

Detective Moss also added that the mesh network would not be used for "surveillance purposes... without City Council's approval and the appropriate court authorization." Note that he didn't say the mesh network couldn't be used for the surveillance functions we asked about, only that it wouldn't—at least until certain people in power say it can. That's the equivalent of a "trust us" and a handshake.

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UPDATE 2: Actual .PDF document/purchase orders/program draft, via Scrbd.com:

Click here to download the document

“Port Security Video Surveillance System with Wireless Mesh Network” -
Seattle

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UPDATE 3:

Anthony Gucciardi (official contributor to InfoWars.com), to whom the Seattle City govt employee and/or contractor reached out to, in order to leak the said "Mesh Grid" related internal documents, summarizes the situation in an exclusive, special InfoWars Nightly News segment:

Gov. Documents Expose Massive Domestic Spying Operation

http://youtu.be/Ox7Cb--RqqY
TheAlexJonesChannel
Published on Nov 12, 2013

EXCLUSIVE: Snowden Level Documents Reveal Stealth DHS Spy Grid

Exclusive documents obtained by Infowars from an insider government source have revealed the true origin and nature of the highly secretive 'mesh network' spy grid that has garnered massive media attention due to the fact that the network's strange downtown Seattle spy boxes can track the last 1,000 GPS locations of cellphone users. But as new documents reveal, the grid is far deeper than the media is telling you. The Seattle DHS spy system ultimately ties in with an enormous stealth database that acts as an intelligence hub for all of your personal data.

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UPDATE 4: When, sometimes public pressure works; overnight, the Seattle PD declared publicly that they're "temporarily" shutting down the Mesh Grid...for now

Seattle Police Deactivate Wi-Fi Spy Grid After Privacy Outcry
SPD admit mesh network was never turned off after DHS testing phase

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
November 13, 2013

Following a privacy outcry concerning a wi-fi “mesh network” being installed in Seattle with DHS funding that has the capability of recording the last 1,000 locations of anyone in its vicinity, the Seattle Police Department announced last night that it is temporarily deactivating the network.

As we highlighted yesterday, the $2.7 million dollar system, a series of white wi-fi boxes affixed to utility poles with which authorities had planned to blanket the entire city, can track cellphones even if they are not connected to the network. The system can also collect a mobile user’s IP address, mobile device type, apps used, current location and even historical locations.

Infowars subsequently obtained documents from a government insider that revealed how the mesh network was far more than just a means of tracking people’s locations, it was also linked with DHS fusion centers and collected a “wealth of information” from the cellphones of people in the coverage area.

The Seattle Police Department responded to the controversy by announcing that it will temporarily deactivate the network, which was rushed through the Seattle City Council with virtually no oversight, and allow public scrutiny of the system before proceeding.

“The wireless mesh network will be deactivated until city council approves a draft policy and until there’s an opportunity for vigorous public debate,” SPD spokesperson Sgt. Sean Whitcomb said last night, adding that turning off the system involves, “a little more than just flipping a switch.”

“Our position is that the technology is the technology,” Whitcomb added, “but we want to make sure that we have safeguards and policies in place so people with legitimate privacy concerns aren’t worried about how it’s being used.”

Whitcomb dubiously asserted that the network was “operational without being operated” because police had switched on the network for DHS grant-mandated testing and then forgot to turn it off again.

The Seattle Police Department Disables Its Mesh Network (the New Apparatus Capable of Spying on You)

Posted by Brendan Kiley on Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:42 PM


PHOTO: Malcolm Smith

The Seattle Police Department just announced that it has begun the process of deactivating its wireless mesh network, a powerful tool for sending vast amounts of data that also has powerful surveillance potential. In theory, the network (built by a California-based company called Aruba Networks) could track and indefinitely log the movements of any wireless device with a MAC address (phones, laptops, tablets) that moves through its coverage area.

The possibility of a police department creating a historical digital map of the city, or using such a system for real-time locating of individuals, without governmental or civilian oversight has some serious implications.

The mesh network, as The Stranger reported this week, was quietly purchased with grant money from the Department of Homeland Security and whisked through the Seattle City Council without any serious process of review and approval.

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UPDATE 5: Seattle City Govt & PD to its 'peons': PSYCH!

Local Seattle user confirms, the Seattle PD govt terrorists are lying through their teeth; despite announcing that they "temporarily" shut the Mesh Grid down, they NEVER did:

Guess in governmentese-speak, "temporary" actually means 'for the duration of a press conference, or the time it takes to read off a PR propaganda press release.'

