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The Power of Linux

I have only recently began using Linux. My entire computing life, up until a few months ago, was spent on boxes using various Windows releases. I was content. I thought of Linux as a downgrade. After all, how the hell could something free be better than what I had paid $129.99 to purchase? I was wrong. Linux is much more powerful than Windows.

By trade, I am a scientist. After moving to a new research group, I found it necessary to compute efficiently. I am not sure how one would go about scheduling 100,000+ single-processor calculations on a Windows box to be submitted to a supercomputer (without downloading CygWin - a Linux terminal emulator). By the way, over 90% of the world's supercomputers run on Linux. I estimated that my particular computation job would take over 4 YEARS if handled only one at a time. With Linux, I was able to get them done in ~10 days. Windows who?

Now, I understand that the great majority of people aren't dealing with the same problems that I encounter. However, after using Linux at work, I felt obliged to install a version on my home box as well. I have not been disappointed.

I have a fancy desktop that I built myself, and I must admit that I ran into problems setting up my graphics card driver. But, that's water under the bridge now, and I have that knowledge to share if anyone else encounters similar problems. It was only a minor setback.

Linux will NOT disappoint you. There are a multitude of different versions that you can install for FREE. Updating is easy. There is no waiting 30 minutes (or more) for Windows Update to finish doing its thing. Viruses, what viruses? No one writes viruses for Linux. It would be a horrible mistake to do so. Why? The majority of servers use Linux. Hackers would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces by writing such viruses. So, no need for the fancy antivirus software that you use now.

In addition, us Freedom Fighters are no strangers to the internet. The internet has a plethora of information on troubleshooting any problems that you may encounter. Help is only a search away.

Currently, in the background, my box is running a script that downloads my favorite YouTube videos. Can Windows do that?

If you decide to deal a blow to tyranny and switch to Linux, I will do my best to help you. To hell with Bill Gates.

Linux is the heat.




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OSX is unix

apples proprietary OSX is just a branded tweak if BSD Unix, which is why it also more powerful than windows.

Linux is indeed great and it

Linux is indeed great and it sounds like it was a better fit for your needs. I use both Linux and Windows Server at work and I understand the strengths and weaknesses of each. However, it sounds like you don't know very much about Windows if you couldn't figure out the task schedule problem on Windows.

I've been looking through some windows scripts to see...

what it takes to, for instance, download a file from a url.

Here is what I found at StackOverflow.com:

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' Create an HTTP object
myURL = "http://www.google.com"
Set objHTTP = CreateObject( "WinHttp.WinHttpRequest.5.1" )

' Download the specified URL
objHTTP.Open "GET", myURL, False
objHTTP.Send
intStatus = objHTTP.Status

If intStatus = 200 Then
WScript.Echo " " & intStatus & " A OK " +myURL
Else
WScript.Echo "OOPS" +myURL
End If

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then

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C:\>cscript geturl.vbs
Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.7
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

200 A OK http://www.google.com

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and here is a script I wrote in bash that downloads every file from a list of URLs in a file (ex. I used this script to download a crapload of Rothbard material from Mises.org):

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list_file=$1
num_files=`cat $list_file | wc -l`

for ((i=1; i<=$num_files; i++)); do
file=`cat $list_file | awk -v ii=$i '{if (NR == ii) {print $0}}'`
wget $file
done

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then

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d-list.sh file_with_list_of_urls

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BAM! 6 liner.

I have an OS neutral way in PHP

that can technically all be put on one long line.
filegetter.php
<?php foreach( explode( PHP_EOL, trim( file_get_contents( $argv[1] ) ) ) as $arg ) file_put_contents( ltrim( pathinfo( $arg, PATHINFO_BASENAME ), '/' ), file_get_contents( $arg ) ); ?>

$ php filegetter.php file_with_list_of_urls

I couldn't help myself even though I love windows bashing :)

I AM is all that is. Everything else is malleable.

wget

the difference is wget, not linux.

use webclient class in .NET if you want... way easier then your script

"Linux is the heat"

... and this is why I cant use it. I have a macbook pro and i partitioned the harddrive and gave about 10 different linux distros a try. I liked mint-cinnamon the best unfortunately they all drain the battery fast and massively overheat the system. poor laptop was literally too hot to touch. I spent hours on all sorts of forums and installed all sorts of power management apps, but no good for me and my mac.

I imagine if you have a desktop its not such a big deal but i am stuck with osx.

Linux on a Mac is touch and go.

Here is a link that discusses the problems and addresses some fixes.
http://unencumberedbyfacts.com/2013/08/16/linux-on-a-macbook...

Linux mint is meant for

Linux mint is meant for desktops. I am beyond positive one exist for your laptop.

I dont know man. i tried

I dont know man. i tried ubuntu, xubuntu, fedora all with the same issue.

You are buying sub-par

You are buying sub-par hardware then. I happen to be doing a tour with a linux over 3 houses shortly.. with 3 different computers, all untested. If all 3 don't run flawlessly I will retract my statement.

