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Liberal writer calls Daily Paul, Infowars part of a Billion Dollar Libertarian Media Empire

The funny thing is, he really believes that, and for good reason too. The establishment thinks every person reached is a certain dollar spent. They see the Daily Paul and our libertarian outlets getting massive amounts of visitors, so they assume we are spending massive amounts of money. I loved in For Liberty, Michael showed the DP headquarters... in his kitchen nook.

The article is a little nauseating to read through, but to me it is an unintended compliment to our movement. It's very clear he doesn't understand us at all. He even says, "Any traction they’ve achieved has little to do with these 'ideas'..." What?! I would say all of the traction we've gained has to do with the ideas.

I love the conclusion too, "If we simply let them win, these fanatics might learn the hard way how reliant they are on the state — possibly after they contract e coli from un-inspected beef. That would be a lovely irony to watch, if it didn’t come at too high a price. " Yeah, because the government never allows E. Coli to break out. And what part of our ideas says no one would inspect meat? Are we just stupid, and decide to eat anything because the government is not there to tell us what's good and what's bad.


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Lol yes we are a homogenous bunch

i remember sitting on the porch swing of my mansion house reminiscing about harvard. yup to be wealthy and a libertarian go hand in hand ALWAYS. yes the military directly out of high school is how all us wealthy kids like to roll.

lol i mean cmon wtf does he actually believe any of this? its like the exact opposite of what i did neo-con to libertarian if he thinks he was a "libertarian" or even libertarian'ish in his youth he needs a dictionary.

other than the white part he didn't describe me at all.

AND CMON NYSTROM im paying dues over here and your just sitting on a billion dollar empire cmon man not cool. can i borrow the dailypaul yacht?


Daily Paul

is the best! It is the only place I go to for news. The rest can chew on a noodle!

I could care less if they were rich or not.

Drivel or not

It's a catalyst for the conversation.

Exposure provides discussion.

Discussion produces awareness and change.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I

Oh, don't get me wrong. I agree with you in the fact that it is a good thing that we are even part of the conversation- controversial or not. They obviously think that we have enough momentum now that we could threaten the status quo. I was just merely pointing out how nauseous the article made me while I was reading through it. It was just plain ignorant, but I guess you'll have that; especially when you start to gain recognition. This is a good thing. Thanks for posting.

"The purpose of morality is to teach you, not to suffer and die, but to enjoy yourself and live." -Ayn Rand


That was my intention in posting.

The author's viewpoint I think is interchangeable with republican establishment's viewpoint. Just like most liberal ideas. So its good to understand how they're thinking.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

That was the most nauseating

That was the most nauseating drivel that I have read in quite a while. Clearly, the author of that article has not done any research of political theory or of the current political movement. What a boob.

"The purpose of morality is to teach you, not to suffer and die, but to enjoy yourself and live." -Ayn Rand

There was a time that I didn't know

how libertarians would handle food safety. Then I researched it and I knew. My first step wasn't to write an article announcing my ignorance.

Defend Liberty!

Food Safety

Maybe statists would knowingly poison their own customers, but sane people don't.

Freedom is my Worship Word!

I am fairly

certain he wrote the article based on what democrat insider children had to say about libertarians. 6 year old children. The author is probably their babysitter.

I Want My Cut of that Billion.

I've been a contributing journalist to Daily Paul Libertarian Media Empire for many years and I ain't seen a dime of that money.

I think from here on out, I'm

I think from here on out, I'm gonna reference the DP as The Daily Paul Libertarian Media Empire. I like the sound of that.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

I think you are correct..

I consider myself a Reagan constitutional conservative, and I ALSO consider much of libertarian (of the Ron/Rand Paul) variety as allies...

I am young, but don't really consider myself a libertarian since I DO disagree with them on a few issues, but on the issues of big-government conservatives, constitutionalists, libertarians, and right leaning moderates and others (even some Demos who though they have voted that way are personally "conservative").

We need a broad-based coalition to reject statism/progressivism/liberalism/socialism.

God Bless friend!




If the Primary last year was a fair contest, and Romney won fair and square, he'd be president right now. Instead, the old guard cheated, and went out of their way to stomp us out in the primary. That sealed their defeat. If we can just deal with people that aren't out to block us every step of the way, we can really make progress changing society for the better.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

...peace, love, & liberty, huh?, Who would of thunk it..........

I support the DAILY PAUL.

kind people rock


writer is being humiliated in the comments, always brings a smile to my face.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

This post itself discredits the Billion dollar media empire idea

I simply thought it was a good reply to his article, and it's been most viewed for the passed two hours. I must've paid Michael $20,000 for that to happen.

It is cool to think you could be getting $20,000 worth of readers though.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

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Just gave me an idea

Every time we see an article critical of Daily Paul, create a post about it, link to the article -- and also create a comment on the article, linking to the Daily Paul post.

That way we will increase readership, as well as informing us about the article.

Could even work with articles that don't mention the Daily Paul, but are liberty (or tyranny) related.

