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Cruz: "Administration gave Iran a win and sold out our Israeli allies"

Just saw this tweet (https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/405128215837954048) from Ted Cruz:

With Iran, the administration has gotten it backwards and it is time to reverse course before further damage is done.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/11/25/ted_cruz_ob...

I was somewhat surprised, but mostly just disappointed as my skepticism of Cruz seems to be confirmed. :(

The article:

According to the interim agreement regarding Iran's nuclear program that was reached this weekend in Geneva, not one centrifuge will be destroyed. Not one pound of enriched uranium will leave Iran. Not one American unjustly detained in Iran's notorious prisons will be released. But Iran will start to receive, in a matter of days, $7 billion in relief from international economics sanctions.

This appears to be an unfortunate case of history repeating itself. As happened with North Korea in 1994, fascination with the negotiation process has blinded American diplomats to the true nature of their negotiating partners. Substantive sanctions relief has been exchanged for vague promises that the growth of a nuclear program will be curbed.

Full article here: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/11/25/ted_cruz_ob...

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ecorob's picture

Do we actually have Israeli allies?

I wasn't aware of that.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Just another neo-con

I love it when they out themselves.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

here *we* go again--

"I" country versus "I" country--

and it's not America's business--

but how can it be so terrible that there hasn't been war--

is it true that now the big banking cartels have moved into Iran, though?

I couldn't get to the original article; I had to subscribe, and I didn't want to take the time or possibly pay--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

This would have been all we needed with Ron

This would have been precisely the lever we needed to distance ourselves from establishment conservatives with Ron, the clear pro-peace candidate.

Unfortunately as indicated below, we don't find this base of moral high ground with Rand.

Cruz was floated as the Rand-alternative, the Tea Party Caucus Rand-alternative and now they are bidding for the same attention.

So now the game is back to who's Israel's better buddy?

Major strategic phail.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

This is surely not surprising.

I imagine Rand Paul will take a similar position. According to former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney it is political suicide to oppose the Israeli lobby. A May 23, 2011 blog reported on her interview with Press TV in which she described the situation that all members of Congress face when they are seeking office. Here is an excerpt:

"“Every candidate for Congress at that time had a pledge, they were given a pledge to sign…” she said. “If you don’t sign the pledge, you don’t get money. For example, it was almost like water torture for me. My parents observed this. I would get a call and the person on the other end of the phone would say ‘I want to do a fundraiser for you.’ And then we would get into the planning. I would get really excited, because of course you have to have money in order to run a campaign. And then two weeks, three weeks into the planning, they would say, ‘Did you sign the pledge?’ And then I would say, ‘No, I didn’t sign the pledge.’ And then my fundraiser would go kaput.”"

"During her years in Congress, McKinney opposed U.S. involvement in foreign wars, questioned the official version of the events of 911, and introduced articles of impeachment against former President George W. Bush. Her final term in Congress came to an end after AIPAC, or the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, funneled money into the campaign of her opponent, Hank Johnson."

Here is the blog:

http://realisticbird.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/cynthia-mckinn...

Here is the two part interview:

Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8eAQaRxyRo&feature=player_em...

Part Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jw6eNVkWqI&feature=player_em...

This is at least one reason why Ron Paul was opposed by his own party when seeking re-election. He only succeeded because of his record and personal reputation in his District. His lack of support in the House was I believe at least in some measure due to his refusal to blindly support Israel.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

The new "third rail" of politics

Oppose Israel and you lose. Why doesn't Israel have to follow the same rules regarding the nuclear weapons the other countries have to?

Cruz mayy be right

Iran will take the monies and buy arms from China and Russia imo.

donvino

And this is a problem because?

Why shouldn't Iran have a credible defense force?

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

I think

they will become the retailer if you know what I mean.

donvino

The money belongs to Iran.

It is simply assets that are held in foreign banks that were frozen as part of sanctions. The same thing happened to Libyan foreign assets and who knows where they ended up?

I believe there are even more Iranian assets being held by the banks. To my way of thinking this is little more than extortion and theft. It is certainly an act of war. It appears that Iran and Syria are being stripped of their potential to oppose Israel's hegemony in the region as was Libya. Eventually the West betrayed that country and the rest is history.

There is much more to this story that will emerge in the months to come I am sure.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

carefull you might get down voted

for having your own opinion here

lol

lol

donvino

why is everyone praising obama

daily paulers are praising Obama how about that
now i've seen everything

if you dont like my comment

how about this one
does ron paul agree with this deal
does he believe its a good deal for iran

ignorance on this site

there are some very ignorant people on this site
everyone who thinks this deal is great
well there not looking at the whole picture
#1 iran cant trade in gold
#2 they have to accept petro dollar
#3 they were forced into a deal, and as a sovereign nation, I believe no country has the right to force them into anything
#4 now we have a degree of control over them that we didn't have before
and I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons why this deal undermines there sovereignty
I tried explaining this in an earlier comment and kinda failed as I was extremely down voted, because everyone here thought I was a neocon protecting ted cruz and that I thought iran was dangerous or something because I didn't praise Obama admin for the deal
so who's gonna down vote me

Not me

I agree with your points on Iran, which are well said.

definitions

Iran: nation state, created in a bloodless revolution by a clerical figure.
The interim agreement regarding Iran's nuclear program is a result.
Israel: nation state, created in a bloody, violent revolution.
Cruz is a result.
Kudos to you, pres. O and Sec. K

how

is cruz the result? As in cruz is the result of support for Israel's right to exist and defend the land it won in that bloody, violent revolution AKA Independence from the UN?

WHY is Hezbollah considered a

WHY is Hezbollah considered a terrorist organization? It's enemy is not the US, but Israel. And why is Israel it's enemy? Cause Israel occupied and bombed Lebanon for about 20 years. Israel and her supporters are just upset that Hezbollah defeated Israel!

Lebanon

I had a friend in graduate medical education who was in the US for residency. He was of Armenian descent and lived in Lebanon. His quote was "The Palestinians came in and ruined everything." He might have gone back, but being an Armenian and Catholic meant he would be a good target! (Or, in other words, he would have a big target on his back)! The Hezbollah were just as bad as the Israelites, if what he says is true! And, if I remember correctly, Israel only responded to attacks against them, on Israel's soil!

Jesus was a Jew, and you expect many of us to believe you?! Hezbollah is rightly called a terrorist group.

And who forced the

And who forced the Palestinians to go to Lebanon? Israel! I can't believe how ignorant some of you are on this subject. The Palestinians are the Nigg_rs of the Middle East, but that is not their fault.

And why don't you excuse Palestinian violence? After all, they only practiced terror BECAUSE Israel stole their homes and kicked them out, or occupied them. Be consistent.

And who forced the

And who forced the Palestinians to go to Lebanon? Israel! I can't believe how ignorant some of you are on this subject. The Palestinians are the Nigg_rs of the Middle East, but that is not their fault.

Because

according to those who I am in debate with, the U.S. should STAND for Israel thick and thin, and at any/all costs. They continue to cite msm articles but do not think for themselves. It is what they are told to believe.

During this debate, I am considered among neocons to be an isolationist who has no knowledge of the direct terrorist threats to our nation.

Other than that, I do not have a logical answer :-(

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

not me

No country has a perfect government, not even Israel.

From my perspective.. Israel is the most advanced FREE MARKET, is the most sovreign country, with protection of freedom for the people than any place on Earth. I am amazed and excited what advances they are making. I LOVE seeing what Israel is producing, and I wish that it was us..

I see some of the projects.. there's one in Negave where they have set up a hydroponic system that uses biodegradable ceramic solar power (which most of Israel is solar power, but they get power from the water.. waste water.. an eco system, though they just made natural gas and oil finds).. I see the headlands out here where I live.. (Koch owns them) and I think.. "Man, that system in Israel would be PERFECT for that Koch property.. we would be re-using and recycling waste water to grow massive USDA 100% organic crops and even providing indepenent energy!!! WOW!!!"

Do you have any idea how many government layers I would need to go through.. and because the property is owned by Koch.. how many liberals will actually study the proposal? I think few.. I think most will freak as soom as they hear the word, "Israel" or Koch.. andf there would be huge protests and boycotts.

Now what I just told you was my idea.. and I'm no rocket scientist, but I promise you.. all rocket scientists are connected to Israel in some way, shape, or form.. and entrepreneurs.. why do you think China and India LOVE Israel? You didn't know that they do?

So because of the freedom, the innovation, the ability to trade from garbanzo beans to rocket science in Israel, many people with money are connected to Israel and of course they don't want to lose that connection, especially when that translates into many jobs.

Thus said.. you have people who support Israel for many reasons.. secular, religious, and most people I know believe that Israel has a right to defend itself.

And finally, many people I know don't see America as being that different than Israel when it comes to wiping people off a map and refusing to leave when you find out that your property belonged to an Indian tribe that is suffering on a reservation, or was anhilated.

So maybe it's time to stand for a "Never again"? while we live simple in the hopes the other's simply live.

Glad the debate over whether

Glad the debate over whether Cruz was a warmonger and therefore a neocon plant is over.

Ventura 2012

Me too.

But why do you have Ventura 2012 as a signature? Weren't you supposed to write-in Ron Paul?

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I made that sig years ago and

I made that sig years ago and never bothered changing it lol

Ventura 2012

I support IRAN

Any of you that think this is a negative are completely confused! IRAN has not gone to war with any nation in over 200 years.

The reason countries around the world hate them is because they oppose OPEC. They still have there own banking system. Which i might add is better then ours! Banker's can be put to death for charging more then 3% interest. As it should be!!!!!!!!!

Wait a second. America use to be the same no less then 150 years ago. Strange how things work isn't it!

i support iran and still think this is negative

I don't like this deal because I believe its bad for Iran
I don't understand why everyone thinks this is good for Iran
I think it could go either way it may work and everything is peaceful or
Iran just sold out and now under the banking cartels power
it is a concern I have
but I guess people here have a hard time understanding this
since i've been down voted so much for my comments and opinion

Excuse me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Iraq_War

OK, they were invaded so technically they didn't "go to war"...