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Before and after the "Holocaust": Jewish population numbers in 1933 and 1948

Revisionist history teaches us a lot of things that are wrong, not that Hitler was an angel, but the more you read, the more you learn.

http://therebel.org/news/editorial/before-and-after/

In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their vast relief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germans but from the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases of relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.



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Reviewing the holocaust comments...

Reviewing the holocaust comments I find that there's no way to have a true discussion on this subject. Those on both sides tend to let emotion get in the way of discussion which is the tool that our controllers want to use to divide us. Liberty is the most important issue and I don't see why both sides can't admit that there are errors in history!!! There is NOTHING about history that I take for "gospel" including the Gospel! As a Christian I recognize that I cannot know 100% of what happened 2000 years ago since what I know today has been written by others and translated from other languages (and even if you know those languages there are issues with interpretation and author integrity). I do believe most of what is accepted Christian belief but I have also some disputes (mainly along the non-aggression principal that seems to have been lost along the way).

Why can't there be a mistake in the 6 million number? Why is this so adamantly defended by certain groups even though there's evidence to suggest it's not correct? Even some Jewish researchers have determined it's not correct. This alone is a red-flag for me regarding this subject (besides my built-in distrust for all things "written"). Instead we see hatred and violent language, veiled threats and extreme division.

I can work beside anyone who believe ANYTHING about the holocaust as long as they believe in Liberty and God given (or "natural" for those who prefer) rights for all...

Beware the cult of "government"...

Newspapers 1915-1938 - 6 million

This seems real. If so,...


http://youtu.be/Dda-0Q_XUhk

Totally agree, and

I shall continue to question anything that doesn't 'feel' right. Thanks.

So what is the point of this article?

It really wants to make a point that the Holocaust did not occur? Common now, even the Nazis admitted that it occurred. Yeah they killed a lot of people, and a lot of those were Jews. This isn't unexpected, it has always been done (just not Jews). Take Russia with the Gulags, 25 Million. China during its mass starvation, 50 million. Cambodia with its cleansing of intellectuals, 2 million.

We just learn more about the Nazi Holocaust because there is so much evidence of it, from video to pictures to survivors to the actual culprits. The other examples lacked evidence because they were extremely closed off nations. To deny that the holocaust occurred just sounds stupid.

For the most part, the Nazis did not admit it occurred.

The postwar courts were set up with the assumption that it did occur. This put the Nazis in a position that there only defense was they were following orders, were not involved, or knew nothing about it.
Hitler is reported to have told people the Jewish extermination stories were black propaganda like that of WWI where German soldiers were accused of cutting the hands off Belgian children.
Himmler in a magazine interview before the end of the war is quoted that the Jews were not being exterminated.
Lammers testified he asked Himmler about the extermination rumors and was told the Jews were being deported and resettled in the East. Lammers said he was shown photo albums of the resettlement.
Alfred Rosenberg, the administrator of the Nazi occupied eastern territories, testified that the Nazi rhetoric about extermination of the Jews was not what the war crimes court took it to mean, but rather, the goal of breaking Jewish political power.
Julius Streicher testified the final solution to the Jewish question was the establishment of a Jewish homeland into which Jews would be resettled from all over the world after Germany won the war. He said he had heard the accusation of the extermination of the Jews, but did not believe it.
Hans Frank, who administered occupied Nazi Poland, testified he did not know the Jews were being killed, but must have unwittingly participated in the activities after hearing Rudolf Hoess testify.
Hoess was tortured to get his "confession" and allegedly told another prisoner that there were ways to get people to confess to anything. His affidavit is full of contradictions and information that is untrue.
Albert Speer stated his exposure to the extermination of the Jews was he was once told not to go to Auschwitz.
Hermann Goering testified he didn't know anything about it as he was too busy running the German economy.
Like Hoess, Adolf Eichmann testified to a lot of nonsense. For example, he said he visited an extermination gas chamber that used the exhaust from a captured Russian submarine. The problem is the Germans never captured any Russian submarines.
Nazis who confessed to knowing about and participating in the extermination of the Jews seem to have always inserted nonsense in their testimony to let skeptics know they were lying.
The confessions of Kurt Gerstein and Perry Broad are similarly full of nonsense.

[F]orce can only settle questions of power, not of right. - Clyde N. Wilson

Nobody denied the Holocaust,

Just questioning the numbers. Is it wrong to question things?

It's not as pointless as you think.

The PERSECUTION of the European jews cannot be denied, and should never be made light of.
However as time marches on history has a remarkable way of exposing the "unquestionable facts" of written history.
Many of the photos of the gaunt starving camp victims are real, but the piles of dead bodies are now thought to have come from Russia.
This is not my computer, so I wont post a link, but check out The Leucther Report. The first forensics ever done in the death camps. Forensics don't lie, and Cyanide gas ALWAYS leaves a particular footprint. This was glaringly lacking.
As for the Nazis "admitting it"…people will tell you anything under severe and prolonged torture.
The story of the holocaust was to bring about and Agenda, and is still a multi million dollar industry.