Ah... these 'lovable' degenerate fascist govt terrorists bastards; still spying, according to a Seattle-metro Reddit user:

So I went to Downtown Seattle today, November 13, 2013 (self.conspiracy)

submitted 18 hours ago by guitarrr

There were claims that the new Police Department wifi mesh was 'deactivated', but as of today it remains active.

Here are examples taken today: pic of 2nd & Cherry and screenshot of the next street's access point.

Seattle Wi-Fi Spy Network Has NOT Been Deactivated
White boxes still broadcasting signal day after police promised to switch them off

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
November 14, 2013

Despite claims by the Seattle Police Department that a wi-fi mesh network which had the capability to store an individual’s last 1,000 locations via their cellphone had been deactivated in response to a privacy outcry, the network still appears to be active.

On Tuesday, the SPD announced that Police Chief Jim Pugel had given the order to deactivate the network. However, as of Wednesday afternoon at 4pm, it was still very much active.

A Reddit user posted the image above of the white wi-fi hub located at 2nd & Cherry. While no one expects the SPD to remove all the boxes within 24 hours, authorities did promise to switch off the network.

That clearly hasn’t happened since, as the screenshot below shows, the wi-fi hubs are still broadcasting a signal, giving them the capability to track the location of every cellphone in the vicinity even if it is not connected to the network.

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Very wrong on one thing

"This is what statist commies mean by 'We want free WiFi in our cities, NOW!'"

No, people want municipal wi-fi in inner-city areas where ISPs are unwilling to lower prices into an affordable range for the poor. You're creating a straw man and then claiming those "commies" want to be spied on--but no one wants that. That's fucking retarded to think anyone wants to be spied on.. a disney fairy tale. Municipal wi-fi is possible without our government spying on us, but first we'd need some semblance of control over our government, which we don't have.

right, because I live in the unicorn world

where you'll EVER actually have "control over our government" and when people ask for 'free' things, and by some perchance get it, there will be no strings attached.

because you know what? That, would be: "fucking retarded...a disney fairy tale."

CLEARLY, I wasn't implying that people actually WANT to be spied on (clearly, sarcasm was lost in translation).

Frankly I shouldn't even have to explain this part to anyone on DailyPaul (if you're actually economically aware, and are aware of the common strain of economic baseline understanding among most libertarians and conservatives here on DailyPaul), but the point was: SPYING, IS what you end up with, regardless, inevitably, with corporatist 'govt WiFi.'

There are NO 'free' lunches.

Or, are you really not aware of this self-evident reality, yet?

yes, like 'that' "strawman"??

Think you need a crash course on econ and a real, reality check:

No, people want municipal wi-fi in inner-city areas where ISPs are unwilling to lower prices into an affordable range for the poor.

Now, granted: I would not disagree with you that we already have de facto and de jure corporatist monopolies; in fact ALL telecommunications companies as it exist today, are corporatist monopolies (to varying degrees, as there are still small 'independent' ones, but even they still have to 'rent out' larger carrier's bandwidth).

But to argue that ISPs are "unwilling to lower prices into an affordable range" is a facetious econ argument.

Even in the poorest of areas of any major metropolis (if you are in fact referring to 'those' "inner cities"), prices are set NOT by block by block, but by regions and sometimes, your individual credit ratings. I could guarantee you that, that's the case; I should know, I lived in one: Brooklyn NYC.

And no, wasn't Prospect or Brooklyn Heights: I actually lived in the 'Hood.'

The ISP packages offered there were/are uniformly same, be they in Clinton Hill, Green Point, Bed-Stuy, or whether you live in the projects or renovated gentrified brownstones IN the same area of those parts of Brooklyn.

Now, if you're making the argument that 'ISPs are unwilling to lower prices' in wasteland that's become of Detroit? That's a wholly other issue.

Then again, we now have 3G and 4G wireless; I've NEVER gone to even 'warzones' in America where there isn't a large percentage of population WITHOUT WiFi on their smartphones. Plus, ever heard of public libraries?

Go ahead: advocate for "Municipal WiFi" and see what you get.

UNLESS it's started, managed by some truly well-meaning, benevolent NGO without any intelligence community ties, or degenerate Rockefeller funded sister foundations ties, running on Linux or Ubuntu or any other open-source backbone, voluntary donation funded service, NOT based on tax-thievery, you're NEVER gonna get 'free' lunch, with no strings attached.

