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The Rothschild empire is almost complete

The Rothschild family and the banking empire they control allows them to hoard incredible amounts of wealth and power.

In the year of 2000 there were eight countries without a Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Syria

It is not a coincidence that these countries are targeted by Western media, "diplomatic sanctions", and the Military-Industrial Complex. If a country does not have a Rothschild owned Central Bank yet, these are the steps involved in the placement.

The first step is to get them to accept an outrageous loans, which puts the country in debt of the Central Bank and under the control of the Rothschilds.

If that doesn't work, the leader of this particular country will be assassinated and a "more favorable" leader will be put into the position.

If the snipers bullet misses it's mark, the country will be invaded and have a Central Bank established with force all under the name of terrorism.

This process has claimed four of the countries on the list, while the other four are on the "permanent sanctions" list aka the "future conflict" list. Always remain vigilant whenever these countries are mentioned in any capacity by a talking head or a bureaucrat. Odds are they are trying to sell you a bank.




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The rest does not matter, really

because in the end all the Masonic Knighthood bankers in America are subservient to the the Archdiocese of NY and the Jesuit Superior General.

Whether Rothschild has a small stake or a large stack, it really matters not; it's detail. I am sure they have some stake though, as one of their representatives, Warburg was present on Jekyll Island in 1910.

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Of course they are, and the

Of course they are, and the moon is made of cheese. Please, all anyone has to do is provide actual, verifiable proof...thus far, none, absolutely none has been provided. All I have seen is conjecture, most of which is based on conspiracy theory websites that provide no actual veracity in sourcing.

How are you sure they have some stake? First, prove that there is a Masonic Knighthood of Bankers in America and that they are subservient to the Archdiocese of NY and the Jesuit Superior General. I find that odd, because historically Masonic Orders were generally considered Anti-Catholic.

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SMOM is a Masonic Order

From - "An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences," etc. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D., Thirty-Third Degree, Volume I, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925, Volume One, pp. 392-95:

"This Order, which at various times in the progress of its history received the names of Knights Hospitalers, Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of Rhodes, and lastly, Knights of Malta, was one of the most important of the religious and military orders of knighthood which sprang into existence during the Crusades which were instituted for the recovery of the Holy Land. It owes its origin to the Hospitalers of Jerusalem, that wholly religious and charitable Order which was established at Jerusalem, in 1048, by pious merchants of Amalfi for the succor of poor and distressed Latin pilgrims....

"The Organization of the Order in its days of prosperity was very complicated, partaking of both a monarchial and a republican character. Over all presided a Grand Master, who, although invested with extensive powers, was still controlled by the legislative action of the General Chapter....

"... There are now two bodies -- one Catholic and the other Protestant, but each repudiates the other....

"The degree of Knight of Malta is conferred in the United States as "an appendant Order" in a Commandery of Knights Templar[freemasonry]. There is a ritual attached to the degree, but very few are in possession of it, and it is generally communicated after the candidate has been created a Knights Templar...."

[end of quote]

I disagree, two different groups

The Knights Templar ended in 1312. The Freemasons have no real historical connection to them.

SMOM started as the Knights Hospitallers, separate from the historical Templars, all of this prior to the creation of Freemasonry by 400+ years.

SMOM is only interesting because it used to be a sovereign state over Malta and has observer status now in the UN, likely a source of conspiracy theories.

There's nothing Masonic about SMOM. And there's nothing evil about Freemasons. And both use exaggerated colorful histories.

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Knight Templar is a Freemasonic Degree

Knight Templar is one of the highest degrees Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

As the original Knights Templar moved to Scotland, they became Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

The Jesuit-usurped Papacy controls most branches of Freemasonry. As I have just shown, SMOM is a Masonic Order and so this is why all these "illuminati" kingpins are all Knights of Malta, 33rd degree Masons or both. Many are recruited from Jesuit Universities most notably Georgetown.

Not many know this.

Sure, according to their own

Sure, according to their own mythological history. Everything you write has been dreamed up decades ago and was plentiful in text files on BBSes and the Internet in the 1990s. 95% of it's false.

And having a Jesuit as a Pope seems to be a good thing.

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"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance"

-Albert Einstein

you are a skilled debater

So I take it you are an ex-Mason and ex-Jesuit and have personal, direct experience that serves as your evidence for your claims?

Or are your claims from speculative, grandiose, creative fiction dreamed up by questionable conspiracy theorists and religious fanatics?

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No, and one does not need that.

These are facts; looking at the backgrounds of the elites, one sees they are SMOM, Masons, or Jesuit trained. The Department of "Romeland" Security is a shining example:


http://youtu.be/9cSHxeap4jc

If you want the words of an ex-Jesuit look up the whistle-blowers Alberto Rivera and Edmond Paris.

Proves nothing.

It'd be odd if no one in high levels of government went to Georgetown or were Jesuits. There are 28 Jesuit colleges in the US alone.

Alberto Rivera is not that credible. According to him, the Jesuits are literally behind everything. And you do realize Jesuit-related conspiracy theories have been popular for 200+ years?

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What it prooves is you are willfully ignorant.

Cognitive dissonance doesn't have to be a bad thing; ideally it is used as a tool to hone one's knowledge.

If you feel the urge to try and discredit Rivera, go ahead and do so, but it does not change the fact that you are lying to yourself. Read ex-Jesuit French Journalist Edmond Paris's Secret History of the Jesuits. It is completely documented and 100% factual.

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The key ingredient of

The key ingredient of conspiracy theories is that they are either impossible or extremely difficult to actually prove therefore, in my mind, every single component of any conspiracy theory must be completely dismantled and examined in the light of actual evidence, real historical connections that can be verified. What I see in most of the people that heavily believe in conspiracy theories is almost a religious fervor over the theory, defending their theories with adamant zeal that is contrary to logic and reason.

There are, after all, so many conspiracy theories floating around, some of which carry with them validity, others however are simply irrational. The question that everyone should ask themselves is the rationality behind the theory and the actual connections that can be verified either directly or indirectly. The strange thing that I have witnessed, even here on the DP, is that people have become extremely emotionally connected with many theories and indeed seem to find a very strange degree of comfort in believing such theories. Now, when you take such emotionalism and the level of comfort these theories seem to provide to some people then the questions should arise why, why the deep and sometimes deepening emotional connection to these theories and why the level of comfort with them to the point that a person’s belief system becomes addicted to such theories, lending themselves to an increasing ease to just about any theory that they encounter. They reach a point where the can believe and the more they read the more a theory seems to be logical within that belief system such theories seem to create in people.

While I do believe there are conspiracies due to the nature of men, I do not believe in the numerous theories that seem to be popularized by a myriad of internet sources that rarely provide actual source information that can either be verified historically or that can be logically deduced through verifiable connections.

The idea that there is a group of people that have either the power or the wealth or the smarts to control the world is, from what I see, naïve, for the world, the global actions of billions of humans is ultimately beyond the control of anyone. While I do see groups of people exerting power, I see that power as fragmented, chaotic, unfocused and, in fact, usually there are power segments struggling with other power segments on the global front, both politically, socially and economically. Take the conspiracy theory about the Rothschilds, it’s popular, but hardly either logical or verifiable through either historical evidence or financial evidence. Besides, a greater threat is the governments of the world, particularly our own government and various agencies such as the NSA, the most powerful, the most secretive agency in the world and yet, it’s secrets were revealed and verified. Now, if such an agency can be exposed, surely if there were conspiracy theories that entailed global domination then there would be actual revelations that can be verified.

Granted, I do believe there are those, very powerful men, who would indeed love to see such control, but the more their grip seems to tighten the less they seem to control. There is a huge back-lash against centralization, nationalization and domination. If they had the power that some, even here on the DP, attribute to them, then they are not doing a very good job at global domination.

People who are so indoctrinated in numerous conspiracy theories, and most who adhere to one will most likely adhere to numerous others, that is the nature of such emotional connections to such theories, such people must have a villain to focus upon, or in the case of some theories they muster up several villains.

The incredible complexity of the world, with billions upon billions of humans, acting primarily in their own self-interests are beyond actual control and when confronted with massive control will usually either find work-a-rounds to subvert such control, or will rebel and there is nothing that people in power fear more than revolution because it is uncontrollable, the outcome is never certain and in most cases, the heads of those who seek to bring massive control over people usually are stuck on pikes.

I dare say there is no big picture and no one controlling it…I see groups striving for control, but throughout history no only has ever been able to make it work, nor will they be able to do so. I see so may mistakes in the realms of power, so many missteps, so many unintended consequences…so many screw-ups made by those who seek to broker their power beyond a defined sphere of control.

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Cool, I will read it. I'm

Cool, I will read it. I'm not a fan of the Jesuits nor the Vatican. I know they've been quite corrupt in the past.

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Absolutely Incorrect

Please read page 87-
http://mises.org/books/menofwealth.pdf

No offense but I read the quote you cited 15+ years ago. It's wrong. And Eustace Mullins was an antisemite. I knew a mutual friend of his.

And regarding the French Revolution, "following" is the keyword in the Wiki article. It means "after". The Rothschild financed Hessian mercenaries that were used to fight the American Revolution but they had no direct involvement in starting or supporting the French Revolution.

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"It's wrong"

why?

I should had been more clear.

I should had been more clear. I specifically meant about the Rothschilds owning the Federal Reserve:

"most notably the Rothschild banking dynasty...Through their American agents they are able to select the board of directors"

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I'm afraid not.

I've read that page. It says nothing about the topic at hand. Quit trying to distract. Come back when you have some real evidence to refute my comment.

You win

I can't tell if you are lying, or confused or trolling. Either way, this is pointless. I believe Michael made a HUGE mistake when he thought he could apply the liberty philosophy to allow an (almost) anything goes policy to the forums. For good online communities to exist, you need guidelines and moderation. Anonymity and the Internet will encourage people to write wildly inflammatory and incorrect things.

One relevant quote, amongst many, that destroys your argument:

"the popular notion...that they were the founders of the modern banking system...that they were the first international bankers...is utterly without foundation" (http://mises.org/books/menofwealth.pdf pg 87)

But who could trust Mises.org. Shills for the establishment.

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I never said they created the banking system, you liar.

It is obvious to anyone reading our dialogue that you are attempting to put words in my mouth.

Read your own comment above

"The Rothschilds created Fractional Reserve Banking or the process of making $100,000 out of a $10,000 deposit"
Submitted by Veritas Aequitas on Mon, 11/25/2013 - 13:27.

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FRB is a banking practice, not a banking system lol

Get out of town.

you make no sense

but...

"they founded no industries, produced nothing, created nothing, invented nothing....the popular notion....that they invented modern methods of foreign exchange...that they were the first to perfect the modern technique of distributing shares...and that they are entitled to the dubious glory of having first perfect the methods of security manipulation, is utterly without foundation...There were international bankers two centuries before their time..." (Men of Wealth)

"Starting in the late 1600s nations began to establish central banks which were given the legal power to set reserve requirements and to issue the reserve assets..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_reserve_banking#History

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Why such inflammatory language?

Try rereading the posters comment. He was not quoting you, but quoting from the link he provided.

"I'm Ron Paul." - Ron Paul

Are you mentally handicapped?

He says that quote destroys my argument which implies that I said the opposite of what is contained in the quotation, which is not the case.

Yes. I am. Thank you for asking.

However, my handicap prevents me from believing wild conspiracies which cannot be proven. Has anyone on this thread provided any evidence other than links to lists or opinions of people who believe this nonsense?

I am not defending fractional reserve banking or disputing the fact that one of the primary objectives of the military industrial complex is to establish monetary control through fractional reserve banking.

I am simply asking for evidence to show that the Rothschilds are behind this worldwide scheme.

I would encourage you to do a little research on fractional reserve banking. You might be surprised to learn that this concept was not created by the Rothschilds as you claim in your previous statement.

In fact, according to Wikipedia, the same source you quoted previously, fractional reserve banking became popular during the 1600s. That's 150 years before your estimate of when the Rothschild Dynasty rose to power.

So, your statement that the Rothschilds created fractional reserve banking is FALSE.

Please PROVE me wrong.

Also many of the banks listed are state owned. Meaning that they have been nationalized. How will you show Rothschild ownership of these banks?

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The Rothschilds are NOT the behind the "worldwide scheme"

I hope you realize that nowhere have I said this. I am only acknowledging some of their influence.

To your point, I am sure there was FRB before the Rothschilds. They are the ones who made it commonplace in the modern banking system, however.

Furthermore, I know of no nationalized US Banks. Care to fill me in on that?

yes.

Yes. I concur.

By "states", I was referring to "a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government" , not the States of our republic.

Although, there happens to be one nationalized US Bank, The Bank of North Dakota.

http://www.banknh.nd.gov/

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Most Banks are either

Most Banks are either Chartered as National Banks or State Banks. Of course the word National has several meanings depending on the context. With the advent of the Federal Reserve System, there was a great deal of pressure placed on State Banks to accept the National Bank Charter.

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Criminal false debt extortion crime family

The creators of multiple genocides. The financial leaders of the chosen people.

The most evil vile humans on the face of the earth. They use puppet governments to pervert sovereign curencies creating money as false debt. using collections/extortions to identify and bread down any oposition.

sovereign

BULL CONSPIRACY CRAP

When you are people going to stop embarrassing yourself? Here are the sources of this crap. It’s just another circle jerk of innuendo, once again with NO proof of anything. You people don’t even know where the Federal Reserve seeds were planted……or fail to admit it because if you did your worlds would fall apart. The seed were planted by the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT during the Civil War with the passage of the National Banking Acts of 1863, 64 & 65. The Federal Reserve Act in 1913 was not the beginning but the final nail in the coffin that socialized the losses while allowing the profits to remain private, but not the profits of the Federal Reserve but the profits of the banking system. The Federal Reserve for all intent and purposes was nationalized within 50 years. Sure the members of each district receive their 6% dividend, but all profit after the divideds are returned to the Treasury. The sinister function of the Federal Reserve is the fact that it allows irresponsible and corrupt politicians to totally mismanagement this government to loot the bounty for themself and their friends…..Obamacare is currently capturing 1/7th ( or 14%) of the economy and taking it into complete government control and not one of you cares……but you spend all day looking up this meaning conspiracy crap to prove you a special snowflake…..you people make me sick…….you the exact people Alexander Hamilton was counting on to implement his mercantilist state……keep them occupied with the last war with confusion and misinformation while he captures the next segment of the economy.

So heres are your sources, these statistic's have been floating around since 2007 and not one of these sites can provide any link to the Rothschild…….But all you special snowflakes have figured it out…..and still never discuss the real problem…..your beloved Constitution and the USG.

Here the OP source……just another conspiracy kook site

http://bloginfo.educate-yourself.eu/2013/03/list-of-banks-ow...

This next one is my favorite……..his site’s headline is “exposing the dream world”….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And this guy is a special kind of kook….he thinks the moon is hollow and at the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian…..this is Alex Jones idol….need I say more about these dumbasses.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/55804-rothschild-owned-ce...

http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2013/11/rothschild-cent...

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1680855/pg1

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2011110803113...

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=195781

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/banking_a...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_central_banks

If you pull up just about any central bank from this list you will see that the central bank is more often than not owned by the government of the country. Who does a central bank most benefit…..the GOVERNMENT…….THE STATE!

Instead of reading this crap…how about picking up a book once in a while and learn how the actual system works and then you will understand that the business the Rothschild’s were in, which is UNDERWRITING GOVERNMENT bonds…. And NOT PRINTING MONEY …..than you will understand how fucking ludicrous these site are.

Here is link to a book titled “Men Of Wealth”….there is an excellent chapter on the Rothschild…..with some actual research of their business practices and most of you will be shocked to find out the Rothschild and the business they were in actually favored “sound money” …..if they were underwriters of government bonds……why in the world would they favor a central bank and inflation …..They wouldn’t they would favor a gold standard…..THINK PEOPLE……if you do you will see that this conspiracy crap is just that.......crap.

http://mises.org/document/3120/