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Never been a "truther"...

But I just watched this multi-part series that details physical evidence that contradicts the government's 911 story and I wanted to share:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmD5BDyMRkg&list=PLEA05F393EC...

Fascinating.

How can any of this information be used to further the cause of individual liberty?



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welcome

welcome to the club , now wake the hell up and use discernment!

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

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The missing link:

Structural evidence of explosives or thermate dismantling of the buildings.
Think! You can't cut up a building in order to bring it down and NOT have structural evidence of that artificial dismantling. With all the alleged massive explosions and use of thermate, the structural evidence of cut members would be prolific!
I've asked repeatedly the past year for structural evidence and nothing credible has been produced. How do you think that will hold up in a court or investigative panel?
I have spent hours and hours viewing video and and photos of structural remains, and every bit of structural evidence shows the buildings broke apart at their connections, with zero evidence of being cut or exploded.
Bones don't lie. Until clear structural evidence of CD is produced, there is no case.

Undo what Wilson did

With all of the evidence that is out now...

how could any thinking American believe the official story of what happened on 9/11? Even if you allow for the hijacking of the planes by Muslim "terrorists" that still would not account for ALL of the other things that took place that day that nobody has ever had an explanation for. Sorry. I've done way too much research on this to believe the "official" story. It's fairy tale.

Muslims destroyed the World Trade Center

Muslims who hate America destroyed the world trade center. Period.

You are a fool.

Period.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Wow great reply

All the evidence points to Muslims murdering US citizens.

The more I listen to truthers the dumber the arguments. "Falling objects can't accelerate", "steel building do not collapse when on fire", "collapsing floors in a building sound like explosions therefore they are definitely explosions".

Aside from the muslims trying to deflect anger over 9/11, I can't believe there are that many uneducated people - but the stupid theories keep expanding.

inblack

inblack is funny , you should be a comedian dude!

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Lame

Your reply is.

Then why did America not

Then why did America not invade Saudi Arabia seeing as the vast majority of hijackers were from Saudi Arabia?

Official: 15 of 19 Sept. 11 hijackers were Saudi

02/06/2002

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/02/06/saudi.htm

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — Saudi Arabia acknowledged for the first time that 15 of the Sept. 11 suicide hijackers were Saudi citizens, but said Wednesday that the oil-rich kingdom bears no responsibility for their actions.

---------------- full article linked above.

15 out of 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. So what did the USG do? Invade Afghanistan and Iraq!

If, "The Muslims did it," and 79 percent of them were from Saudi Arabia then why does your argument not hold water?

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Non Sequitur

Your argument does not hold water and is stupid. An illogical reaction does not change the original action. Effect cannot alter cause.

If I punch you in the face and you take revenge on my friend, it does not mean I did not punch you in the face.

If Bush used the crisis as an opportunity to attack Iraq, that does not change the facts either.

The US position was Afghanistan Taliban trained and harbored the terrorists. Maybe Bush was too far in bed with SA or he didn't want to risk the US oil supply.

The US has never properly reacted to Russian or Chinese aggression because they find it easier to pick and win fights with dirt countries.

Anyone who can watch this video of

...the demolition explosives going off, beginning at the top and loud as hell, and accelerating downward, and not know it was an inside job, is an idiot. Plain and simple.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Who

does that video indict? Who does that video put in prison?

I think the difference between me and truthers is I have no doubt the buildiungs were controlled demolition. WHO DOES THE NEWS INDICT?

I think I'm going to start researching who the truthers are (because I'm starting to get a picture, some truthers are genuin and many are not but have alterior motives and why they never advance but just show the same old vid, new angle.. and what their goal is beside watching controlled demolition adnausum..

It is the sound of floors collapsing

It is obviously the sound of the floors collapsing onto each other as they fall and build speed.

This whole truther stupidity is people in denial or trying to cover up the blatant islamist evil and hatred against the US.

9/11 is what Islam did. Murder and terror.