Yeah, talk about "disney fairy tale."

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

You think municipal wifi is "corporatist"?

You don't think we can have control over our government? Then why are you here? To writhe and complain and see others through to their fates as hapless victims? As for how you mentioned people "want" to be spied on, you're right, you weren't implying it--you flat out said it. You shouldn't be mad at me because *you* said something untrue. Even where you were joking, the joke itself is meaningless.

SPYING, IS what you end up with, regardless, inevitably
The internet's been around for two decades, and you're already throwing up a white flag, telling all that any instance of web traffic without ground-up surveillance is "impossible"? Do you have a crystal ball or are you grabbing axioms out of thin air based on how you want the world to be? On the matter of spying, corporations will always bow to the government if asked to cooperate, expecting reprieve like they saw back in 2006 with congress' retroactive immunity vote. Municipal wi-fi in the worst case is then effectively no different or worse than corporations doing it.

That you'd call municipal wi-fi "corporatist" belies a severe lack of understanding of the topic, or maybe the definition of the word. It is corporations (ISPs) who are perennially against municipal wi-fi, arguing that that "corporations shouldn't have to compete with the government", like Verizon argued in 2006 in response to motions in Philadelphia that would institute municipal wi-fi. Verizon had their drones in the legislature rush through a bill to snuff it. Their puppet, then-governor Ed Randall, hastily signed the bill. Would a corporation like Verizon have such qualms with a "corporatist" (as you put it) concept? Do you really think corporations buy senators in states like Georgia to shoot down municipal wifi because such wifi is *corporatist*? How does that make any sense at all?

But to argue that ISPs are "unwilling to lower prices into an affordable range" is a facetious econ argument.... Now, if you're making the argument that 'ISPs are unwilling to lower prices' in wasteland that's become of Detroit? That's a wholly other issue.

You're rushing to make all these free-market arguments about broadband, but in your haste you're trampling over the fact that we do not have a functioning free market for broadband in this country. Most people in the country have at most two options for broadband. Many only have one. http://www.dailyyonder.com/broadband-speed-divide/2011/04/12...

Other countries' broadband speeds leave us in the dust because they've tried different approaches to force the sedentary players to lower prices--like Time Warner, for example, who is now rushing to compete with google fiber in places like San Antonio, Texas, even though its CEO claimed people "don't want gigabit internet", or like Verizon, who has claimed the exact same thing.
http://stopthecap.com/2013/02/28/time-warner-cable-verizon-i...

Did you seriously just call my argument facetious while shortly thereafter listing an example of where it is true? ISPs don't give a damn what people want or can afford because, in most cases, they don't even have to compete with one another. I'll show how in a second.

Even in the poorest of areas of any major metropolis (if you are in fact referring to 'those' "inner cities"), prices are set NOT by block by block
On the contrary, in cases like we saw here in southern California, when an ISP collapses (as Adelphia did last decade), its competition (Time Warner and Comcast) gobbles up the former subscribers and arranges them into a patchwork to ensure they will not need to compete. What free market? You mean ISPs collude?! No wai.

or degenerate Rockefeller funded sister foundations ties

XFD It's ironic you'd mention the Rockefellers, because it is actually a Rockefeller (albeit one not running for re-election senate next year) who is now pushing legislation to limit ISPs' capability to throttle web trafic to sites like youtube and netflix, or give special treatment to traffic for their own services. Does that sound like a "free lunch" to you?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/bill-would-make-i...

In the past Jay Rockefeller has also defended the FCC's network neutrality rules:
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/183831-r...

For the record, I generally won't trust a Rockefeller and I find it insulting one would be in politics, but this one has been an ally of network neutrality, which we direly need.

We agree on much else--I too think Hastings was murdered for example--but if the species will be around for much longer, the internet has a future that exists outside of the crumbling US empire, therefore it's foolish to make hasty statements about its future when it is still in its infancy.

Hey look the Seattle Liberals

Hey look the Seattle Liberals on the Daily Paul!
When will you admit that the Progressive Agenda is as bad as Hitler Germany?