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The Hardware on your Laptop & Fierce Competition is the Problem

Some laptops have hardware from companies that discourage an open-source solution.

I ran into what I am guessing is the same problem with one of my laptops. There didn't appear to be a free linux driver available for the wireless network hardware. I refused to reward the hardware company for roping me into paying for their Linux driver. Some Linux distributions appear to steer you towards paying for such things. There probably is a free solution, yet my linux configuration skills were not adequate.

When you eventually purchase a different laptop, try to reward the companies that don't make life more difficult and expensive.

That laptop aside, I use Crunch-Bang Linux for almost everything; loving it.

disagree

actually, linux is a great study on why socialism doesnt work. without getting into a broader discussion on IP, linus basically copied this OS, then kept anyone from making money off of advances. what you had was a handful of programmers, albeit with the best of intentions, writing code to satisfy themselves and their equals. the result is a product that is still less user friendly (and therefore less popular) than the expensive counterpart. Linux always has been, and always will be "the next big thing" because it is legally barred from normal market operation.

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

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If you haven't explored Linux recently, I'd suggest starting fresh with your research.

Actually your post is a great

Actually your post is a great study on ideological thinking and how one can become consumed by it to the point where it clouds all future information. Socialism is something used in economies bound by different physics then our internet. An idea cost nothing to share, letting it flow as freely as possible is beneficial to us all. If you think linux isn't user friendly at this stage you are simply uninformed, but the fact that you would be confident enough to tell someone else that makes you stupid.

and

"If you think linux isn't user friendly at this stage you are simply uninformed, but the fact that you would be confident enough to tell someone else that makes you stupid."

you cant sit there and tell me that there isnt a large learning curve involved with it. you have to be committed to learning it. and like it or not, that doesnt exist to nearly the extent with windows. it just doesnt.

by no means am i disparaging anyone who does make that commitment. hell, ive done it probably a half dozen times. and ill prolly do it again. but to play it off like its better for your average, 40 hrs a week factory worker with kids, out of the box is just blowing smoke.

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

legally barring you

from making a profit from said shared idea IS socialism in and of itself. its not some symbolic analogy.

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

ummm.... NO

Socialism is FORCING people to contribute to an economic system, just like people are FORCED to buy insurance now.

There are dozens of OS systems built on the linux kernel that are not free, Redhat being one of the most popular but not the only.

Economically speaking... WHO would buy a free version of linux? Nobody because its FREE so you must first add on something new and better to the linux kernel before people would start paying for it. You could try selling the free version of linux but only a total idiot would buy it.

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

what youve stated

is only part of what socialism is. Socialism is also using force in order to control markets. that is exactly what the 'opensource' designation does.

"There are dozens of OS systems built on the linux kernel that are not free, Redhat being one of the most popular but not the only."

now, theres a difference here. what redhat has done is created a model where they sell subscription services and software to work with their FREE OS. Opensource means that they 'legally' cannot sell the kernal or anything build off of the kernal.

"Economically speaking... WHO would buy a free version of linux? Nobody because its FREE so you must first add on something new and better to the linux kernel before people would start paying for it. You could try selling the free version of linux but only a total idiot would buy it."

and you've just proven my whole point. IF linux truly was as good or better for most people, then WHY does microsoft even exist? Linux has been around since before microsoft blew personal computing up. Why would someone pay for microsoft when they can get that software for free? because its better for the average folks. And thats because they are capable of selling their product. they have profit incentive where linux is severely handicapped by that removal.

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

WAT???

Linux runs the world... 70% of the worlds computer systems run Linux... just not PC stuff due mostly to hardware compatibility licensing issues.

Seventy-five percent of stock exchanges worldwide now run Linux, in fact, as do the servers that power Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, eBay and Google, to name just a few. Ninety-five percent of supercomputers run Linux too, as do a variety of automated teller machines and other critical devices. In cloud contexts, meanwhile, Linux led far and away, with 70 percent naming it as their primary platform, compared with 18 percent citing Windows and 11 citing Unix.

You sir... are a freaking retard if you think open source is somehow equal to socialism... nobody is forcing you to use linux.

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

*faceplam*

personal computing was what he referred to and clearly what i was referring to. again, see my peers comment.

"You sir... are a freaking retard if you think open source is somehow equal to socialism... nobody is forcing you to use linux."

anyone who builds on top of that code is LEGALLY BARRED from making money from it. you are a retard if you think that the consumer is the only one affected from socialism.

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

Absolutely Wrong

You can sell any product you make using GNU Software. You just have to follow the license. Slackware did it. Redhat does it.
Nothing is prohibiting selling software licensed like linux. Build a compilation, burn it to DVD's and you can sell it. Just don't include any trademarked material. Centos strips out Redhat IP.

yeah and nobody uses it for anything

it's not like PHP and javascript run websites and it's not like MySQL is the most popular RDB engine and it's not like the Apache web server runs the internet and it's not like anybody uses open source software like Wordpress, Drupal (hi DP), Joomla, Zencart, etc. And it's not like it's ALL more secure, scalable and reliable than anything Microsoft ever stole from CPM and later Xerox Parc.

