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9/11 Is Unravelled. Every Detail of Evidence Is Examined and Proven. All That's missing Is The Patience To Digest It.

It's Done. It's Over. This Series of videos demonstrates the utter fallacy of the official version of September 11, 2001.

http://youtu.be/e4TMqsQv740
Do you have the patience?

http://youtu.be/swQaDU1VogY
Do you have the will?

http://youtu.be/uSct1jqWUCI
Do you have the courage?

http://youtu.be/ScnVgAoV1e0
Will you accept the mission to expose people to the truth and break the back of the massive deception that has put America on it's heels?

The Journal of 9/11 Research
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9/11 Issues
Yes, there are issues with 9/11!!!
"A time comes when silence is betrayal."
- Martin Luther King
http://www.drjudywood.com/



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Aaaaaaaaand now what?

Aaaaaaaaand now what?

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.

http://shadesofthomaspaine.blogexec.com

Also author of Stick it to the Man!

http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Man-Richard-Moyer/dp/1484036417

Eternal debate vs. Irrefutable Fact

Wow, a lot of people have really fallen for this conspiracy and "truther" debate, which was manufactured by the perpetraters themselves to keep people's eye off the ball.

On 9/10/01 airline options trading spiked 3000 times over their normal trading volume.

The government has the records of who was trading them right now and knows exactly who it was.

Funny that no "truthers" ever mention this. Hmmmm... It's because they've fallen right into the propaganda trap the perpetraters wanted them to fall in to, i.e. to forever ask peripheral questions (and get debatable answers).

My go-to line.

Saudi royalty funded a Saudi-led team of Saudis to blow up the WTC. And the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.

Exactly how the buildings blew up...does it matter?

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.

http://shadesofthomaspaine.blogexec.com

Also author of Stick it to the Man!

http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Man-Richard-Moyer/dp/1484036417

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"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

Yes I've seen this

And while there are some interesting anomalies in the available evidence that deserve to be looked at, the plausibility of a pre-planned controlled demolition of a building damaged by something as chaotic as a plane strike is very low. In fact, there was a chance that building 7 might not get damaged at all by the plane strike. Further, there was no motive to bring building 7 down, other than a sketchy insurance scam.

Its easy to cherry pick incomplete data in the NIST theory. But The paper provides no explanation of how a clandestine controlled demolition might have been done, or even the evidence that might prove that. (and please don't point me to yet another stupid youtube video about George Bush's Cousin's Dog's construction company.)

The burned cars next to leafed trees was odd.

Given the Earth's electric field of about 100 volts/meter what sort of electric charge would build in a free-grinding fall like that? What proposed explanations have been given for the car fires and unburned trees?

I'll take my Liberty, it's not yours to give.

9/11 was like a "Trade Show" for the latest

weapons of urban, targeted, mass destruction.

Look how far we've evolved since the days of the Daisy Cutter Bomb of the Vietnam War

ha ha ha ha

She's a fraud, but funny. Very much reminds me of this interview.

I disregard all "proof" 911 videos

If you have proof, Write something up, so I can examine it, argue with specific points, and write specific rebuttals.

Videos, on either side, should be taken as propaganda and deception.

Turn up the sound

There are words on the video

I'd rather read the words myself

so I can go back reread easily, particularly when something stupid is presented as fact without evidence, as happens over and over again. Also I'd prefer not to hear the Cheesy dramatic background music.

Video is good for propaganda, not learning, and that has been shown over and over again.

MSM! Who owns you?

While I try to keep an open mind, I lean toward controlled demolition because of building 7. The most glaring disinfo is the omission of Israeli involvement despite plenty of hard & coincidental evidence. Were factions of our government involved? Absolutely. The sophistication alone should be enough to dispel the 19 Arab hijacker lie. The compromising of the crime scene by Rudy Giuliani is another anomaly. The aerial photographs of clean angle cut steel girders by the hundreds was one reason for the quick removal of them by Rudy. The photographs can be argued, severed girders would not hence their quick disappearance. Molten girder cuts still glowing witnessed by first responders add even more to the obvious. The worst is the overwhelming disinformation foisted on us in order to keep us from investigating the real perpetrators & beneficiaries of this heinous act, our Jewish allies. Think of all the bloodshed, American & others, to maintain the supremacy of the illegal state of Israel in the middle east. That motive should be crystal clear. War on terror? Really? Let's not forget the hijacking of our rights by the so called Patriot Act & everything else that followed.

Relevant and current commentary on the subject at hand...

http://youtu.be/aRJozXNnsHI

*Worthy of millions of views. How is it possible that this guy isn't a household name? I believe that will somehow change.

fireant's picture

What's missing in your "proof" is structural evidence.

