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The Power of Linux

I have only recently began using Linux. My entire computing life, up until a few months ago, was spent on boxes using various Windows releases. I was content. I thought of Linux as a downgrade. After all, how the hell could something free be better than what I had paid $129.99 to purchase? I was wrong. Linux is much more powerful than Windows.

By trade, I am a scientist. After moving to a new research group, I found it necessary to compute efficiently. I am not sure how one would go about scheduling 100,000+ single-processor calculations on a Windows box to be submitted to a supercomputer (without downloading CygWin - a Linux terminal emulator). By the way, over 90% of the world's supercomputers run on Linux. I estimated that my particular computation job would take over 4 YEARS if handled only one at a time. With Linux, I was able to get them done in ~10 days. Windows who?

Now, I understand that the great majority of people aren't dealing with the same problems that I encounter. However, after using Linux at work, I felt obliged to install a version on my home box as well. I have not been disappointed.

I have a fancy desktop that I built myself, and I must admit that I ran into problems setting up my graphics card driver. But, that's water under the bridge now, and I have that knowledge to share if anyone else encounters similar problems. It was only a minor setback.

Linux will NOT disappoint you. There are a multitude of different versions that you can install for FREE. Updating is easy. There is no waiting 30 minutes (or more) for Windows Update to finish doing its thing. Viruses, what viruses? No one writes viruses for Linux. It would be a horrible mistake to do so. Why? The majority of servers use Linux. Hackers would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces by writing such viruses. So, no need for the fancy antivirus software that you use now.

In addition, us Freedom Fighters are no strangers to the internet. The internet has a plethora of information on troubleshooting any problems that you may encounter. Help is only a search away.

Currently, in the background, my box is running a script that downloads my favorite YouTube videos. Can Windows do that?

If you decide to deal a blow to tyranny and switch to Linux, I will do my best to help you. To hell with Bill Gates.

Linux is the heat.



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Bill Gates, way too big for his britches!

He's got way too much money, as he is pushing this eugenics crap on society.

Time to vote with your wallet and say no to big business tapering in our lives.

Switch to Ubuntu, or any Linux based operating system and say good riddance to the likes of Bill.

Every computer I have bought with windows would always crash after their updates, and absolutely no help getting it up and running again. They always pushed for you to buy a new operating system. Windows sucks big time, always open for virus attacks. Since Ubuntu I don't even have a virus checker or a firewall, no problems in the past 3 years ever.

Gold standard: because man can not be trusted to control his greed

Hell, I want to test the

Hell, I want to test the power of Linux.
I want to see if I can garnish a contract and steal business for some firm of Linux people, because I am good at that, and others might be better at tech issues than me. I'd like to see if I can go off grid and make a move and see if there is market potential and see if there is potential to team up with others rather than watch the outsourcing continue before our very eyes.

Be Your Own Media!!!

sysadmin/linux kernel programmer/network engineer here.

Is linux ready for the desktop? Kinda.

- Ubuntu can replace the windows desktop for most programmers.
- I still have to use windows on my PC because there are some job requirements to utilize vizio and some other MS bs programs that are industry standard. Wireless is a PIA in many distros depending on your hardware in a laptop environment. Desktop w/ ethernet is pretty well supported w/o problems. I sit on a windows PC w/ about 30 secureCRT terminals to my linux boxes.

- Do I want my mom using linux? probably not. I'd be her tech support person daily and it would drive me to drink walking her through steps. No, programmers and engineers are not normally patient people and usually make horrid tech support people. I'd rather die or start drinking. Ever seen the Jimmy Fallon Sat night live as Nick Burns the computer guy? That's most of us in the IT realm, we get sick of any redundancy in the workday, and that's partially what keeps us interested and challenged. Did I learn something today at work? Yep, iscsi is a real PIA w/ LVM when trying to emulate an NFS share, just build a bigger box w/ 1-10GB ethernet adapters and use NFS 4. See what I mean? I don't care why your particular e-mail got caught in the spam filter because someone put a zero in for the 0bama. It's not really that important because it's redundant work that is tedious without really learning anything new today.

- Linux on the desktop will become more mainstream. Android OS is a prime example of this. My kids can use a nook tablet and prefer it over a PC. In time, when they are 12-15 years old they will not give a complete crap about a windows OS as their tablet will take care of what they want to do.

- Is linux less vulnerable than windows? probably not. Unless one wants to learn iptables and customize a firewall you will most likely not be 100% secure unless you're behind another FW. As linux becomes more dominant in the marketplace viruses will be customized to take advantage of it.

My $.02

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There are lots of gui

There are lots of gui frontends for iptables. Many distributions also come with default sensible rule tables preinstalled.

you can use Windows *inside* of linux with either WINE, or the much better way of using VirtualBox. I can install and have running ever copy of Windows ever made *inside* of my linux GUI.

