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Go Experience Combat Yourself, and THEN Tell Me about PTSD

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PTSD or GUILT?

...nice blog...good articles, BUT:
Soldiers don't have a monopoly on PTSD.
NOT to demean those who do suffer from it; specifically "combat-related PTSD"...
It should be also noted that although there will be those who don't display symptoms NOW may experience this in the years to come.
....and it will appear without warning in the most unexpected circumstance.
....and then we have the "actors" looking for a "payday/benefit".
Believe me...they do exist.
Was your friend "processed" at Fort Polk?
That's one of the bases where they get assessed and debriefed.
And then there's the drugs that they are "in possession of" while there....180 days worth...used as "currency" in card games.
Many "volunteered" for an "educational payoff", getting more than they bargained for.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

PTS is a natural effect.

It happens as a natural result.

http://www.dailypaul.com/273258/ptsd-not-mental-illness-not-...

Pandas eat bugs.

So what is it about Christianity

that these guys just don't GET?
The devils most damaging playground is the Bible, and gits like these, who would have us believe that Jesus Christ wants us to murder and maim His children for the glory of God. Yeah right!
I have seen PTSD in an acquaintance after an horrific accident,
it is very real and totally debilitating.

Gits!

Haven't heard that word since Monty Python.

I have a good friend w/PTSD from Afghanistan.

He is a train wreck.

Stress after a Traumatic event or series of events

Stress after a Traumatic Event or series of events is not a Disorder. Putting young men & women in harms way, or ordering them to disturb the peace of others, for profit is a Disorder.

Great article!

"Cash Flow Christianity" is

"Cash Flow Christianity" is not real Christianity.
I don't need counterfeits like Copeland to intercede between me and my God.
I have Jesus.
Not some money blind man who strayed from God when he got a hit of the money rush.

those people are delusional--

the televangelist and the other 'guy'--

These people actually believe the middleastern wars are led by GOD?

!

I think the PTSD of war has to be worse than many other experiences; violence does produce something sad in the human heart and mind--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

You Can Suffer PTSD or Severe Trauma Without Being In Combat

Its called hypnosis..Let me explain here..

When i was growing up I saw a young neighbor boy get mauled by a big boxer dog. From that day forward evertime he saw a boxer dog he would cringe in fear. Why? Because he resented the attack and the fear got inside and stayed inside.

Most of you are walking around in fear of something. Maybe its a middle aged lady who reminds you of your mother who would beat you senseless everytime you skipping catechism classes on Saturday..

When I was four years old my mother pointed out to me a black man falling all over himself drunk while we were both downtown running errands for my dad. She said that he was a bum and that is what bums do when then drink. Consequently,from that point on and for many years I would get fearful everytime I saw an elderly inebriated black man not to mention I didn't have as much as a sniffle of booze until i was in college.

Trauma can do many things to many people and it doesn't have to be accomplished during combat my friend.

Maybe some of you can cite other examples of types of trauma; PTSD, Shell Shock

you must not resent the injustice or trauma or experience. When you do it gets inside of you and its very hard to deal with it.

Hypnotic States of Americans: A spiritual survival manual for every American family in a perilous world
http://www.amazon.com/Hypnotic-States-Americans-spiritual-su...

in fact most PTSD cases are not from combat

but that wasn't the intent of this article.

While I have only seen combat

While I have only seen combat in games, I can tell you that I can imagine that only those who are really mentally strong could come away from the real thing and not be scarred.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Come home guiltless?

When you are committing crimes against humanity for profit?
I would be full of guilt too. I feel for these men and women.

I just watched a movie that wonderfully depicted the underlying nonsense of war, the arrogance of those who discredit our soldiers while they sit at home safe and secure, and the fact that underneath the uniform all men are exactly the same. The movie was called Joyeux Noël - it told the true story of the Christmas Truce that happened on the front lines during WW1 in 1914.

I highly recommend it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424205/

Chritmas Truce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

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Having avoided the Vietnam

Having avoided the Vietnam war I can say one thing for sure about PTSD. I'm grateful that I did not have to suffer it...

Beware the cult of "government"...

Id like to share a story...

I volunteered for Ron Paul in the 08 election in a big way. I was also outside of two military bases and it was a big reason I decided to get involved.

One of the people that volunteered with me was an Iraq vet. He was in his late 20's, very bright and very patriotic.

We were standing outside of a meeting one day and he told me he was waiting to get his disability so that he could go to school. I looked him up and down and said 'WTF.. you have all your fingers and toes. Why are you getting disability??'

He looked at me in disbelief, like I had called him a liar or a cheat. With tears welling up in his eyes, he described a horrible situation. A car driving towards a check point in Iraq right after the invasion. Them yelling to the driver to stop.. the driver not stopping.. and then filling the car full of bullets... killing an entire family, including three children.

Im sitting here with tears in my eyes now.

Recently, I had to pull my friend out of a bar. He had to much to drink and was getting aggressive. He was on the ground during the invasion. Signed up because he loves his country.

He broke down into tears and said.. 'I thought she was going for a gun.' He then told me he had never said a word to anyone about it. Seeing him ready to explode with emotion shook me up pretty bad. He's a great guy. Honest. Hard working. Good dad.

Yes. PTSD is very real. Killing people is not healthy for anyone.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

I am sure PTSD happens all

I am sure PTSD happens all the time when you kill innocents. Not saying it was your friend's fault...he had to do what he had to do to survive, but the other side of the equation is that he signed up to go kill innocent people in another country...so in a way it is very much his fault. The guilt is valid....but the blame is not his alone...it is shared by those who ordered him to be there where he was promoting some corporate agenda...NOT defending his country. I am sure he would sleep far better if he was repelling an invasion of the US and had to kill someone.

they were both very young

when they signed up.

Both believed they were on the right side of the fight.

I don't believe they signed up with the intention of killing innocent people in another country. They were young... signed up to defend our country.

We are all entitled to be young once. Sometimes the choices we make as young people can haunt for an eternity. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

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The last sentence is info-free

I'm not picking on you; I was thinking about this phrase earlier today for some reason. My internal response was, "so, what the hell is the road to heaven paved with, bad ones?"

We were all young once. Some of us signed up to be murderers, some of us did not.

I love you. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.
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Very moving and touching story

PTSS is not just for vets.. anyone who experiences a tramatic situation and changes their life in a profound way that they can not "move on".. I hope your friendship continues to help him forever!

peace