The structural remains show no sign of any artificial dismemberment. They show clearly the buildings were wrested apart at their structural connections. Bones don't lie.

Undo what Wilson did

Yes, most of the structural evidence was destroyed...

And was not available for analysis - even to NIST (who were given specific instructions as to what their "investigation" was to cover), who said...

"The scarcity of physical evidence that is typically available in place for reconstruction of a disaster led to the following approach":

Source:
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/wtc_about.cfm

Just because this is the "greatest loss of life and property damage in U.S. fire history and constituted the largest structural failures in world history", some silly people like the victims families, engineers, architects and fire fighters expected the evidence to be protected and preserved - along with the human remains - at least until the investigation was over.


http://youtu.be/8UHydM-G1fs

But hey ho! As successor to Rudy Giuliani Mayor Bloomberg said:

"If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that's in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn't tell you anything."

Source:
http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/groundzero/china_baost...

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NIST is irrelevant

The forensic investigation was concluded long before NIST was assigned it's task, which did not include a forensic criminal investigation. The criminal forensic investigation was conducted by Dr. Gene Corley, a structural engineer collapse investigation specialist with impeccable credentials. Corley has stated for the record his team indeed looked for evidence of controlled demolition, and found no evidence of controlled demolition. His conclusion was that two airplanes caused all the damage. He inspected the structural remains on site and at the land fills, and no material was cleared for re-cycling without his team signing off on it, and none was re-cycled for 6 months after the fact.
If anyone questions Corley's findings, there are hours and hours of video and untold photos available for your review. They cover both the site and the landfills from day of and on. There is not one sign of controlled demolition in any of them. All structural remains confirm Corley's findings, that the buildings broke apart at their connectors.
Since suspicion of criminality beyond flying the airplanes into the buildings had already been ruled out, NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology), not at all any sort of criminal investigatory agency, was assigned the task of further determining the specific cause of initiation of collapse for the entire complex. In the case of 7WTC, NIST failed due to not accurately modeling damage from the collapse of the North Tower, for what reason I know not. Beating up on NIST is beating up on a dead horse, and a royal waste of life's precious moments.

Undo what Wilson did

Forensic Investigation?

Although the Building Performance Study team (Carried out with the cooperation of NIST from the outset [Chapter 1, page 1 - World Trade Center Building Study report]) - headed up by Dr. Gene Corley - started discussing how site studies should be organized and which agencies would be most useful, the only team to enter ground zero immediately was the FEMA Urban Search and Rescue team.

"The BPS team mobilized to the WTC site and conducted field observations during the week of October 7, 2001."

Source:
World Trade Center Building Study report (Chapter 1, page 7)
http://www.webcitation.org/5spvzRCDS

On March 6, 2002 a hearing took place in the House of Representatives before the Committee on Science entitled:

LEARNING FROM 9/11 — UNDERSTANDING THE COLLAPSE OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER

On page 11 of the record it states:

The investigation has been hampered by a number of issues, including:

No clear authority and the absence of an effective protocol for how the building performance investigators should conduct and coordinate their investigation with the concurrent search and rescue efforts, as well as any criminal investigation: Early confusion over who was in charge of the site and the lack of authority of investigators to impound pieces of steel for examination before they were recycled led to the loss of important pieces of evidence that were destroyed early during the search and rescue effort. In addition, a delay in the deployment of FEMA's BPAT team may have compounded the lack of access to valuable data and artifacts.

Difficulty obtaining documents essential to the investigation, including blueprints, design drawings, and maintenance records:

The building owners, designers and insurers, prevented independent researchers from gaining access — and delayed the BPAT team in gaining access — to pertinent building documents largely because of liability concerns. The documents are necessary to validate physical and photographic evidence and to develop computer models that can explain why the buildings failed and how similar failures might be avoided in the future.

Uncertainty as a result of the confidential nature of the BPAT study:

The confidential nature of the BPAT study may prevent the timely discovery of potential gaps in the investigation, which may never be filled if important, but ephemeral evidence, such as memories or home videotapes, are lost.

The confidentiality agreement that FEMA requires its BPAT members to sign has frustrated the efforts of independent researchers to understand the collapse, who are unsure if their work is complementary to, or duplicative of, that of the BPAT team.

In addition, the agreement has prevented the sharing of research results and the ordinary scientific give-and-take that otherwise allows scientists and engineers to winnow ideas and strengthen results.

On page 14 of the record it states:

In the month that lapsed between the terrorist attacks and the deployment of the BPAT team, a significant amount of steel debris—including most of the steel from the upper floors—was removed from the rubble pile, cut into smaller sections, and either melted at the recycling plant or shipped out of the U.S.