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Wow! So what happened to 17 million Orthodox Catholics

and 69 million Protestants?

Evidently,

they don't count.

Spirit of 76

Give me your definition of a Jew.

You use it with a axe, but I don't think you realize what it means. Help me if I'm wrong.

Base

Here we go...

I know this is a trap, and I probably shouldn't, but here it is.

There are 2.
1) professed Jews of faith
2) genetic descendants of the Hebrews who were led by Moses into Judea.

Please don't try to educate us about who is a "real" Jew before you cite the authority from which you speak.

And please don't launch into the Khazar-Ashkenaz link/"Ashkenaz are not 'real' Jews" bullshi*. It's an OLD old Aryan nationalist theory from the late 1800s which has been thoroughly debunked by DNA science.

It never ceases to amaze me how neonazis and anti-semites consider themselves to be the foremost authorities on who is or who is not a Jew.

Sorry,

but the most recent gentic research done by Jewish Eran Elhaik, Johns Hopkins University of Health Research, proves the majority of Jews today come from Khazar lineage and not Hebrew/Israelite. This was first stated by research writer and former Zionist, until his findings, Arthur Koester, in his book 'The Thirteenth Tribe' and by Prof of Contemporary History, Univ of TelAviv, Shlomo Sand's book 'The Invention of the Jewish People', which was on the best sellers list in Israel for 19 wks. Now, Dr Elhaik has provided the 'emipircal evidence'. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-01/oup-nss011413...

Yes, I've read that study and it's not what the study says ...

In fact the study says that even the Khazar Jewish DNA shows that it originates in Judea, the same place and the Sephardim and Ashkenaz.

So, nice try, Stormfront boy, but it looks like you didn't even bother reading the very study you posted.

In other words, Ashkenaz, Sephardim and those you like to call "Khazar Jews" are all (95%-98%) descendent from the Hebrews Moses led out of Egypt, i.e they are all real Jews.

It's only a question, the fact you even think it's a trap is

revealing.

"There are 2.
1) professed Jews of faith
2) genetic descendants of the Hebrews who were led by Moses into Judea."

It's obvious to me that you are a racist individual that hates the message of Christ.

And you have spent your life trying to destroy that message. :)

All you know is deceit and plunder. Wow.

If you think it was a trap, it's one you have lived in for a long time. God Bless you Spirit, you are on a site that will help you.

You and your Stormfront

You and your Stormfront friends are the ones spewing racist filth. "The jews will be taken down," really?? גוי חלאה נאצית

Where is moderator to close this thread already?

Disregard government. Acquire liberty.

You sir are pissing down your pantleg.

I haven't Stormed anyone. And you haven't been a voice for liberty.

You are nothing but a plant.

http://www.dailypaul.com/user/47618

And you make Goldspan, and others that post against the truth suspect as well.

Your tagline is BullShit ;)!

whoop, taxonomy

religions are implicitly racial?

"It's obvious to me that you are a racist individual that hates the message of Christ"

I keep telling you the color of your comment box is not indicative of skin color.

It's telling.

Brushfire makes this reply to my post, even though it doesn't fit with anything written in it.

This doesn't stop the truth, it exposes the liars.

Religion

Is not implicitly racial. It's cultural comprising race, heritage and ethnicity.

I was pointing out that in this particular instance, you don't know what color a person's skin is via the Internet (joking that you think people are the color of their SKINS. Dude, computer joke.)

In between gospel sessions, you may want to consult a search engine. Also, don't be such a nancy boy.

Don't bless me and curse me in His name in the same breath.

I'm a Christian and I know what Christ says about deceit like that.

You have no idea what I know. You simply despise me, and anyone else, who is not a hate filled anti-Semite collectivist like you.

I noted below that:
1) you refused to answer the question as to whether you believed Ashkenaz were Jewish. That's revealing since it's a trait of neonazis to state they are not.
2) you refused to state how many Jews you thought NAZIs killed. That's revealing because you will now allow any negative light to be cast on your heros.
3) you stated "the Jews will be taken down"
http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/3274615
and further that the struggle against Jews has led you to a greater understanding of scripture.

I wonder what Jesus, who is a blood descendent of King David, through both his mother and father, would have to say about that.

You must be ashamed of your true beliefs since you refuse to state them here, and you want to call me names?

Wow.

I'm glad you are not my neighbor.

whoa there kittens

don't make me separate you guys. remember to use your words that are not things like "obviously you" and "racist"

meow

Kelly, you made that reply to ME

Why? I haven't used ANY Labels or Name calling. Who are YOU anyway?

Obviously

she's Kelly.

(See: appropriate usage of "obviously")

:)

LOL

I can see you are both Long Term supporters of Liberty. Neither of you answered any question.

My list of putting people on ignore is growing.

Repeat your question

...I must've missed your telekinesis...

I'm certain you never asked me a question.

The author of this thread is a loser

Anyone who says "Hitler was not an angel, but..." is a piece of shit.