Cause socialism doesn't work.

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and its not like any of those things

make it user friendly. theres a reason FREE software isnt the most popular thing out there. Ive had is several times over the years. Im running windows 7 right now because 1) wife has a ton of trouble and im the only one who can fix it, and 2) young kids, while being pretty capable on windows, is completely untrustworthy on a linux machine.

and as for your list, anyone who knows what that crap is are the 'peers' i referred to. Snooki doesnt know WTF those things are. Snooki's buyin windows.

the easiest way to get something done isnt to change the behavior; its to change the meaning of existing behavior. like a cut isnt a cut, torture isnt torture, its enhanced interrogation. war isnt war, its kinetic military action. declaring war now appare

Let Me Disagree With You (Partially)

I would like to point out a significant premise in your point that can lead you down the wrong path with technology. So I will save all you programmers out there under 30 a lot of pain by pointing something out.

Whenever I hear "iPhone is better", Windows is Better", "Linux is better"... I just ignore everything else after it.

However.. When I hear "Linux would be a good OS in this specific case" then you have my attention.

I often choose Linux for two reason.
A: Cost for basic functionality is practically free.
B: Open sourced Linux supported software is being used (often free).

The real world determinate in many os choices I make is the software , not the OS. The software design effectively forces your OS decisions, often not for technical reasons.

Finally Open Source does not mean only Linux. There are vibrant open source communities for all OS types, including windows.

Linux is the literal equivalent of the freedom movement, but more as a leader. Linux in and of itself is not the best OS ever.

I find that many Linux advocates treat it like a religion and that is the part that can lead to technical disasters.

I find that most Linux nuts think like this... "Christianity is good. The Bible is everything you need to know. So if you do not come to the Baptist Church on 123 Linux Street Distribution ABC.4 then you are going to hell and I hate your guts for even considering using anything else like the Lutherans distro."

I imagine over 90% of users would not have a problem...

As we were discussing below, even proprietary drivers for graphics cards can now be handled using package managers. Thus, even gamers would likely be fine (One could search online to determine compatibility of the desired titles).

Personally, however, I am not a fan of Bill Gates. Using Linux and encouraging others to do so is a very practical way to stick a thumb in his eye.

I'll probably get SteamOS

Right now I run OS X Mavericks and Windows 8.1 on a computer I built. When it comes out I'll probably start tri-booting SteamOS (or if it turns out to suck I may just go Ubuntu or something, I'm sure game support will be the same). If it gets good enough, and enough games support it, then down the road I might even get rid of Windows for it.

And only one program really keeps me tied to OS X, Coda 2. I wish there was something even a tenth as good for web development on any other platform.

Although, to switch entirely over to a linux I would need for Adobe to release their suite on linux, since the closest competition to Adobe products is about as close as we are to the other side of the Milky Way.

Though I support the right to create proprietary software, I love open source and would like little more than to fully switch over to Linux, if the applications I use worked. There are three distinct categories I use my computer for though: Web/graphic work, research/learning, and entertainment. Linux can only handle the research/learning part as of now. That is probably the most common category people use their computers for, so it's a great time for them to start switching, but not me, not just yet.

Freedom in our lifetime! - fiol.us

OS X Mavericks

The main people who buy Macs are the people who are either forced to, or don't check into things... Coda 2? Eclipse does everything Coda 2 does and infinitely more.

Around 50% of my sales to Mac users, they don't even try the free trial first, they just buy it... and it really made me see how Mac keeps its business... people that don't check into things to find out that there are so many more companies that make hardware that is not proprietary, is faster, cheaper, more storage, more flexibility, more choices...

On the iPad, you can't even download anything except pictures... the thing is an advanced doorstop... yet people buying them right and left.

Web work can be done in notepad, nothing fancy need there.

First off, you make the

First off, you make the assumption that I have a Mac. I already stated that I built my PC.

Your initial statement is nothing short of total bullshit. I know a LOT of Mac users, many of them consider PCs carefully, but Macs often come out ahead for their extremely high quality hardware, and subjectively superior operating system. There are several industries where it is a widely used standard, including web, graphics and editing. For you to say only uninformed users purchase Macs is itself incredibly uninformed. Obviously, to put Mac OS X on a PC I built myself, I would have to be at least slightly informed.

Eclipse does everything Coda 2 does, sure, so does notepad and Terminal, but not in a half decent way. I absolutely despise Eclipse. Coda 2 saves me TONS of time and makes my work much more enjoyable. How can you expect a designer to work with a program that clearly didn't hire one?

You are absolutely ignorant about Macs, clearly you are the one who has not checked into what the fuck you are talking about.

Freedom in our lifetime! - fiol.us

Ah yes the MS Notepad development suite

Used to have a little graphic of that in my footers. Written examples for people on napkins a few times too. Problem there?

Ya gotta learn how to write on so many different napkin sizes.

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