When they crash to blue screens, I can just click the "X" and try again, without rebooting my computer.

Linux is absolutely more secure than Windows. At least we can see the code and fix it.

As both a programmer and system administrator

I can definitively say that there are strengths and weaknesses to both Windows and Linux desktops and servers. I will say that Bill Gates did a huge service to the world of personal and business computers. Without Microsoft's early policy of their developer network IBM would have continued to dominate and restrict the market. Microsoft said "Here's our software and here's our libraries. And here's our number. Write software for our OS and we'll do everything we can to assist you." while IBM said "No, you can't have our libraries and if you want to write software to run on our systems you need to become certified ($$$)".
Linux wasn't really a desktop contender until just a few, short years ago. Now, however, there are some very stable, user-friendly versions available. Linux server flavors have been good for quite a few years now and have allowed many start-ups opportunities that they would not have had (google, for instance) utilizing commercial software and OS.

linux is good, not better

Windows and Linux are apples and oranges. Linux is not more powerful at all. Some things are easier, most things are harder.

If you want to build a NAS, a router, a web server, stuff like that... Linux is pretty good.

If you want to use a computer, use Windows.

If you want to have a good infrastructure at work, use Windows Server. Active Directory is far superior to SAMBA. Use Linux on your NAS and firewall.

If you want to play the latest video games...

or absolutely cannot do without certain proprietary software ( Outlook? Microsoft Word? ) Then yes. You should probably use windows over linux.

If you are part of the 99% of people who just need to get to face book, send an email, write a paper, or use the internet, etc...

THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH OS YOU USE.

windows has browsers.
linux has browsers.

Why pay the extra money?

honest question

I don't know the answer....

Does any linux desktop have an indexing service that's half as good as Windows?

Correction to your post: If

Correction to your post:

If you don't know what you are doing and something goes wrong for some reason (which is rare these days for novices), then linux might be harder.

If you do know what you are doing, then linux is ALWAYS easier to solve problems for. We have the source code, after all. There are also thousands of people also looking for your same problem, and we don't have to deal with the crazy cryptic undocumented "windows registry."

Plus, it is free, and gives me more control of my computer. I can control everything. I can change everything. I compile the entire thing from source for my particular CPU and software setup. This adds a lot of speed versus precompiled software.

So, if you don't know what you are doing, then things might *seem harder at first, but if you just google the error message, you will be able to figure out how to fix it.*

disagree

There's millions of people trying to solve your problems on Windows. Windows Registry is simple. It's a tree with key pairs. That's all it is.

The reason you're glad to be able to configure all those things on Linux is because you have to. If you couldn't, the system wouldn't work half the time. Windows has an abstraction layer above the hardware so you don't have to worry about if your kernal will install with your architecture, and it runs plenty fast.

There's plenty of uses for Linux and it's a handy tool. It is not a user friendly tool and by the time you're done googling the error codes, you could have gotten your work done and gone home with Windows.

I'm not bashing Linux, I love it. It's just that Linux people act like it's so superior because you HAVE to learn archaic information like how to mount your USB stick. No windows user would even consider that something like this would need to be done because they have Plug n Play.

Not to mention, it takes forever to learn all the dumb, seemingly purposefully un-user-friendly application names.

I have supported users out there who can't even figure out how to login if someone else was before them. They will never comprehend the first thing about Linux. Not yet, at least. It's not for people, it's for nerds.

misinformed

You think linux doesn't use Plug-n-play? You think an undocumented windows registry tree with cryptic names at every node and leaf is simple simple because the tree data structure is "simple?" That conclusion just doesn't follow. Moreover, the *OS* changes according to these cryptic keys in undocumented ways. Good luck figuring that out and keeping your sanity. My system has been up for 623 days without reboot and is fully updated. Good luck doing that on Windows.

So, to me, you don't seem to have much experience with Linux, or even Windows, and my point remains unaddressed: if there is something broken in Linux (which is very rare these days -- contrary to your claims), then I can fix it; whereas if there is something broken in Windows, I am held hostage by the proprietary undocumented binary.

lots of experience

My job is to design, implement and maintain IT infrastructure. I get why you think the registry is cryptic but it really isn't. You may think that it is because it's a central db of most the settings needed for most everything on your machine and it can seem like information overload. It's a great place to store persistent external settings. Imagine if everything in all your linux meta files were in one place. That would seem confusing at first, but it isn't.

And again, I'm not knocking Linux. It's great, it is highly stable as your system shows. It's not intuitive or easy. If it were either of those, it would be Windows because they'd give it a registry. jk

The best Linux desktops claim to be like Windows XP. They're not even as good as XP and yet, XP is obsolete in the Windows world. Windows is a better user OS period. Maybe 10 years from now, some Linux flavor will be great too, but it will always be behind.

Honestly, not having to reboot your PC very often is not that great of a selling point. Tell someone, "here's a hard computer to use if you're not an expert but you only have to reboot it every few years." and the average consumer will ask for something better.

Not having to reboot is good for a web server, it's not so needed for a desktop.

And if I have to type:
mkdir /mnt/usb
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
ls /mnt/usb

Just to see what's on my USB stick???? Come on... Linux is not for users, it's for admins.

If you want

to use a computer, use Windows...

AND expect random dll process errors, viruses, blue screens of death, automatic updates probably paired with secret NSA keys, expensive software, non-backwards compatible upgrades (office etc.), and the ire of many software developers that view Micro$oft as the "evil empire".

any dev...

Any developer who wont developer for M$ is a hungry developer. (exaggerated slightly, I know.)

Plus what the other guy said... are you using Windows 95? lol

What a crock

Google and Twitter developers are anything but, poor.

But they are hungry? For the next best thing! Running the Internet on some Linux machine.

Linux is a real programmers dream with it's open and flexible POSIX complaint system that can run on a variety of hardware. The future is powered by ARM Processors and Windows is hardly a player. Microsoft may have developed the first Tablets in the 90's but, who is making all the money now? Microsoft's only saving grace is they have made programming in visual studio so easy a monkey could do it. And they have no shortages of Corporate IT that prefers Monkeys over the eccentric genius that created a competitive free computing environment that has changed the world.

99.999999% of devs

Are not coding twitter and google.

Microsoft isn't a player in tablets??? Tablets are what make Windows 8 worth existing. They're so much more useful than iOS or Android tablets.

Funny... POSIX vs Windows on tablets too now days. Windows wins.

The reason Windows wins is the same reason it's always won over the years. It has better applications, it's easier to use and a larger development community.

ARM is a great chip, I'm not going to knock it. But the future? That depends on what you're doing. I'll take a M$ Surface Pro 2 with an i5 any day over any ARM tablet.

And to say that development is too easy with .NET and VS is moronic. It goes back to the same argument I made earlier. The only people who are ever going to love Linux are nerds who WANT things to be harder. It's not corporate monkeys coding for Windows. It's people who want a shorter, less buggy, simpler development cycle for a product that can be used be actual people on systems that people actually have.

Open source is great but I've heard it compared to buying a car. When you buy a commercial product, you get a fully loaded car with that new car smell. When you get open source, you'll be lucky to have a steering wheel and brakes. You may have to wire those up yourself.

In the Linux world you'd hear how that makes it so much better because you CAN wire your own steering wheel. People say things like "Linux is so much better because I can customize whichever steering wheel I like best."

That does come in handy but it's not better in almost every situation when what you want to do is open a box, install some software, and be on your way.

The business world's priorities aren't stroking the egos of tech nerds who love getting nitty gritty with their OS. Their priorities are a stable, maintainable infrastructure with reliable, easily deploy-able software.

Not to mention the UI research and functionality that you get with commercial software, including Windows.

And I still don't know what Linux people have to say about AD, Exchange, Remote Desktop Services, etc. There's nothing in the Linux world that competes with those. Coming close with clunky open source is not close at all.

Remember, the whole point of Linux was to provide an OS that could compete with enterprise level server OS's. It's always playing catch up.

Lol

I haven't had any of those issues with Windows since Windows 2000.

XP was fantastic and stable.
Vista was sexy, but unstable and slow at times.
7 was the perfect mix between the two, combining XP's performance with Vista's (upgraded) aesthetics.

8 seems fine, I haven't heard any complaints, but I feel all the extra added functionality that really differentiates 8 from 7 is unnecessary. Like the live tile screen instead of the start menu. Meh.

Speak for yourself then.

All it takes to bring a Windows Machine to it's knees:
Visit the wrong site and click a link.

This is extremely unlikely with a Linux Machine. NUFF Said.

If Linux becomes popular enough

It will become victim of the same things Windows comps are susceptible to.

It's really not that hard to install AdBlock to your browser and search the web, worry free.

NUFF said.

there's a good reason

The reason isn't because Linux is better. The reason is because why bother writing an attack like that for an OS that probably wont be used for web browsing most of the time?

Zorin OS

Issues with the learning curve? Use Zorin OS. I haven't used it but it's supposed to be a lot like Windows and help people with the transition.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33153_7-57487316-10391733/zorin...

Linux sucks

Don't buy into this pro-Linux propaganda. Sure the computer geek trendies love it, but it is a giant pain to deal with for regular people.

