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US Congress Passes Bill to Eliminate Fracking Regulations

‘On Wednesday, the House passed a bill that will block the Department of the Interior (DOI) from regulating fracking in states that already have regulations in place. The bill, H.R. 2728, passed the House in a 235 – 187 vote. Twelve Democrats voted in favor of the legislation and two Republicans voted against it.

“Hydraulic fracturing has been safely and effectively regulated by states for decades,” said Rep. Doc Hastings (R-WA), according to The Hill. “So the Obama administration’s proposed regulations are unnecessary.”

On Tuesday, Hastings added a last-minute amendment to another piece of oil and gas industry-friendly legislation that was also passed by the House on Wednesday. His amendment to the Federal Lands Jobs and Energy Security Act cuts government funding for renewable energy projects by 50 percent.’

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/11/23/house-passes-bill-elim...




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Liberty means liberty for all

The ninth and tenth amendments clearly cover this and almost every other federal regulatory abuse. The states and the people therein are well suited to manage themselves. Energy producers are not your enemy! Hopefully those of you boycotting fracking, nuclear, coal, hydro, and natural gas don't have your computer plugged into an electrical outlet...that would be hypocritical don't you think?

RON PAUL is the GOLD STANDARD of politics, his value never changes; it's tied to the CONSTITUTION!

So no Federal Involvement? Sounds like a Win for the States

Right?

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Like drug addicts, our connection is starting

to run out of sources so is working on ways of extracting more dope from the source. Of course this makes the neighborhood more dangerous.

Do we think of giving ip the drug? No, do we talk about cutting back. No.

Do we consider that we truly need clean air and water. No.

Do we need oil at all? No, but we are addicted to comfort and the notion that life should always be this easy for everyone.

We are really advanced beings with our science and it will solve all of these issues for us.

Wrong. We seriously need to examine every aspect of society and make changes now.

Can we stop doing all the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?

Quite the quandary.

Over the years I have seen a lot of info and concern over fracking here at the DP. My first gut instinct when I saw this was that this is not positive, but, examining this through the lens of libertarian and constitutionlist philosophy/political thought, removing any power from the federal government and transferring it to the states seems like a positive move.

I am concerned about fracking. From what I have seen, some implementations of it have not been as safe as reported. Other areas don't have a problem. I'm not willing to blanket say that "all fracking is bad!" It might be some companies wells and equipment is better designed and better built than others, and maybe that's why some areas have problems with contamination in their water, and some don't.

Amen. Yeah i first read the

Amen. Yeah i first read the headline I said to myself this cant be a good thing. Of course im against regulation from the federal government, but why would the government choose not to regulate this but regulate othet thing's? Theres someyhing up here! Its so obvious, im not sure what though.

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Fracing has been going on since the 1940's. You should actually applaud this legislation because it leaves environmental regulation of industries to the states, also known as Federalism.

Southern Agrarian

Yeah, that's worked SO well for them!

It's much easier to buy off a state legislature than going through the federal level with all its spotlight on what you're doing. It's not that I like federal government taking over the states but these companies are already too big for the feds to handle, how could a state possibly stand up to their corruption?

The only way I'd support this is if the Feds stopped the states from passing any legislation that stops people from suing these companies. If all lawsuits are put back on the table, then, hey, let the states have at it.

Freakin' dumb-ass rinos.

Dangers of fracking

Another point is that fracking operations in one state can affect people in others, including but not limited to the quality of their drinking water. (Why are fracking operations exempt from the federal Safe Drinking Water Act?)

Take a quick trip down a fracking pipe: http://www.dangersoffracking.com/

Aside from the drinking water and chemicals issue, and all that wastewater left in open pools to pollute the air and living beings affected by that air (people, animals, and plants), fracking causes earthquakes. Additionally, there are the issues of methane geysers, the land grab by these companies, the fact that crops can be drawing in contaminated water, the effect on dairy cows, and the deleterious effect on animals that have come in contact with the fluid (less than a third of their calves survived). http://www.alternet.org/fracking/5-weird-and-frightening-eff...

This government and scientists & engineers do not *yet* understand how things interconnect (think: Butterfly effect). Fracking involves *large scale operations* - too big to be messing around with where nature and natural systems are concerned, no less with *known* dangerous consequences.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Again...

the fact that crops can be drawing in contaminated water,

Used frac water and drilling fluids are ejected into waste retention ponds that by State environmental law are required to have impermeable barriers lining them. By law this water is filtered and cleaned before it is trucked to waste water treatment plants or facilities run by private organizations that offer well pad services.

There will be no vegetation around as it is a fire hazard. All well pads have to have a defined distance from the well head to the nearest tree line or flammable vegetation. It is a safety issue.

Southern Agrarian

That's easily the funniest thing I've heard about fracing

Seriously, where do you get your news? The Propaganda department? Look at the real world. Learn some basic physics, dude. You're being played.

When you push enough pressure into a rock formation to crack it to hell, you're telling me that it will crack only where you planned? Every time???

You're telling me that EPA corners aren't being regularly cut at every turn? In a society where doctors and farmers push poison for profit and where religions push war and where every industry is virtually mandated to put profit before quality... You actually think any of those rules are being followed once the regulators have left the site? Go read some history.

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Go to a job site and try to prove this. You will be laughed off the pad.

Southern Agrarian

False

fracing causes earthquakes.

Talking heads have been dead wrong on this from day one. The tremors are caused by disposal wells, not fracing. Secondly, it's 'fracing' not 'fracking'. Fracing is a verbal-noun of 'Fracture job', there is no K.

Southern Agrarian

Who are you referring to as "talking heads?"

Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory/Columbia University?
U.S. Geological Survey geophysicists?
National Geographic?
Nature - The International Weekly Journal of Science?
University of Texas?...

Put "fracking" and "earthquakes" into your search bar. You'll find numerous articles on the direct & indirect connection between fracking and earthquakes. Maybe there are technicalities as to what part of the process is actually at fault (no pun intended). That's of no concern to me, just the bottom line.

I'm not a scientist myself, so I can only go by those I believe to be experts in the field. If you yourself are such an expert, I think you need to take up your issue with those who've published their research, not me. (Or provide some source to support your claim.)

As to the spelling... picky, picky, picky. I now see that the spelling has, indeed, been controversial. But it's common for English words ending in "c" to add a "k" before "-ing." Here, it preserves the "ck" sound of "fracture" vs. a spelling of fracing, which would rhyme with facing. To prevent that *mispronunciation*, some apparently have used "cc," i.e., fraccing. But likely that never caught on because it's associated with Italian, e.g., piccata or staccato - not that Italy has banned it. Well, except for a tiny city in the south, Bomba. (See list of bans: http://keeptapwatersafe.org/global-bans-on-fracking/ ) And so, in the end, "fracking" seems to have become the generally-accepted shorthand for "hydraulic fracturing." Again, I think your beef isn't so much with me *or* newscasters but with researchers *and* also the federal gov't (USGS). If you're here at the DP, guess you can just add it to your list!

And, oh, by the way. I just have one more thing to say to you.
Happy Thanksgiving.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Hyperbole

This government and scientists & engineers do not *yet* understand how things interconnect (think: Butterfly effect). Fracking involves *large scale operations* - too big to be messing around with where nature and natural systems are concerned, no less with *known* dangerous consequences.

Southern Agrarian

Thoughtful

Just like they did for BP.

Can you say Wayne Madsen?