Friend of the Revolution And Ron Paul needs help!
Dennis Kucinich may be very wrong on domestic issues, but he is honest, and a good man. He is a friend of Dr. Paul and they work together on foreign policy issues. In addition, Kucinich has consistently agreed with Ron Paul on foreign policy and attempted to limit police actions and wars that had no merit.
During his presidential bid, they have started running a slew of candidates against him in his home state and are fighting to oust him from congress.
We need all the friends in Congress that we can get, even if we don't agree with them on everything. Honest people, with good hearts, and a desire to make things better are needed. We need allies!
In this context, I would ask that all maxed out donors to Ron Paul, chip in something/anything to the Kucinich campaign! Let them know where the money is coming from as well. I only suggest that you do this if you are already maxed out with Ron Paul. Or if you can spare a small amount like $10 that won't cut into your donations for Ron Paul.
Btw, I heard about his problems from a Kucinich supporter that is now with us! Kucinich people are coming over in droves (even had a few seated at the Florida debate) now that we are the only anti-war candidate. Let's return the favor and keep their man in Congress, and hope that they help get ours in the white house!
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yep...
And those likeable lefties can be persuaded. They just need to have the "no force" principle explained clearly... :)
oops. This was supposed to be a reply to a comment below on debating the likeable lefties.
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He cannot endorse Paul right now for 2 reasons:
1) it would kill Ron Paul in the primary
2) it would kill his own chance for a Democratic re-election.
The best he can do is to tell his supporters to go over to Ron Paul's campaign.
They are in the same position as we are. The media screwed both of us. A lot of Kucinich supporters are furious. And I have seen them say that they would never support Obama or Hillary. I have seen posts by them telling each other to vote for Edwards just to steal votes from Hillary / Obama.
Remember, in most states they cannot vote for Paul because they are Democrats.
After the primary (his and ours) he can come out for Paul.
We MUST support Kucinich because he is the ONLY person in Congress, other than Ron Paul, who has stood up against the Patriot Act, NAU, NAFTA, WTO etc. If he loses, Ron Paul is all alone, and that is very bad.
If you donate to his re-election, just make a point to mention that you are a Ron Paul supporter. That will eventually become known among his supporters, and even though we hate each other on economic and policy issues, at least we can put that aside for a while.
Remember, it is Ron Paul's message that matters and must live on. Every new supporter we can get on our side is a good thing.
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat meat!
I submit
Ya'll are making the case for what is correct in terms of political expediency in which case I agree. I'm just speaking for myself as an individual. I hate that truth can't be our guide rather than political pandering, I know, I know that's not how the world works. But it's how mine does.
Not to mention...
If we flex our muscle and show them that we will protect those who agree with us, and hurt those who don't, it will make the politicians more fearful in general.
Plus, who knows... Maybe we can get them to donate to our cause in appreciation... :)
I do understand your point, and I also wish we had 100+ Ron Paul's running for congress...
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I think Wolfe is right
Read Mike's lead article today on the front page. It's not left-right, it's force/peace. Both in foreign affairs and domestically. Dennis is a friend to the revolution.
Geez, don't you guys (who oppose this POV have likable lefty friends? Who else are ya gonna debate around the ol' wood stove?
Let's help Dennis out. Who knows, we might get some positive blowback!
Kucinich is not a TYPICAL politican
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwOgEZghrYM
This isn't what a typical politician does. watch this and see.
I'm for helping him out as well. I've got friends who are Kucinich supporters and he supports the constitution in the aspect of civil liberties which are important to me.
Politics needs a new face, period. And that face needs those changes that are heading in the right direction present when they get there.
Just my opinion.
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I'll send a hundred dollars
Right after he endorses RON PAUL.
lol...
He said he wanted him as VP(lol), openly supported him, etc... That is an endorsement. BUT a direct endorsement, we do NOT want right now. Kucinich endorsing us would kill us in a Republican primary.
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would hurt him too
might kill his congressional run to do that now --- He said he wanted him for VP---I think that's got to do it! He needs to be reelected.