Be Your Own Media!!!

jk

jk

Be Your Own Media!!!

disgusting and un-American

It is criminal that such a thing exists.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

We literally pay for our own

We literally pay for our own enslavement. We must cut the money off for all this surveillance. The only way the money will be cut off is with complete and total economic collapse.

yup, at some point, it becomes a duty, and a matter of

pure survival to STOP feedin' the beast with active 'peaceful' non-compliance and political tithing.

an individual choice to be sure, but eventually, all Americans will have to make that decision, for all this policestate grid to end.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Not only that:

"Called Janus, the program run by the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Agency (IARPA), "seeks to improve face recognition performance using representations developed from real-world video and images instead of from calibrated and constrained collections. During daily activities, people laugh, smile, frown, yawn and morph their faces into a broad variety of expressions. For each face, these expressions are formed from unique skeletal and musculature features that are similar through one's lifetime. Janus representations will exploit the full morphological dynamics of the face to enable better matching and faster retrieval."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/nation/2013/11/12/facial-recog...
>>>>>>>

Coming to a local police department near you!

These systems can also identify people by their gait...

'Suspicious behavior' can be identified by pinpointing changes in how someone walks, as demonstrated in this brief educational video:

http://youtu.be/ixNMUEhOtJY

It was probably the pandas.

As I posted to Cap

I'd like to know what the end game looks like...

yeah, combine that w/ all those local Govt & PD-based info-nodes

and you have a 'shake N' bake' high-tech realtime policestate grid that you can roll out in anytown America, and elsewhere; there's also an active move by local DHS-funded PD's to integrate CCTV camera systems in PRIVATE biz, to be directly hooked into the PD's central hub (particularly Austin PD Chief Acevedo; there's a video of him saying it somewhere)

don't know if people actually realize that one of THE largest manufacturer of traffic lights/cameras & telemetry in America (80% 'marketshare'!!!), is Lockheed-Martin. Like, gee...why is one of the biggest military industrial complex contractors in the traffic light biz?

USA Today: Motorists race to challenge red-light cameras

Lockheed Martin IMS owns and operates 80% of red-light cameras across the country.

By Valerie Alvord, Special to USA TODAY
07/06/2001 - Updated 10:43 AM ET

SAN DIEGO — The camera doesn't lie, or so they say. But attorney Arthur Tait and more than 300 clients have gone to court to prove that, at least in California, cameras can lie.

Their cases are drawing attention to law enforcement's war against drivers who run red lights.

Every day, cameras catch thousands of people in 60 jurisdictions across the USA as they speed through red lights. In San Diego alone, more than 60,000 traffic tickets are issued each year from the cameras at 19 intersections.

Studies consistently show wide public support across the USA for camera enforcement at intersections. Running traffic lights, police point out, is extremely dangerous. Lockheed Martin IMS owns and operates 80% of red-light cameras across the country. And there's a waiting list of communities asking for cameras to be installed because demand for them is high.

Revenue Drives Red Light Cameras, Not Safety

July 2001

Skrum continued, "I find it very revealing that Lockheed Martin, one of the biggest manufacturers of red light cameras in the U.S., has included clauses in their contracts that prohibit city engineers from applying engineering practices that improve compliance and reduce accidents, apparently to maintain the flow of ticket camera revenue. Lockheed Martin specifically prohibits cities, such as San Diego, California, from changing the timing of yellow lights in intersections that host their cameras, even though increasing the yellow light time has proven to dramatically decrease red light violations.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I'd like to know

what the end game is...

it's Tuesday; like everyday: to fully dominate, and...

to try to take over the world!!!

er...wait, "try"?? Na, they already took over the world!

Well, then, then, then... do it again, for Tuesday! Yay! xD

http://youtu.be/MHn0pBePN7I

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

narf...

:)

It was probably the pandas.

"race to challenge"...

snarf.

It was probably the pandas.

yeah, apparently those motorists in 2001

never heard of TRAPWIRE.

Snarf Snarf, indeed:

http://youtu.be/TbcvdmS6yOI

or... the O.G. Snarf Snarf:

http://youtu.be/IO3ZbQiGNkk

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Did you ever consider that perhaps those white boxes are

decorative?

In Green Bay we have 'park in the art' wrought-iron sculptures that you can lock your bike to. Maybe these white boxes are some kind of avante-garde art installation. Tacky? Perhaps. But what isn't these days?

It was probably the pandas.

yes Chris, avante-garde "street art"

was exactly what I was thinking too, when I saw those corporatist govt cherrypickers installing those boxes...

or, seeing as how some human interplay is involved, wouldn't that more accurately be called, "performance art?"

