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Elon Musk. What kind of a name is that?

Sounds like a name out of an Ayn Rand novel.

- Dagny Taggart
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and Elon Musk.

MarketWatch just named him CEO of the year, as CEO of Tesla.


(Of course, we can't forget John Galt.)

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Elon Saves Taxpayers' Money...

Space Act Agreements also help keep wasteful government spending in check. These deals pay private contractors a fixed price for a project, rather than what's known as "cost-plus" reimbursement -- which pays the costs of a project, plus a fee on top. Cost-plus contracts create an incentive for companies to pad project costs as they go along.

"The game that [Boeing and Lockheed] play is to lowball the offer, then raise the costs after the contract has been won, and then play this game of doing the limbo where they try to raise the costs of the project right up to the threshold of cancellation," Musk said. "You create an incentive to maximize the cost. So the big government contractors really hate the fixed-price, milestone-based approach."


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#Crony I went to an event at the Texas SpaceX rocket location, Elon the owner was there. As was his buddy Senator John 'Crony' Cornyn, he was bragging about how he got all this federal funding for SpaceX, "to create jobs'. Musk stood there nodding like an idiot, while people ran up and worshiped him.

They had a bunch of body guards.

If you want a hero, look someplace else.

he is a hero

Elon put all his money into his companies and both SpaceX and Tesla nearly went bankrupt. He's a legit engineer. He doesn't risk other people's money like most entrepreneurs do.

You can't explore space solely from the private industry. Elon also rejected the standard cost plus model of government contracts which allowed contractors to inflate budgets unrestricted.

SpaceX also revolutionized how rockets are built. His first concept was just to donate $80 million to launch a greenhouse to Mars. He doesn't care about money, he cares about transforming industries and inspiring people.

The guy is a hero, bonafide. Is the structure of SpaceX something that violates the philosophies of John Locke?

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He's still a hero

He's done something no one else has done before.

He used government money, but who didn't? Going back to WWII, every major technology / technology company did. Texas Instruments, Hewlett Packard, Intel, IBM, Amazon, Microsoft - you name it.

None of those guys in those companies are heroes?

Not in my eyes.

Stolen money is stolen, I don't care if it is Obamacare or SpaceX.

see Davy Crockett's "Not yours to give" on youtube.

Where should I look then?

Ok. Thanks for the story.

So he's no Hank Reardon.

People are still going to worship him, though. He built an electric car!

Where should we look for heroes?

allegory - ˈalɪg(ə)ri/ - noun - 1. a story, poem, or picture which can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

How's it wrong to worship an

How's it wrong to worship an engineer who is revolutionizing industries? Doesn't it inspire kids to pursue STEM?

He didn't just "build an electric car". He did something no one else could do and in doing so, forced the auto companies to try do the same.

And let's not forget Solar City.

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Not my point

I am only pointing out that he is not Galt. Sure he is a genius!

But he gets Gov. money to fund his projects.

I live near his plant and I know all this, that's all.

Heros are in the mirror?

One of the 3 major contributors to the invention, construction, improvement, and then sale of Pay Pal wrote the book Pay Pal Wars.


The phrase "take over the world" was used in some form or another; I gave out my copy after I read it.

Elon Musk was able to challenge money monopoly powers and win.

Stepping from a method of gaining purchasing power by selling purchasing power, which was the example PayPal, the individual non-hero then went on to produce one of the most competitive automobiles in the world and he built those automobiles in California with a lot of help from many more coworkers or "employees," or "jobs" filled by people who are no longer employed elsewhere, or not at all.

Meanwhile the fuel used in those Electric cars can be produced at home where the people in those homes invest in Solar Panels which are also competitively installed by a company of people assembled into being by Elon Musk, that company being Solar City.

The non-hero also stepped up and began producing such low cost and high quality rocket motors that his company of assembled specialists and "workers" gained a place in the world wide rocket motor market; out performing "government" rocker motor producers.

When trading with "governments," if you have not yet figured it out, the people running the "government" insist upon the use of their "government" money, for some strange, but interesting, reason.


English or French


Don't feel too badly. My mother's surname sounds French but is English and my father's surname sounds Irish but is of English/Viking origin.

from the sound of it...

..my first guesses are Balkan, Slavic, or Inik.

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