The MSM would never report it
So it would have zero effect on the stupids. Untill He (Kucinich) endorses Paul he is just another politician more concerned with self and party preservation than he is with the truth.
Apparently...
You clearly have better judgment than Ron Paul who has known the man for years and calls him a man of integrity and principle. Oh, but that was just Ron Paul talking and why should we pay attention to his judgment on people?
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RP's too decent of a guy....
to point out someones faults directly, he always states what he agree's with about someone as opposed to direct personal attacks. That's in part why so many of us believe him, because not only is he the champion of the Constitution but also a man of virtue, honesty and compassion. If DK were as honest he'd have thrown his support to RP in an obvious manner. Don't get me wrong I like and respect DK.
That's my point... :)
We don't have to be 100% in line with the guy. He is clearly better than the rest of the crap on the hill. So I am not suggesting that we throw our lives behind DK, like we do for RP, but $10 or even a $100 bucks wouldn't kill us to see him stay in congress supporting many of the same things that we do.
If we win the white house, we will need allies in congress.
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Maybe, if I had more money than I knew what to do with
But I don't and so for me I view the world in these groups:
People who are stupid
People who make their living off the stupidity
People who support Ron Paul
Look at it this way
Kuchinich has integrity and he is against the establishment like Ron Paul. The establishment is trying to get rid of him locally, unless a Ron Paul supporter is running against him...give him our support.
gigione
Sorry
I know your heart is in the right place, but a man who wants to take my gun is a man who is acting to enslave my children. He gets nothing from me.
Bad
Wants to take my gun? thats bad! I haven't had one since the mid-60's but I might want one! Simple thought: yes, overly simple: NO!
The Japanese actually reconsidered their plan of coming ashore onto "The Land Of The Free And Home of The Brave" for this very reason: they would have "millions" of people to fight!
That is scare tactic...
He doesn't want to take anyone's guns as far as I know. It is just a statement about any Democrat as a kneejerk reaction from some.
But he DID oppose the Patriot Act from the beginning. He DID oppose the Military Commissions Act, he DID oppose the Invasion of Iraq. He DOES oppose corporatism.
He stands with RP on civil liberties and foreign policy. And I guarantee you, if the establishment is trying to out him, we will end up with another warmongering, anti-freedom person in congress. We do NOT need that.
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Hey!
I'm somewhat teasin' ya, I know about zero of him. Didn't see anything about guns though on that sight. Not yet anyway.
Cool... :)
He also wants us out of the UN, WTO, NAFTA... :) I am not pitching him really... I just think that it is important that we don't lose yet another ally in so many things to the corruption in Washington. If they manage to replace him, it will hurt the movement to getting rid of all of these things.
And you could always throw in a "but keep your hands off my guns" into the comment box when donating... :)
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Your children are already slaves...
The debtor is the slave of the lender. So unless you have no credit cards, no mortgage, no car loan, no taxes, your children are children of slaves and therefore slaves themselves.
As I said, he may not be right on domestic issues, but we need serious help with foreign policy right now.
Would you rather see him replaced with a warmongering democrat who ALSO wants to bans guns? So you would let the perfect be the enemy of the good....
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He is no friend of the
Revolution.
WAHOR!!
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And your justification for that statement is?
He has worked with Ron Paul numerous times to bring about the changes that we are trying to make happen. They are good friends and they both speak highly of one another.
Or do you think because he isn't right on every single issue, that he someone doesn't help us in congress?
How many people vote with Ron Paul? How many people spoke out from the beginning with Ron Paul? Not many, Kucinich was one.
His supporters are now coming over to us. Or are those votes not any good for you either because they are from Democrats?
It's not about party labels. And if you have to agree with someone on everything before you consider them a friend, you must be one lonely person.
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You are absolutely right about
You are absolutely right about this, wolfe. Dennis Kucinich losing his congressional seat would definitely be a tragic move in the wrong direction for Congress. There are certainly few candidates, but have you not heard Dr. Paul himself state that he would support Dennis and call him a friend? He is also OUR friend, as he is one of the lonely few who voted against funding the war, against the Patriot Act, and has some idea of the current crisis out country faces.
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