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Before and after the "Holocaust": Jewish population numbers in 1933 and 1948

Revisionist history teaches us a lot of things that are wrong, not that Hitler was an angel, but the more you read, the more you learn.

http://therebel.org/news/editorial/before-and-after/

In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their vast relief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germans but from the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases of relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.

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There were witnesses to the

There were witnesses to the plane hitting the Pentagon but many jacka$$es question that as well.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Funny...

...how the neonazis downvoted your comment on 911 truth. Do they believe the official government story? Apparently. +1 from me!

I'm sorry

you can't see past blind emotion, friend. But not everything that we have been told is what it seems.

I mentioned fact and eyewitness testimony.

Not emotion.

You downvoted documented evidence from eyewitnesses. But I thought you were interested in the truth?

So which is it?

Oh, FBI_ Exposer

We've been down this road before, you and I. And I've already explained all of this to you. I'm not doing it all again just so you can continue to plug your ears and say "lalalala". The truth is that you don't want to hear the truth.

Also, your above posts contain no documents of any sort, just you rambling as usual. And I did not down-vote you.

History is written by the victors

and the Khazars won WW2, as evidenced by the new country they acquired.
Google the Balfour Declaration and Transfer Agreement.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

What a fucking piece of Shit.

What a fucking piece of Shit. Losers like you are the enemy of Ron Paul and a disgrace.

Just mentioning the holocaust attracts Hasbara Vermin

Just mentioning is sufficient to attract the Hasbara vermin within a very short time. They all know each other as well and they enjoy bullying dissenters with their chums. Really it is just like being back at school being bullied by the school gang. Usually the lead bully goes into to attack whilst others stand by making encouraging noises. We are 'told' that we live in a free society, but we don't! Free speech and debate are being squashed by the likes of BICOM, AIPAC and a small army of annoying Hasbara trolls. We must work together to stop them. From Truth comes Peace.

Amen,

some are afraid to speak up.

The politics of the holocaust are disgusting

In the Soviet Union alone, 13 million PEOPLE died. CIVILIANS. PEOPLE.
Of all walks of life and religion.

Jews, Christians, Muslims, Gypsies, atheists, homosexuals, communists, all swept up in the Nazi insanity.

So, not the fact it happened or who did it is disgusting....

...but you're view of the politics around it now. Hmmm....

Forest for trees? Or disingenuous jockeying?

Like I said, 13 million civilians in the Soviet Union alone

Succumbed to Nazi insanity. Just as I stated above.

So you are either intentionally misunderstanding to prove some moron political agenda or you are an actual idiot as most people in the topic have pointed out.

Though it's great that you made my point about drooling morons who try to play politics with it.

How many Jews?

And was it a specific policy of the NAZIs to depopulate Jews from Germany and exterminate Jews in the camps in Poland?

Can you simply just state it?

Why do you only care about the Jews that died?

I care about everyone that died.

I was only speaking about the U.S.S.R., but out of the 13 million or so civilians I think about 2 million were Jewish.

Why are you only obsessed about the Jews that died?

I don't, but it exposes the anti-Semite agenda....

....so I just want to get down to the root of it here.

So you do believe that at least? or around 2 million Jews were murdered by NAZIs?

You do NOT dispute that?

an influential prototype, exposing agenda

Lincoln’s old personal friend Grenville Dodge, who he had appointed as a military general, initially recommended that slaves be made of the Indians so that they could be forced to dig the railroad beds from Iowa to California (See Dee Brown, Hear that Lonesome Whistle Blow, p. 64). The government decided instead to try to murder as many Indians as possible, women and children included, and then to imprison the survivors in concentration camps euphemistically called 'reservations'.

When he became president, Grant made his old pal Sherman the commanding general of the U.S. Army and another "Civil War" luminary, General Phillip Sheridan, assumed command on the ground in the West. "Thus the great triumvirate of the Union Civil War effort," writes Fellman (P. 260), "formulated and enacted military Indian policy until reaching, by the 1880s, what Sherman sometimes referred to as ‘the final solution of the Indian problem’."

http://www.houseofpaine.org/sherman.html

This was Sherman’s attitude toward Southerners during the War for Southern Independence as well. In a July 31, 1862 letter to his wife (from his Collected Works) he wrote that his purpose in the war was: "Extermination, not of soldiers alone, that is the least part of the trouble, but the [Southern] people." His charming and nurturing wife Ellen wrote back that her fondest wish was for a war "of extermination and that all [Southerners] would be driven like the Swine into the sea."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2003/02/thomas-dilorenzo/what-lin...

The phrase The Final Solution was coined by General Sherman... Hitler studied the American method of dealing with "the Indian problem" and with the benefit of 20th century technological proficiency and soulless German efficiency, he was able to outdo even the horrors of Manifest Destiny -- another chilling phrase translated in Nazi Germany as Lebensraum.
http://open.salon.com/blog/sally_swift/2009/04/20/yom_hashoa...

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Hot topic for sure! When I dig into it a bit, I cease to worry about kpc.nc's agenda as I don't really get the notion that he's promoting genocide [or even bigotry].

Well, like I said in reply to someone else...

