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What Happens when someone playing 'knockout' targets a CCW holder?

They get shot. Them getting shot puts fear into anyone thinking about playing that game in the future.


"Knockout; The object, target an innocent victim for no other reason than they are there, then sucker punch him or her.

But on this day in Lansing, there would be no punch. The teen-age attacker had a stun gun. He did not know his would-be victim was carrying a legally concealed pistol.

The teen lost the game."

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What Happens when someone playing 'knockout' targets a CCW


Answer: Game Over

God forgives always. Man forgives sometimes. But Nature never forgives.


Nice to see that those who give sympathy are shun upon at the Daily Paul. Great website with lots of sickos and crazies creeping about.

Look below at the comments that are down voted.

This is precisely what was called for.

The answer to "The Knock-out Game" is "Paul Kersey". Once a few of these young men have been shot, killed, and the word gets out that there are REAL consequences to acting yourself a fool, this game will disappear faster than cockroaches once the lights come on.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

And For Those Unfamiliar

..with that name?...Here he is:


"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

BRAVO!...To the shooter.

Wish I was on THAT jury.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

May Be a Felony, Depending on the Severity ?

That's what the news reporter said, and I can't believe it.

This is assault & battery. If someone fell and hit their head on the sidewalk they could be killed. This punk did it for 'fun' and only admitted to doing it "6 or 7" other times - I wonder what's the real number of people that he hurt.

And this predator only got a 1 year sentence ?

Citizens giving up their firearms . . . yeah, that's a great idea in this society and this degrading economy. After all, they're gonna assign a personal bodyguard to each of us - just like the 'elites' get. Right ?


Seriously though, it should be an automatic felony. Can't have these animals running loose, I mean a dog attacks and he's put down....a thug attacks and gets to rep that he served a year in jail.....it's f*cking street cred to these low life animals. I'll shoot them, but they won't have the chance to sneak that close to me cause I don't trust random animal thugs within about a 10 foot radius.

I have a legal question for those of you...

who might know. I was taught that you if you have to draw, you NEVER shoot someone only once! Military-types refer to this as a "double-tap". OK, so in the instance in the OP, the victim fired twice...and I'm assuming his attacker went down with 2 .40s in his ass...My question is this: What are the legal ramifications had the victim "finished" the threat? The boy is now down on the sidewalk...my personal feelings (sitting in my office chair, not at the scene) would be anger, and a desire to stand over this perp and shoot him again. In the eyes of the law is that murder? At the point where the kid is down, is he no longer a "threat"?
Mr. Zimmerman was much more patient than I would have been...he waited until his head was being bashed into the concrete sidewalk before he used his weapon. In this Knockout instance, how does the law view things?

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry


I guess just start off with a shot to the face? It'd be hard not too honestly.

Yeah, your question is a bit

Yeah, your question is a bit scarey, but instead of be-rating you like the last two repliers, I'll give you the answer...

In florida, once the "threat has been stopped" you are not allowed to "finish the job" as it were....

If the person you are firing upon is no longer able to attack you, and you walk up and shoot them, that makes YOU the aggressor...

If for some reason you wanted to "finish them" and you are well with in your legal rights for self-defense, make sure it's the first shot that does the job. Coming back to them after you have already disabled them would be 2nd degree murder.

Thanks for being forthright -

I do understand the attitude of those posters below...and I understand that my question is "scary"...but it could be a real scenario. If it had been me being attacked, I guess I would have the desire to remove this POS from society so he can't do it to someone else...we all know the system is broken and that prisons are just revolving doors. Did he learn his lesson? Hell no!! Once he gets out, he'll be stealing cars and robbing convenience stores in no time. Perhaps you'll call me a eugenics-lover, but I see no reason this kid should walk the earth.
My state has, in the past few years, adopted something like Florida's "Castle Law". Yes, I am licensed to carry and do all the time. I have no desire to shoot someone. The gun is merely a tool used to level the playing field during a life-threatening situation...one I have never had to experience, thankfully. I appreciate your answer, and it is the one I assumed...that had the guy in the OP story killed the kid with a 3rd shot after he was down, that would have been murder.

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Scary . . . you need to go back to CCW class

if you're currently licensed in your state. Really.