They can't fall on each other and build up speed

Gravity, it's not just a good idea, it's the law.

Yes and gravity is an Acceleration

Acceleration means an increase in speed.

So yes they can fall on each other and build up speed, that is exactly what you would expect, if you understood physics.

If one floor hits another floor, I believe that is what you are

referring to, then that floor as it hits a lower floor would be a deceleration, not an acceleration. For each action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The floors create resistance so the building cannot free fall against the resistance of the building structure, unless of course, explosives (or something) removed that resistance.

Think of it in a linear perspective. You are driving your car and you hit the parked car in front of you, do you accelerate or decelerate at the point of contact?

The car is not an analogy

The cars are not under acceleration.

Think of it this way.
1) First floor to fall starts from a stand still.
2) It accelerates toward the floor below it.
3) If it hits with enough force to break that one free, then yes it is slowed some, but is not starting from a dead stop.
4) Now two floors accelerate toward the next floor, they have at least twice the momentum to hit the third floor with and are slowed less.
5) Now the falling mass is increasing with every floor and is being slowed less with each floor it breaks through.

I'm not proving this is what happened, just saying this would be expected if the floors offered insufficient resistance to stop the momentum of the floors above. After a few floors of mass and speed had built up even a fully intact (unweakened) floor could not resist the momentum of the falling mass.

You just proved my point

From what I understand of the collapse, especially building 7, is that it collapsed at the speed of free fall, that can't happen if the floors offered any resistance whatsoever. Like you wrote in #3, "yes it slowed some", if it slowed some, that is slower than free fall. Some condition existed that removed the resistance of those 47 floors of concrete and steel.

those are the only two options?

Either people in denial or covering for islamic hatred? Give me a break.

Right. Floors collapsing sends out a concussive wave just like

an explosion. Moron. But there are just enough of you stupid enough to believe it to ruin the country. Sheep always outnumber men. Sheep.

See, the problem is floors don't collapse at free fall acceleration unless it is through thin air. 96,000 tons of steel is not thin air. Please take the stench of your ignorance and move to a totalitarian country of your liking.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Wrong

Floors collapsing send out waves like floors collapsing which is exactly the sound you hear on the video.

Moron.

Welcome to Daily Paul

If this film made you question, you will find SO much more in your research that answers the questions regarding the laws of physics, chemistry, gravity, aerodynamics, logic, etc that were all overturned on 9/11 (at least according to the official story)

Look at the buildings coming down. If you see explosions and not "melting", then you already disagree with the official story.

Good luck on your long road to truth.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

In light of what has happened

In light of what has happened since, every time I look back at the matter with more hindsight it becomes more and more clear that 9/11, sickeningly, was indeed an inside job.

Finished the series

Outstanding, except for the music skits.

+5

yeah the music videos were

out of place in such a scholarly presentation.

the opposite of a truther is a liar

In a nation run and owned by liars, truth is branded as bad. Drink your fluoride and read your spoon-fed 911 comic book propaganda. Then go work your slave job that never gets you ahead because the system is rigged against you. Oh the irony

Incorrect

Who does the controlled demolition vids speficially incriminate that can be fined and put in Guatameno?

I hope the truther vids encourage people to study engineering in all that interests them, but for me I don't see any convictions.. I don't see any justice, what I do see is a Culture of Hate.

I rarely post on Truther threads because it's Hate America blame Israel and from my take.. this was a globalists job and I doubt Bush or Guilianni knew anything.. how come truthers never mention the elected in NY?

Funny time-stamp, Granger, 11/13/13 -13:13!

I believe that I love true America, love true Israel, love true American Indians, love true Hawaiians, love true Africans, love true whomsoever is of good will, of every tribe and tongue.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention that I believe that true principles of history, multiple science disciplines, and time-honored mathematical traditions ought to weigh in heavily when considering the likely guilt or innocence of major crimes which some high placed folks ought to be Grand Juried of, eh?

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass