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Victory Update: Hey, I Know You're Busy, But Some Pigs Really Need Your Help Right Now. Seriously

Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs
Please, help me put a stop to this. Take a moment to sign my petition
Thank you.
"Pete"
Undercover Investigator

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-tyson-to-stop-torturing...

http://youtu.be/T48yOYjz5sk
Submitted by HatedoftheWorld on Tue, 11/26/2013 - 02:31. Permalink

"Tyson Foods has terminated its contract with an Oklahoma pig farm after video was released of workers abusing the animals."
"A spokesperson for Tyson said: "We're extremely disappointed by the mistreatment shown in the video and will not tolerate this kind of animal mishandling. ... [We] will take possession of the animals remaining on the farm.""
"The owner of West Coast Farms told the outlet he's already fired the workers seen in the video."

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/tyson-foods-ends-contr...
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These are not men. They are creatures. They deserve to have their lives snuffed out with the same indifference and in the same violent fashion they inflicted on those animals. I sincerely hope they do.

I would hope that libertarians and conservatives would seek to rectify these issues on a state and local level. A nation-wide boycott, if necessary could make a huge impact.

But to request the federal government to step into another extra-constitutional aspect of life should probably be avoided at all costs.



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Just another reason I hate humans. We are a disease.

I won't watch. Nothing upsets me more than humans treating animals bad. Animals are way better than humans. Sign the petition.

Please do all of us a favor and join the brutal regime of the

communists--they usually put animals before people too.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Where exactly did you idiots

Where exactly did you idiots think your food was coming from?

We're just finding out. This

We're just finding out. This abattoir is obviously indulging in personal therapy seeking their own level of INHUMANE-NESS! I can be thankful that the rural area I live in is actively supporting the organic grown feed and free range livestock on smaller self-supporting farms. The animals are all treated humanely and the meat is reminiscent of real meat. The large poultry buildings are shunned the most. I don't buy my meat from the large chain grocers anymore. For that matter I don't buy my fresh produce there either. It's too far for me to go to get my fresh milk but I would if I had a larger family...so our dairy products are minimal although my eggs are fresh from organic fed free range chickens....so I'm lucky so far. Were that brutality enacted on our animals the perpetrators would not be fired they would be charged with cruelty to animals...I HOPE! Only "idiots" would put up with such depravity. This is not a vegetarian issue..this is a humanity issue.

Don't you fear

When the FDA learns you guys are doing the organic, self supporting thing they'll send in their heavily armed thugs to put a stop to it and "protect" you.

You know, no matter how I write this I still can't make it sound anything but stupid. And this is without the "armed thugs" bit added. The truely sad part is that I'm not joking.

LOL!

LOL!

I am more concerned about the

I am more concerned about the nature of man and its need to be so debased with its cruelty. Again and again...the evidence presents itself. Why would the cruel nature of these men stop here? If "God" gave us dominion over the animals and this is how we handle this responsibility then God's wrath be upon us. We're not worth saving. If I thought giving up meat would put an end to the cruelty bestowed on our animals I would do that and I like meat...but the nature of these beasts (the two legged ones) is still omnipresent I fear. ...and it is getting more and more out of control.I hope they don't recruit into the police force or the military or walk our streets as people. I'm rambling...I'm sorry I find this excruciatingly upsetting. I couldn't finish watching it.

This is why I stopped eating

This is why I stopped eating meat 15 years ago.... I just can't in good conscience support this industry...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Thank you for the post

I'm grateful for these organizations:

Thank you Adele Douglass, founder
Certified Humane Raised & Handled (Food label)
http://www.certifiedhumane.org/

Thank you to the founders of the HFA and
Gail Eisnitz, Chief Investigator*
The Humane Farming Association
http://www.hfa.org/

*And author of Slaughterhouse: The Shocking Story of Greed, Neglect, and Inhumane Treatment Inside the U.S. Meat Industry
http://www.amazon.com/Slaughterhouse-Shocking-Inhumane-Treat...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

While we believe such

While we believe such sentiments have merit, we also recognize that God, Himself, loves animals! He fancies their beauty and, as Pastor W. A. Criswell recognizes, “God has shown a penchant for varieties of life forms, and it would be difficult to imagine that this would not be perpetuated in the heavenlies.”[v] Indeed, we find that God values His living artistry so much that He even made some of the angelic beings to reflect the animal’s faces (see Revelation 4:6–8; Ezekiel 10:14). In addition to their artistic value, God loves the company of these creatures to the point that not even a tiny sparrow falls to the ground that He doesn’t account for (Matthew 10:29). Another amazing example of God’s concern for animals comes from the story of Jonah, in which it appears that the people of Nineveh were spared destruction because God wanted to have mercy on their children and animals (see Jonah 4:11)! Of course, to the delight of my wife, Nita, God is an equestrian and has already filled Heaven with lots and lots of horses (Revelation 6:2–8; 19:11; 2 Kings 6:17). His Son, Jesus, will even return someday on one such horse (Revelation 19:11–14).

It is further written in the Bible that:

God holds the lives of animals in His hands (Job 12:10).

He, Himself, feeds them (Psalms 104:21–30; Matthew 6:26).

They were created for His enjoyment (Revelation 4:11).

God never forgets about them (Matthew 10:29; Luke 12:6).

People who mistreat their pets are judged by Him as “cruel” (Proverbs 12:10).

Those who treat their pets kindly are called “righteous” (Proverbs 12:10).

Based on the following Scriptures, we also learn how the coming millennial reign of Christ will see animals restored to their pre-fallen conditions, and little children will be leading them about:

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice’ den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. (Isaiah 11:6–9)

His eye is on the sparrow. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uatCU8QzdyA

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

I couldn't watch all of it.

I couldn't watch all of it. Been thinking hard about going vegan. This may have sealed the deal.

oh yeah

I posted a link to this video on tyson's facebook ;) 2 times actually because I put one copy right under their video extolling the virtues of their farms.

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

I haven't viewed it, I have seen enough like this.

I quit eating land-based meats ~ May 2013. I don't eat any factory farmed meat products and I have only had literally a few meat meals since, Turkey and Chicken bought at Whole Foods from a somewhat local, organic, free range farm that ethically slaughters their animals and treats them with respect while alive.

I don't really have a solution to this other than protest, that's mainly why I quite eating land-based meats and especially not from any factory farm: I won't participate in it. I can't in good conscience just go along when the morals inside of me know it's wrong.

If you're going to eat land-based meats, you should try your hardest to ensure it is from organic, free range farms that ethically slaughter their animals and treat them with dignity while alive. Pigs also are some of the worst treated animals in farming operations, as evidenced by the acts linked above.

"Animals are not sentient beings and they don't suffer!" - Some Retard

Here's the dirt on pigs: They are perhaps the smartest, cleanest domestic animals known - more so than cats and dogs, according to some experts. But pigs don't have sweat glands, so they roll around in the mud to stay cool. A sign of their cleverness came from experiments in the 1990s. Pigs were trained to move a cursor on a video screen with their snouts and used the cursor to distinguish between scribbles they knew and those they were seeing for the first time. They learned the task as quickly as chimpanzees.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24628983/#.UpTkWpETsy4

Many people think of them as portly and stupid, but the NATURE program The Joy of Pigs shows us how intelligent pigs really are. (They are naturally lean, too, unless they are overfed by humans.) Pigs are smarter than any other domestic animal. Their ability to solve problems, like the pig I.Q. test on The Joy of Pigs, is well-documented, and they are considered by animal experts to be more trainable than dogs or cats.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/the-joy-of-pigs/smar...

I could not watch it at all.

I could not watch it at all. I have had 2 pet pigs. They are MUCH smarter than any dog or cat. They need to be treated like a kid, and are at least as smart as a 5 year old. My pig used to open the door with his nose, when he came inside. The door did not close, and opened inward. It took me less than 10 minutes to teach PigLee to close the door after he came in, and he NEVER forgot to do it.