Then again, I call govt a "performance art," 'cause you know: it's all performance and art. They're all actors: as in, just emotive enough to get a rise, but not actually do anything in reality, nor accomplish anything that's relevant or lasts, for that matter.

xD

PS. actually I take that last part back; what they do, does last: they leave us with shiit and wasteland, kinda like Mötley Crüe's hotel room in the 80's after a drunken drug and ho binge.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

counter

culture...

It was probably the pandas.

no baby, it's

counter-couture .D

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Collecting is a form of mania. I collect stamps.

Some people collect baseball cards. The DHS collects phone calls. And they're looking to fill in the missing spaces in their collection. They are willing to pay up to full catalog value for fine/very fine specimens, or will trade. Partial sets of emails and text messages are also highly sought.

:)

It was probably the pandas.

Yes, Chris,

we all know that you always were a 'maniac;' a liberty maniac with Onion funnybones: the best kind .)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Amendment IV {4}

The right of {ALL} the people to be secure in their persons, papers , and effects {personal property}
against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall NOT be violated...etc. etc.

What happened to;Innocent until PROVEN guilty ???

beesting

This is dated

This is from February 2013. I recall reading front page that the City of Seattle sidelined the cameras over public uproar.

And they train kids and people to not complain in school.....to obey....and comply....who would have thought the people of Seattle had it in them to put a stop to the Orwellian state. I mean I am surprised, the last time I went to Seattle the men were wearing dresses.

Be Your Own Media!!!

yes, the SPD's official PR is from Feb., as also CLEARLY dated

in the YouTube video, but the crux of this thread is about the leaked official internal document to InfoWars.com/StoryLeak.com that outlines the grid being integrated into DHS/NSA grid.

it's all there, if you read through/between it; read all their local news reports (The Stranger & KIRO local TV news) on the new "Mesh Grid" revelations and growing calls for public inquiry into it: they're ALL from this month.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

What is clear in Seattle is

What is clear in Seattle is the fake billionaires and the corporate greed and class destruction caused by these corporations. Pick your poison, Microbaby or Googlefu. These aren't businesses. These are trojan horses for capitalism and equality.
I'd be ashamed to work for either or. Early on it would be easy to be envious of the 35 year old millionaires, and their Ferraris and Lambourginis and Vipers....but then you realize it is all a facade, people willing to sell the rest out for a quick buck.

And they call this innovation? I call it a sickening contractual agreement that violates the US Constitution, namely the 4th, but much of 1-10.

Be Your Own Media!!!

Does anyone remember that X-Files episode

Does anyone remember that X-Files episode where someone is watching everything that Scully does. "They" are watching her in her house, on the street, everywhere. And it's freaking her out. Of course Mulder has to find her when she goes missing. I've been trying to find that episode on Youtube for a few years now and haven't been able to find it. If anyone knows where that episode is, I'd love to see it again.

was it S06E18 "Milagro"??

I do recall this particular episode, because I've always wondered why John Hawkes, an excellent intense actor who co-starred with Jennifer Lawrence in Winter's Bone never truly had a great lead role, and remembered him in X-Files.

From my recollection, while the episode wasn't about 'The Powers That Be' spying on Scully, but was about a nextdoor neighbor played by Hawkes spying on her:

The X-Files: Season 6, Episode 18 Milagro (18 Apr. 1999)

"The X Files" Milagro (original title)
TV Episode - 60 min - Drama | Mystery | Sci-Fi
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Plot Summary:

An introverted writer, Philip Padgett, develops an obsession with Scully and moves into Mulder's building in order to be closer to her. Inspired by her, Padgett writes his magnum opus: a story of secret love and serial murder, featuring Scully and Padgett as main characters. However, the murders in his story begin occurring exactly as written. As he struggles to finish his novel, Padgett realizes that only Scully's death can produce the perfect ending. - Written by NietzscheMarlowe

Mulder and Scully are on a case involving murder victims whose hearts have apparently been removed by hand. The new next-door neighbor of Mulder has an infatuation with Agent Scully. He is a writer, and the agents find that the novel he is currently writing includes Scully and suspiciously mirrors the gruesome murders that they are investigating. - Written by Muldernscully

Director: Kim Manners
Writers: Chris Carter (creator), Chris Carter (teleplay), 2 more
Stars: David Duchovny, Gillian Anderson, John Hawkes

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

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