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A Disturbing Trend - No Westerns On TV

I want to make an observation from where I am at in Washington on a Comcast full package deal. There is never Westerns on. Not in the classic, not to be seen. It's obvious.

You go down to Arizona and they have 2 different channels dedicated to Westerns. It's obvious. I know demographically they may have more retirees.

But is that any reason to censor it right off the air in Washington?

They would rather demonize guns, than show John Wayne or Clint Eastwood or many others as seen in the Sphaghetti Westerns.

Do you have them on TV where you live? (Not that I watch a great deal of TV)

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Michael Nystrom's picture

If there is no demand for something

and as a result of the lack of demand, the market does not provide it, can you truly call that "censorship?"

Amazon Instant Video has 123 pages of westerns that you can stream and watch on demand, at your leisure:

Westerns on Amazon

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The only reason anything is on TV is so they can put ads around it. The real show is not the movie, it is the commercials. Look at the movies that are on. Look at old fashioned, black and white westerns. Which is better fodder for ads?

This doesn't have anything to do with censorship, or demonizing guns. There are plenty of violent, shoot-em-up movies on TV that feature all manner of guns.

Nothing personal. Its strictly business.


http://youtu.be/0qvpcfYFHcw

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. - Alan Watts

Funny - I decide to weigh in on this thread, and there he is...

the sheriff of Dailyville, M. Newstream.

The problem with the old 'spaghetti Sergio Leone' westerns is all the quiet time that allows for thought. TV can't have contemplation when there could be adspace! But you can't cut it, cause it's part of the process...

Probably why we haven't seen The Departed on the tube except as a mini-series.

It was probably the pandas

The Old and the New

Just got done watching Django Unchained. Followed it up with High Plains Drifter. Then it's on to the ultimate western, Unforgiven.

Also, I heard Tarantino was writing another western. If you enjoyed Django Unchained (I did) then that's good news.

MeTV list of shows

MeTV has a number of decent westerns where guns are used civilly by citizen's and respectable sheriffs and deputies. The list is here: http://metvnetwork.com/programs.php

With all due respect, I will no longer be a voting prostitute for Constitution rejecting harlots.

its cause westerns are boring

westerns tend to be about some rancher/cowboy who during the course of the show has nothing to do with any animal that is not a horse, so that they can fight either the Indians or some robbers.

I am not saying that you cant make a good western, recently there was a mini series about the California gold rush and I thought that would be great as a tv series. I liked the new version of little house on the prairie that came out a few years ago but I think it got canceled, hated the old version, particularly when they got preachy about why nobody learns nothing without schools even though if you read the books is obvious that lara ingles was home schooled (although she does become a teacher later).

in my opinion westerns are just as cookie cutter as chick flicks. if you watch one you have pretty much seen 95% of them. Western involves, dessert/prairie, horses, old crappy town, bar, indians or robbers, and gun fighting where people usually make several particularly bad decisions. in general the few westerns that break the mold are okay, but like I said 95% are boring.

"CENTENNIAL"

My favorite western of all time.

NOSHEEPLE

Love it!

Never thought of it as a Western, though. Great segments about the cattle drive and the "not in my town" sheriff. One of my all time favorite mini series... that and "I Claudius".

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Tough Bar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIKHwVN-lLY

Rustler's Rhapsody

Bartender, give me a large glass of warm gin with a human hair in it.

What western movie is this

What western movie is this line from?

Bartender, give me a warn gin with a human hair in it.

The problem I see with these

The problem I see with these subsidized medias is the fact that they censor content. I could use Westerns as an example and correlate guns to the debate of censorship of content.
In a state that will vote on gun issues, putting the very issue of guns to vote to the people, at the same time not only minimizing content, but outright censoring Westerns, while at the same time outright demonizing guns in a lopsided debate in a very liberal state, it is noted that this area has been chosen to relinquish the airing of the John Wayne's and the Clint Eastwoods, because people may...associate with guns and vote in favor. Not saying that is the case, but that is a possibilility when there lacks competition in a free media.
Noted, Comcast and no Westerns for the area. Future legislation?
Any I look at it, it's the pussification of America campaign, and in this casee, not bringing freedom of choice to market.