(As a programmer, I'm partial to doubly-linked lists.)

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Hahaha, IF only we had that

Hahaha, IF only we had that kinda money to spend, Ron Paul would have been president from having advertising 24/7.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

A thought comes to mind...

How unfortunate it is that we have to spend most of our energies fighting covert leftists in the Republican Party. It's vitally important work, don't get me wrong, but it sure is more satisfying to go after overt leftists, like this article's author.

To the conservative Republicans who are potentially sympathetic to our positions, but still view us with skepticism (thinking we're "secret liberals"), I say this: stop fighting us, and UNLEASH US against the left! We can actually articulate the philosophy on which your sound bites are loosely based. We'll TEAR THEM TO PIECES! Get behind our candidate in 2016, so that we can focus all our energy on demolishing the Democrat, and you'll be rapidly disabused of your skepticism toward us. Hell, when we're finished you might even feel bad for the Democrat.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Problem is...

Problem is, the right-wing has a strong correlation with the theocratic moralists, the bloodthirsty warmongers, and the white slavers who still haven't healed the "women are chattel property" imprint.

Freedom is my Worship Word!

It's so true too.

The only reason the GOP masses fought us so hard is because they bought into the idea that, Romney is the only one who can beat Obama, never mind that he is Obama. Pfff... How'd that work out?

If they just followed us and bucked the leadership, we would be destroying the democrats.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

"First they ignore you, then

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

Remember when one million

Remember when one million dollars could buy world safety???
Dudedudly do Dudedudly do Dudedudly do... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_76RK_5bBs
Doctor evil struggles with money supply issue and time travel;
Doctor Evil secret meeting about finance.

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.


He forgot to mention the part about how all 500 of us live in our parent's basements doing bongloads while voting in polls and posting on blogs with each of our 4,000 different email aliases!

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

I hope Michael makes a

I hope Michael makes a million dollars a day from the Daily Paul.

Obama would say, "You didn't build that.." the people did.

No they didn't. This website is the direct result of 1 single person who dared to create it.

I HOPE the owner of this website is making a profit, and could care less about how much that profit is. The more the merrier.

Do I expect to see a single penny? No, because I didn't build it, Michael Nystrom did. It's his business, and nobody else's.

A liberal has a problem with people making a profit.


Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Quoted from article

the people who hawk hysteria about debt hurting children typically ignore the fact that deficit spending can actually increase employment and our real output of goods and services. Every dollar added to the government deficit is a dollar that flows into the private and foreign sectors, where it can potentially be used for our economic needs.

I call this the economics of spontaneous generation: the belief that government can magically conjure additional resources out of thin air. That is, it completely ignores the fact that whatever government spends into one part of the private sector it necessarily has to have taken from another part of the private sector: whether by normal taxation, inflation, confiscation, or other means. See: Broken Window Fallacy

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Keynesian economics in a nutshell

I work as a detail draftsman at a "fabrication shop." We do welding and machining. On occasion I've quipped, "on one side of the shop, they take little pieces of metal and weld them together to make big pieces of metal, and on the other side, they cut up big pieces of metal into little pieces of metal." Nobody has laughed at my clever quip yet, BTW. Anyway, according to Keynesian economics, we could just schlep metal from one side of the shop to the other, cutting and welding, welding and cutting, and money would miraculously appear in the company bank account.

Freedom is my Worship Word!


I love how they say we don't understand monetary policy, and then go on to claim the government can't go broke because they can print infinite dollars. What if the dollar is no longer accepted? Wouldn't that make it worthless, and make the government broke?

They don't understand currency is only useful if their are resources to trade. They think currency is a resource in itself.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

"They think currency is a resource in itself" - exactly

And that belief of theirs suggests the following:

1. They obviously have given VERY LITTLE thought to the matter, since (I hope) anyone with an above-retardation level IQ could rapidly recognize the fallacy in that belief if they followed it to its logical conclusion: namely, we could all live the life of billionaires if the government simply printed a billion dollars for each of us. Or trillionaires, or quadrillionaires, etc.

2. Since they think government can conjure up wealth at will, they can't understand our objection to government action, except by attributing to us a desire to hurt the poor. In other words, in their minds the debate is not "can the government help or not," it's "should people be poor?" LOL....derpty derp derp derp

EDIT: Ah, lookee here

But my position, like all positions on the debt, is about morality, not arithmetic. Beneath the rhetoric of affordability, the question of whether we want to invest in infrastructure and promote full employment is truly a question of values.

See? That such government actions are helpful is simply assumed. He then frames the debate as being between those who want to help people and those who don't want to help people. Now, in some cases, I think leftists do this intentionally, dishonestly mischaracterizing their opponents; but in most cases they haven't a CLUE. The question of what's actually possible economically never blazed over their cortex for ten seconds in their entire life: it's all about their egalitarian FEELINGS. They're like children in that respect. Mom says "there's no more desert Billy, look, the plate's empty." Billy says "but I WANT it!" ...you can't argue with that, can you?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."