P.S. - a bit of friendly advice - don't seek legal advice on such important life & death matters as this, on an internet forum. I don't imagine that most people here are criminal attorneys licensed in your state. (And I won't even get into the moral issues with the way you stated your question. Scary.)


The perp in the OP story has no morals or morality...he is an animal and should be treated as such. No, I'm not a blood-thirsty loon...I just have zero tolerance for such behavior. The courts don't work. There is no such thing as prison reform...the kid will get out and do something awful in the future. I would view his demise as preventative. My Mom was almost killed by an as-yet uncaught attacker during a home-invasion. That guy will continue his pattern until caught or killed.
I understand your 'concern' over my views...but being politically correct and polite and patient is the major reason why we as a society have degenerated to the way things are now...carrying guns, burglar alarms, lock your doors and windows and worry about being accosted in the parking lot...it's time to set things back to 1955...when people had respect for one another. I say, and armed society is a polite society....kinda like Montana.

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Basically this. ^

Basically this. ^

This kid is not sorry, he is

This kid is not sorry, he is trying to save his own a$$. I would bet that his attorney had him write that apology. That kid is a predator, plain and simple. If he was truly sorry, he wouldn't have lied about "pulling out the stun gun to look at it". BS. Let the kid off now and he'll be trying the same sh!t to the next unfortunate victim.

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

Ill bet that he thinks twice and

has alot less pleasure doing it again. This is the exact example why the inocent have to be armed with at least the same armorment as the comon criminals. These sold out shill puppet pig politutions who want to grab everyons guns at the behest of their Rothschild crime overlords need to be the center of a few of these violent kid gang games


And on top of that...

After he gets out he'll get to rep about his 1 year in jail....just street cred for him....plus they probably don't mind prison all that much, vacation to them.

He is sorry that the guy he

He is sorry that the guy he attacked had a gun and that he was caught and charged.

Knockout is seriously a

Knockout is seriously a thing? What the hell is wrong with kids these days?

So, is this news,

or just spreading the virus?

I think I get your point.

But eventhough showing the whole 'knockout' thing on the news and TV makes it more popular to the dumb thugs....it also shows the reality to all the regular people that they better watch out for the wild animals running loose and be ready to put them down. I certainly don't want to watch it or show it to others, but it's a reality we might wanna accept and address (with a 9mm).

If anyone is interested, here

If anyone is interested, here is a link to the assailant Marvell "got stacks" Weaver's facebook

Quite the upstanding young and aspiring individual.

How about some historical

How about some historical context on young male behavior:


In other words, young males always have been exceedingly aggressive and I'd wager this is all having to do with animal survival behavior gone wrong.

young males have always been exceedingly aggressive....

Hmmmm, I think we were taught to not put your hands on anybody else....even the gangsters before wouldn't target innocent people and definitely wouldn't feel good about ruining their lives. They kept their aggression for each other....they even fought with hands instead of guns because their intent was not to kill. Of course there are exceptions.

What's your point . . . ?

'animal survival behavior gone wrong' - - -what does that even mean ?

Yes, there Are bad people out in the world.

I don't imagine most people wonder if the predator's 'survival behavior' went wrong as they lay hurt and dazed in the street.

The Stench of this Story

The stench of this story forwarded by the shills in the old-media is so utterly reminiscent of the fear spread in the 1960's in California, when young black men began to show up armed and witnessing arrests made by police, to wit became the Black Panther movement.

This FEAR was used as the excuse to enact strict gun laws in California, and has hence been repeated ad nauseam.

Reject FEAR, embrace LOVE for this is just yet another atttempt to keep the People divided and thus unfocused on the true problem, i.e. the STATE.


I don't see how these acts of violence would help justify the banning of guns....as a matter of fact it really promotes gun ownership in an indirect kinda way.

Plus I think this is a well justified fear of reality to have....if you were walking around in the wild of Alaska for example....would you have a fear of getting stuck out in the cold? Would you have a fear of a wild bear attacking you?

Of course their are fears we should be aware of and prepare for, then there are fears that drive the helpless sheeple into the arms of their wolf overlords.

IT is interesting to me

that in many of these stories...as in this one, people are not saying that this is a Black on White crime which it is...


The first victim in the video was black . .

or did you notice that.

The identity of the man who defended himself with his firearm was hidden, though he very well may be black.

This is about predators vs. innocent victims, no matter their color.

As far as I'm concerned, anyway.