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Preppers: How will my fellow American patriots communicate if/when SHTF, like an EMP?

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Scenario: Nuclear EMP goes off somewhere over continental US... President orders Martial Law declared, orders firearms be confiscated, food and medical supplies confiscated and redistributed... They start kicking in doors, taking resistors and certain 'targets' off to FEMA camps or wherever... Rumors that U.N. and/or foreign troops are behind some the raids... It looks like America will never be the same...

Considering we'd be under Martial Law, military communications technologies would be deployed to disrupt and compromise patriot/civilian communications.

So...

How do Patriots communicate in order to form a resistance and restore order in their neighborhoods and communities?

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What will we do when SHTF, my fellow patriotic, liberty-loving Americans?
How will patriots be able to communicate if there were, say, an EMP created by a nuclear blast at high altitude above North America?
Or a Banking 'glitch' and no one could spend money, buy food, energy, etc.?
What if they enact Martial Law, raiding homes, taking guns, taking people and families away to FEMA camps?
How will we organize, in order to assist our neighbor, or resist a takeover?
Or will it be every man/family/prepper group for themselves?

America, we NEED a plan, a basic concept of how to communicate immediately in this type of scenario.

Here is an interesting interview by Bob Powell interviewing a 'former' 'CIA' agent about this one possibility:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYvIiS9Mj_Q&feature=player_de...

If we face an 'enemy invasion' will we stand together, or fall alone?

I feel like America has no plan. The American People have no plan.

The banksters have plans.

The gov't has plans.

Why don't the people?

There's currently no "well regulated (citizens') militia necessary to security of a free state", that isn't just a reserve branch of the military. There is no apparatus for local militia/freedom groups to communicate nationally, to organize and mobilize...

So... big picture... not your personal 'bug-out' plan, but BIG-Picture... EMP, or "normal communications" shut down... What do we do?

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This EET thinks. People watch too much T.V.

Allot of people are going to be surprised when most electronics will still work just fine after an EMP attack. Once you find a power source that is, since the grid would be the first thing that temporarily failed.

If you are really paranoid and want to protect yourself? Then place your items in a Faraday cage; More commonly known as a: Metal Box. Or if your on a budget? Aluminum Foil will also work.

Reality VS Myths of EMP weapons. (Chapter 7)

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/ees/etsd/pes/pubs/ferc_Meta-R-320.pdf

How about traveling minstrels,

or barbershop quartets? It would be a great cover.....

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Smoke

Signals

The Answer is Out there.....

Finding it is some where else though....

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Regular radios. Only old

Regular radios. Only old semiconductors were fragile and were susceptible to an EMP. Cars will work, too. It will only affect the power grid. If you don't believe me and are really paranoid, then go buy some old vacuum tube radio equipment. Good luck with that. They suck power like a space heater, because they have heaters, so batteries won't last long.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

Institutionalized militia

Having a real militia operating as a legal institution within
your state and county is pretty key - there are many roadblocks
to individuals having appropriate weapons, communication gear
and medical supplies that a legal/organized militia should be able
to acquire far more readily.

Short of re-organizing your whole state militia, having a constitutional
sheriff and a sympathetic county commission would create a situation
where people could be deputized and organized as a sheriff's reserve.
These already exist in quite a few places for rescue assistance and/or
ceremonial and event security type functions - those could be expanded on,

And pay attention to Iran and Hezbollah - they have been having to
deal with the prospect of conventional attack by the US and/or Israel -
They dig lots of holes and dig them deep. And:

"...first indication of something amiss on the Israeli side already showed up on day three of the Lebanon War. Israeli commanders were certain, having cast an electronic blanket over South Lebanon jamming all Hezbollah communications and telephone networks, including even mobile phones. The IDF general staff were under the illusion that they had also knocked out the communication links between Hassan Nasrallah in Beirut and his local commanders in the combat zone. But they were wrong...

"The Iranian electronic engineers’ success proved such that, on Wednesday, Aug. 9, nearly four weeks into the war, Hezbollah’s communications networks were still operating at points only 500 meters from the Israeli border and in spite of repeated bomb strikes on its Al Manar television and Nour Radio studios in south Beirut, both stations remained on the air almost without interruption..."

http://defense-update.com/analysis/lebanon_war_1.htm

Carrier Pigeons!

Carrier Pigeons, of course!

I know what we won't be using..

In my earlier days here on the DP someone I trusted, and still posts here regularly, contacted me with some "secret" chat sight where it was explained to me that they had figured out a way to communicate by using a little flash drive looking thing that plugged into your usb. Of course this was only offered to people they "trusted", and after some thought I paid for mine, which was over $100. The money was paid through a website collecting donations to supposedly buy tires for patriots for Ron Paul. Of course there was never any more contact from this person, and I never received anything. So if you get one of these offers, no matter how much you may trust certain DP users, don't fall for it. Or at least look at it as a gamble, and don't send money you can't afford to throw in the trash. If I'm ever proven wrong by this person, I will gladly take my comments back.