Be Your Own Media!!!

The spaghetti westerns were classics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J78J-6PbhVo

The funniest bar, gambling, gun scene ever

A Tribute for Western Lovers

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I know I'm giving away my age category,

but I loved Cheyenne. He was a real man, and humble, too. Too bad the choreography wasn't better in those days.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

In '50s Black And White

... not 50 Shades of Grey.

The best western are always at heart a good morality play.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/western?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=F...

"...down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. He is the hero; he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor-by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world.

"He will take no man's money dishonestly and no man's insolence without a due and dispassionate revenge. He is a lonely man and his pride is that you will treat him as a proud man or be very sorry you ever saw him.

"The story is this man's adventure in search of a hidden truth, and it would be no adventure if it did not happen to a man fit for adventure. If there were enough like him, the world would be a very safe place to live in, without becoming too dull to be worth living in."

-- Raymond Chandler, 1950

Outlaw Josey Wales


http://youtu.be/mFfdfYN4lsw

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment

There is no duration defined in the Oath

Westerns did much to destroy liberty.

Being from a western state, I love westerns. But since becoming aware of the principles of liberty, I have noticed that westerns were used by the film industry to destroy our concept of constitutional governance.

Think how many westerns you've seen where a marshal or sheriff bans guns in HIS town; or a marshal or sheriff says, "I'm the Law."

They are/were not the Law! The Law is the Constitution and all laws that are constitutional which are passed in a constitutional manner. Period.

This is how tyranny has been promoted in a way that causes most Americans to like it.

It has had a subliminal effect on us.

Sorry to ruin your next "good" western!

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

Dunno about that ..

Westerns also celebrate the rugged individualist, the self-sufficient the hard working people that built the country West.

The Sheriff in those movies was more likely to hand guns out than ban them. In fact I can't think of a single film offhand where the Sheriff banned weapons?

Unforgiven.

Little Bill (played by Gene Hackman) didn't allow guns in his town. Kicked ol' English Bob (played by the late Richard Harris) outta town for having a gun on him.

Hang Em High had a similar premise.

Agree with your first sentence.

I just watched one. I forget the name, but it was an episode of "Wanted; Dead or Alive", starring Steve McQueen.

Of course, it is always a bad sheriff that would do something like that, and again, it is the script writers, that make him say it, I do not know if there were ever any real sheriffs who did that, which is the point I was making about Hollywood conditioning us through westerns to accept federal usurpation of power and trampling of our rights.

If I can ever make the time , I hope to create a compilation of the many instances I have seen unconstitutional acts being made common by the movie industry in western movies alone.

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17

Why

Do you even have or pay for the "full package" deal if you don't even watch TV? Just quit it!

Anybody got a favourite?

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is high on my list.

The Cheyenne Social Club


http://youtu.be/OTA_z4Lb2Vo

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment

There is no duration defined in the Oath

it's those guns they have

it's those guns they have conscientiously chosen to withdraw from airing in my opinion.

Be Your Own Media!!!

Well, Pardner...You're in Luck

...Just tune in to this youtube channel, kick off yer boots, and enjoy the GREATEST Western of ALL TIME...
FULL MOVIE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOx9yLYg8yo

TRAILER:

http://youtu.be/Q5vvYBxyPzo

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Open Range is great but...

What about Unforgiven? What about Once Upon A Time in the West?

Those gotta be at least top three.

Unforgiven

IS in my top 5 list.
It's just that Open Range illustrates much of the Liberty Movement's rugged individualism outlook.
It also exemplifies the struggle against corrupt regimes, and the spread of liberty...once it gets a spark.

A truly Libertarian-Cowboy-Western

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Watched the first 15 minutes and loved it

Earmarking it for later. Today is about the turkey.

Great...and Hope You Enjoy It

...and the turkey as much as I do.
Good to see you still around here.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Open Range

... with Costner is the greatest western of all time?!?

Sergio Leone rolls over in his grave my friend.