Some of the critical pieces of steel—including the suspension trusses from the top of the towers and the internal support columns—were gone before the first BPAT team member ever reached the site. Fortunately, an NSF-funded independent researcher, recognizing that valuable evidence was being destroyed, attempted to intervene with the City of New York to save the valuable artifacts, but the city was unwilling to suspend the recycling contract.

Ultimately, the researcher appealed directly to the recycling plant, which agreed to provide the researcher, and ultimately the ASCE team and the SEAoNY volunteers, access to the remaining steel and a storage area where they could temporarily store important artifacts for additional analysis. Despite this agreement, however, many pieces of steel still managed to escape inspection.

More here:

September 12-October 2001: Steel Debris From WTC Shipped Out of US for Recycling.
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091201steels...

On top of all this organized chaos was the organized crime...

When officials uncovered a criminal scheme involving the theft and diversion of WTC steel to unofficial dump sites, security was beefed on November 26.

Late September 2001-November 26, 2001: Theft of WTC Steel Leads to Tight Security Measures

Broken [Daily Telegraph] link from above source:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1...

It is estimated that the scrap metal value of the 255 tons so far recovered would be about £10,000. The detective said: "That is not a great deal in itself but the operation to steal from the WTC was obviously not going to be limited to the 255 tons we have found."

Look who's back on the scene

Look who's back on the scene to spread more dis-information.

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You're so GD full of crap your eyes are brown.

DA.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Total B.S.

I agree that 9/11 was an inside job. However, not due to some ludicrous "directed energy weapon" theory that has no basis in fact. The facts and evidence are all completely and totally supportive of the controlled demolition theory.

People who talk about this DEW crap make the whole Truth movement look bad. It's similar to the people who talk about reptilians. They'll say legit conspiracies like JFK and 9/11, but then say they were done by reptilians. These CRAP "theories" hurt the Truth and Liberty movement.

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/505-ae...

LOL, the entire truth

LOL, the entire truth movement, your crazy version too, hurts the liberty movement. If you know anything about what it would take for controlled demolition of the 3 buildings you know that theory is completely idiotic. Yet here you are, one kind of crazy calling another kind of crazy...CRAZY! Oh the irony.

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

The CD theory

is impossible?

Lloyd Christmas: What do you

Lloyd Christmas: What do you think the chances are of a guy like you and a girl like me... ending up together?
Mary Swanson: Well, Lloyd, that's difficult to say. I mean, we don't really...
Lloyd Christmas: Hit me with it! Just give it to me straight! I came a long way just to see you, Mary. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary Swanson: Not good.
Lloyd Christmas: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary Swanson: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Lloyd Christmas: So you're telling me there's a chance... YEAH!

Nothing is impossible, winning the Powerball 10X in a row isn't impossible. Sure the odds are 17 to the 28th power against it, but not impossible. Probability is a completely different story and all the 9/11 truthers just can't comprehend the difference.

The sheer number of people that would have had to have been involved, the amount of explosives that would have had to have been involved with no one noticing them being put into position when you know the scale of the work that would have had to have been involved to put them into position, hijacking all the planes successfully and then flying them into the building without detonating said explosives immediately or at least cutting off their ability to be detonated, damaging a third building with debris so you can have a plausible story why it fell..and on and on and on...well, you have better odds of winning the Powerball 10X in a row.

People believe improbable stupidity not out of logic, but from pure bias. They want to believe it, so they accept anything that reinforces those beliefs, no matter how ridiculously improbable.

9/11 Truthers are Lloyd Christmas

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

Occam's Razor.

Not only that, but no one can explain why regular old bombs wouldn't be terroristy enough, and why the plotters would unnecessarily complicate matters with all the jets.

Furthermore, in the words of Hilary Clinton, what difference does it make? What would you DO with this incontrovertible proof?

It's all very interesting to talk about, but no one can quite answer "Now what?"

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.

http://shadesofthomaspaine.blogexec.com

Also author of Stick it to the Man!

http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Man-Richard-Moyer/dp/1484036417

No need for extreme responses

Your argument attempts to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Any chance that you could argue sans the hyperbole?

The hyperbole was asking "is

The hyperbole was asking "is it possible." I'm illustrating the ridiculousness of the question. The fact the biased brains of the fanatics clouds their judgment is their problem, not mine.

I notice you didn't address anything about why I said it was so improbable. Guess your special glasses missed that part. Hurray for intellectual honesty!

"In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."

~ Ron Paul, End the Fed

hmmm

IMPROBABLE
:unlikely to be true or to occur; also : unlikely but real or true

Not impossible?

Raceboy your response confirms you're a moron. Sorry.

But let me count the ways...


http://youtu.be/vrJiKbK0tVM