I estimated that my particular computation job would take over 4 YEARS if handled only one at a time. With Linux, I was able to get them done in ~10 days. Windows who?

That makes no sense. You are talking about submitting computation tasks to a very specialized computer system. How is that an indictment of the OS your desktop computer runs?

I have a fancy desktop that I built myself, and I must admit that I ran into problems setting up my graphics card driver.

Graphics drivers are just the start. Wait until you need a driver for an unsupported peripheral, or want to compile a program with a makefile that isn't quite setup for your particular distribution.

Linux will NOT disappoint you.

It has already disappointed me.

There are a multitude of different versions that you can install for FREE.

My time is not free and dealing with all of Linux's problems takes up too much of it.

Viruses, what viruses? No one writes viruses for Linux.

Nobody writes "viruses" for Linux because nobody uses Linux. People, however, do discover and exploit other types of Linux bugs just like every other operating system.

The internet has a plethora of information on troubleshooting any problems that you may encounter. Help is only a search away.

I wish you luck. There is nothing more that Linux users like to do than to assert their nerd dominance over other people asking questions about Linux by making you feel like an idiot for even asking in the first place.

Currently, in the background, my box is running a script that downloads my favorite YouTube videos. Can Windows do that?

Yes.

If you decide to deal a blow to tyranny and switch to Linux

You are trading one kind of tyranny for a different kind of tyranny. Look up some of Linus Torvalds email rants and see what a great guy he is. Also, look into the different companies, like Google, that contribute significant amounts of code to Linux. They are every bit as "evil" as Microsoft.

Linux is the heat.

False.

Haha!

Nobody writes "viruses" for Linux because nobody uses Linux. People, however, do discover and exploit other types of Linux bugs just like every other operating system.

Linux runs the Internet. Look at all the big servers. Look at all the home and small office routers. Look at most of the Internet's firewalls. How about set-top boxes and smart TV's?

Look under the hood of your Mac. OS X would not exist if it was not for GNU/Linux.

Bloomberg: Does Linux run the World?
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You don't know what your talking about!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

Stick with Windows.

However, even if there has been programmers from google that have contributed to various distributions, at least I'm not PAYING them ANY money for the product.

Different strokes for different folks.

As I've said numerous times below, I bet over 90% of people would never have a problem with the switch.

In addition, what does a person have to lose? A dual boot can be setup, and they can try Linux without loss of money. They may even save themselves money in the future by not having to support the eugenics king.

Stick with Windows.I don't

Stick with Windows.

I don't use Windows.

However, even if there has been programmers from google that have contributed to various distributions, at least I'm not PAYING them ANY money for the product.

Don't kid yourself. You don't have to send these companies cash money to be supporting them. Just by running their software and generating diagnostic information like crash reports you are supporting them.

As I've said numerous times below, I bet over 90% of people would never have a problem with the switch.

I must be one of the 10% then and I say that as someone with a degree in Computer Science. I could run Linux, but I choose not to. I can't imagine putting my parents, or even worse, grandma and grandpa on it.

In addition, what does a person have to lose? A dual boot can be setup, and they can try Linux without loss of money.

I can think of so many different ways this can go wrong.

They may even save themselves money in the future by not having to support the eugenics king.

I do support not supporting Bill Gates :)

More shoot first ask questions later.

I switched my Mom to Linux Mint 13 MATE a couple of years ago after her Windows7 machine succumbed to bit rot. And she has been very happy with it. With Windows she was always scared and never installed or updated any applications. She never touched her DVD Recorder and always panicked if anything "Acted Funny". Now that has all changed. The first thing she does with a CD or DVD now is rip it so she can watch it on TV with Plex. Now she will surf the Internet from her desktop instead of with a RDP connection to her business computer. She even tracked down and installed a couple of games and a weather app. Add that to the fact that now I can SSH into her machine while she is logged in and regular backups are made to the Internet. The whole computing paradigm has changed for my senior mother that has been using computers since they were run from punch cards.

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The use of Linux Solved by Grandma Problem

I had a Grandma-like friend who had a knack for messing up her Windows machine time and time again.

I set up her computer with a very basic Linux distribution along with instructing here how to use the 3 or 4 applications she actually used, and she has been fine ever since.

I also announced that I will no longer support her use of Windows since it was costing me too much time and was helping her shoot herself in the foot.

Now we both have peace of mind.

I agree

I run many flavors of linux at work for apache,asterisk,squid,samba,etc and I know well that there are plenty of times that a linux desktop user would have to drop to a terminal to configure things and the average person would barely be able to list a directory. It's not even close to realistic to think that they are interchangeable. I love linux but I run windows on my desktops for ease and compatibility. I don't even install desktops on my linux machines in fact.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

Linux is great

However if you game you better dual boot windows...

Linux loves having driver issues.