...I forget if it was in this thread or one of the other of the anti-semitic posts of the day, it's one thing to debate/argue/discuss the finer points of history in an intellectually honest way, it's quite another to do so with white identity or aryan nationalists.

There are those people here on DP. I count at least 10, sometimes as high as 20 active, though I may be over counting. Most have posted on this thread and the 2 other threads today.

I completely agree with you. That said, one cannot deny that these NOT-intellectually honest, collectivist people do exist, some, like I said, right here on DP. Their interest is not intellectually honest debate.

Ah, the anti-Semite agenda.

So you are a paranoid lunatic then.

To be honest, I really only worry about PEOPLE that die.

If you only track Jewish deaths I feel sad for you. It means you are actually racist.

I feel badly for the 250,000 people that died from the Asian Tsunami. I don't really break that number down into religious affiliation.

Whether it was this much Muslims, Jews or Christians it really makes no difference into how I feel about such things.

If Jewish lives are more important to you, then you are no better than the bloody Nazis.

Hitler was a person; are you

Hitler was a person; are you sad he died?

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

This type of post may work on other sites.

On Dailypaul, you just expose yourself as an idiot. And with a moniker such as yours, likely a paid idiot.

Nice try.

I do not "only track Jewish deaths."

I asked you a simple question. What number of Jews murdered by NAZIs do you NOT dispute? 1? 10? 100? 1000? 1 million?

Can you answer that simple question?

I just gotta ask you this second question, though. Sorry for asking you multiple questions here because I don't want it to get too complex for you, but... are you inferring there are no such thing as anti-semites? If so, what were NAZIs, lovers of Jewish people?

Spirit

It seems that you have researched a great deal about the 'Holocost'.

What do you know about the Reformation? Have you researched the Dark Ages, the Inquisition? The very fight that brought about free speech?

That speech that allows you to discuss your issues here. You sir(?) are still living in the dark age mindset.

MILLIONS of people have been killed by government decree. People in the US supported Hitler, some of them Jews.

Only when people respect the truth will we not deal with bull shit. ;)
You obviously aren't here to respect the truth.

I'm asking the same of you.

So, don't change the subject.

The subject here in question was the number of Jews murdered by NAZIs.

So, how many were there then? How many Jews, then, were murdered by NAZIs?

Tell us what you believe to be the truth, if the truth is what you believe in.

I've looked at the pictures

I've seen them, but I also know many of them were Christian Germans, that people like you want to proclaim your glory.

And your glory is NOT spiritual, you glory is nothing but political.

That is what I believe to be the truth.

I've researched history. Jews, Christians, and followers of Islam have lived in harmony for 100's of years, together.

Political people LIKE YOU, always are the source of the problem.

You sir(?) are who you are.

America is nothing more than an idea. It seems you want to destroy it.

Nice try.

I don't debate that it was not just Jews. Further, I'm not being political, you are. You continually attempt to bring up this subject of the holocaust and defend your position that Jews are lying about "the numbers" - but to what end?

Rather than just answering, I see you've resorted again to ad hominem attacks. You act like you are hiding something. Are you ashamed of your own opinion or belief?

Why can't you answer the simple question. If you do not believe NAZIs killed 6 million Jews, how many Jews do you think NAZIs killed?

1? 10? 100? 1000? 1 million? It's not political. State your own opinion about it. Get down to brass tacks.

You should change your moniker.

You have NO understanding of the spirit of 76.

Why you have even been on a Ron Paul site is a mystery to me. Ron Paul promotes truth and rule of law.

You sir(?) seem to be plagued by issues and Dogma.

And you are so attached to the Dogma that you will never see the truth.

Look here.

How dare you besmirch Ron Paul even by the remote inference that he has one ounce of hatred for any people or any group. I assure you he does not. He harbors ZERO ill will for any group of people based on faith, DNA or any other collectivist trait.

So you can stop your disingenuous use of his name right now.

Now, don't start with me. You don't know what I believe in. You don't know what "dogma" I may or may not be aware of or believe. However, you reveal a lot about yourself - mainly that you are a collectivist - that it matters if a million die or not, but not if 1 dies or not - at the hands of NAZI bastards.

Can you read? Have you read the founding documents of this nation? That ALL MEN are created equal having been endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

You bicker about whether 6 million or 5 million died in the holocaust and give no thought to a single child who was murdered by NAZIs in the concentration camp only your "truth" as to whether the next one was or not.

You're despicable. The founding fathers would shun you. You dont know #$%^.

Thank you so much for the reply.

"Can you read? Have you read the founding documents of this nation?"

I'm despicable. I have read those documents.

Thank you for exposing your 'account'. LOL

Was that a threat?

What are you going to complain to the mods or something?

Or were you threatening something worse?

What are you going to complain to the mods or something?

Spirit of '76

Don't you find it odd. You have a moniker of Individual Freedom, expressed by the declaration of the Founding documents, I assume you mean the Declaration of Indipendence being one of them.

But your sorry ass is worried that I'm going to complain to the mods.

You Sir(?) are a pitiful human being. Get real, grow a garden and get to know your neighbors.

I hate pitiful people.