Singing Telegrams via the Shetland Pony Express, sung by midgets

This will not only be the only way to communicate in the post-apocolypse new paradigm, but our only form of entertainment as well.

I will pay extra

if they yodel!

I was planning on using jive

I was planning on using jive talk.

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.

http://shadesofthomaspaine.blogexec.com

Also author of Stick it to the Man!

http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Man-Richard-Moyer/dp/1484036417

I speak jive

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Was thinking the same thing..

My only regret is that I have

My only regret is that I have but one upvote to give.

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.

http://shadesofthomaspaine.blogexec.com

Also author of Stick it to the Man!

http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Man-Richard-Moyer/dp/1484036417

HAM

The electronics shouldn't be to effected since they are not complicated and highly sophisticated.

Cute.

But seriously, get yourself a non-solid state version and you'll be fine. (that is, no ICs on board)

Sign language

My middle finger out the driver's window as I speed past all the stinking morons left alive, while shouting "I told you guys to harden your vehicles against EMP".
Get out of my way you Elffin Pelicans....

Why don't you SHARE how to do that?

If you have the know how educate us.

EMP-proof vehicles

http://debtreckoning.com/how-to-find-an-emp-proof-bug-out-ve...

Farraday cage for electronics: http://youtu.be/EoQZY1FtI3c

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

Thanks Betty

I thought he wanted to know how to do the sign language gesture.
I owe you...
Peace

styrofoam cups with yarn

We just tested it yesterday. It works!

Séamusín

Personal Experience

I was in Japan stationed at Misawa Air Base during the great 9.0 quake of March 2011. I personally felt the 9.0 magnitude quake rolling under my feet, and I personally witnessed the ravages of just such a natural disaster as you mention. If this tragedy had occurred in any other country other than Japan the entire world would've seen the worst of humanity as civil society suddenly goes dark. Luckily, Japan being probably the most civil, humble and modest industrial society on Earth, it did not delve into a Mad Max anything goes lawless nightmare. However, we cannot say the same about the United States. Unfortunately, we have something Japan does not which contributes greatly to our already crime stricken cities. Now, being a uniformed service member under contract to the US military to carry out my duties, I can tell you from personal first-hand experience, the only thing that kept us in uniform and following orders was the fact that we all knew that despite the great disaster we all just suffered, we all knew that Defense Financial Accounting Agency (DFAS) in Cleveland OH was still depositing a paycheck into our bank accounts and our immediate families and distant families in the US were still being taken care of. Couple that with the fact that the on-base Base Exchange kept track of all emergency purchases with IOU slips (I shit you not, they used IOU slips) and the charges were later payroll deducted from our accounts through DFAS. Now unfortunately here in the States, Wal-Mart will not be accepting IOU slips for emergency purchases. It WILL collapse into all out lawless hysteria. And with the guarantee of not being paid in advance nor retroactively, during an EMP or financial collapse you can count on every single police officer and military service member to be fending for no one except themselves and their family. Even the dumbest cop or soldier will drop their hat when they put 2 & 2 together and come to the conclusion they will not be compensated for their troubles and risk of trying to maintain order, especially when they have their own families to fend for. Cops may be real stupid, but even their kids will need to eat. Even their babies will need formula. It will be every man for himself. As I stood in the BX and watched active duty military members fighting over batteries it clicked in my head, an EMP or financial collapse will be nothing like you see in the movies or read in a book. Nobody has the slightest notion of what such a collapse will look like. Even in the Tom Cruise movie War of the Worlds the military was organized and ready to kick ass even under attack by space aliens. During a real life EMP or financial collapse, when even the military throw their hats to the ground and start slashing each other's throats for a can of peas to feed their starving infant children, you'll wish you were dead. No amount of prepping will suffice.

smoke signals

if you don't see or smell smoke coming from this chimney you know something has gone terribly wrong.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Localization

That is what I will be doing. I hope friends and family are prepared BUT I have been telling them to get things setup for YEARS and no one is doing it.

I have property in 2 different states, a 5th wheel that is our mobile home which can be moved wherever we need. I am working towards my garden/farm setups as well as proper passive defensive measures.

As far as being able to speak with people outside my immediate area. That would odds are only happen IF there is someone planning to take a trip ( from my city ) and going to or through a city where someone I would want to relay information to and give them a letter.

Other than that, I am not going to be focused on contacting anyone outside my immediate area. My family and friends know where we are and if they are in need then it will be up to them to try and get over here.

http://shelfsufficient.com - My site on getting my little family prepped for whatever might come our way.

http://growing-elite-marijuana.com - My site on growing marijuana

Morse code...

Anyone know anything about Morse Code?

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

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http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

Not gonna help much if the computer/internet is down...

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People should learn it.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

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PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

"Jammers, You Might As Well Give Up"

Here's another radio network which has been on shortwave for eons:

http://3950.net/category/liberty-net/