To help some people who may be conflicted

The libertarian position is always by default, to keep the state out of it. Just like those libertarians who do not want the state to restrict abortion do not have that position because they are in favor of murdering babies. They have it because they know government power is dangerous and to be used as little as possible, and then a little less.

In other words just because we have misgivings about what the government will do with more power to regulate farms (and we are absolutely right to have them!) does not mean that we cannot be morally outraged at the curs who do this sort of thing.

I don't want the state to do anything. I would love to see them get the crap beat out of them though, and I'm very happy they got fired.

This idea that because we are offended by something, even morally outraged, means that the state must DO something is exactly the trap they set.

We, especially we, should not fall for the trap.

In fact I would argue it's all the hurdles and regulations the government puts in front of farmers that restricts competition and allows bad actors like this to continue. I'd bet Tyson knew about this, it was just cheaper to keep using them because the FDA keeps regulating farmers out of business.

We are what we eat.

We are what we eat.

I'm ashamed of you on this one Barracuda.

"They deserve to have their lives snuffed out with the same indifference and in the same violent fashion they inflicted on those animals."

You've obviously never worked a farm or hunted. Should a deer hunter be hunted down and shot in the neck in the same fashion he put venison on the table last night? I'm disappointed that this made front page on a libertarian site. Animals are not people and therefore do not have 'rights'.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

WRONG!!!! So WRONG!! First

WRONG!!!! So WRONG!! First you probably have no clue or couldn't define what "rights" are... Second, who are you to decide what "rights" other living things have? Are you the ultimate arbiter of who gets "rights"?

Clearly you don't have pets or ever loved an animal, and if you have, then let's see how you feel if someone decided to bash it's head in..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Stop getting so emotional. And yes, I've loved many animals.

Read some of my other comments.

Maybe you should tell me, who does get to decide who gets rights?

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I am not getting emotional.

I am not getting emotional. I am just making my point clear.

Why don't you define what "rights" are first and then we can discuss it.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

I'm using 'rights' the way most people understand the term.

I don't want to argue about semantics--you know what I'm referring to.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Don't use circular arguments.

Don't use circular arguments. Please, I am serious, tell me how you define rights. Telling me you use them the way other people use them is meaningless to me.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Okay, I would define rights as privileges that we are given

by our creator and therefore no fellow man has the right to take away from us. Privileges including, but not limited to-- being allowed to live and provide for ourselves without being murdered or harmed, taking dominion over the earth, defending self and family from harm, and believing what we choose to believe.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

I kinda knew I was gonna get

I kinda knew I was gonna get this type of definition. I find it interesting that so many people run around talking about rights this,a nd rights that and they really have no clue what rights are.

Defining rights as privileges. A privilege is something that is given to you and thus can be taken away so they are obviously not the same. Like being invited to a nice party is a privilege and not a right. So you can't define a right and a privilege as the same, because they mean two different things.

"being allowed to live and provide for ourselves without being murdered or harmed," So you are being allowed to live? By who?

You do understand now why I was reluctant that I would get a straight answer.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

being allowed by God.

I specifically said "no fellow man is allowed to take them away".

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

What about people that don;'t

What about people that don;'t believe in God?

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Not believing the truth doesn't change reality.

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Disagree...

I believe that all living things have rights.

I also hunt and have slaughtered domestic livestock for food such as chickens and rabbits. I have great respect for the animals that I kill as their sacrifice allows me to survive. Violence against another living thing should never be done out of anger or for fun.

Humans always think they are superior to everything else they come into contact with. I still don't fully understand how one can logically justify natural rights for humans but not for any other creatures.

We are nothing more than hairless monkeys.

I think the undercover investigator showed a great deal of self control and I applaud him. I would not have been able to exhibit such self-control. As I believe those animals have inherent rights, I would find myself justified in protecting those rights by any means necessary.

Just my opinion...

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

Define "natural rights."

Define "natural rights." Please...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...