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Before and after the "Holocaust": Jewish population numbers in 1933 and 1948

Revisionist history teaches us a lot of things that are wrong, not that Hitler was an angel, but the more you read, the more you learn.

http://therebel.org/news/editorial/before-and-after/

In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their vast relief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germans but from the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases of relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.

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Nope

I've dealt with far worse, far more credible real-life threats from neo-nazis and others. I'm still here.

I was just trying to gauge how much of a coward you are. I'll find out soon enough, I imagine.

As explained in the commentary, it was a mistake

Books like almanacs are not always published with the most up-to-date information. Four years after the war, they were still using estimates constructed before the war.

The Almanac is not a good source. A Census would be far more convincing.

Truth Seeker

“If you would be a real seeker after Truth,

it is necessary that at least Once in your life you Doubt,

as far as possible, ALL things.”

- Rene Descartes

As I said, I'm not anti-semitic,

I like both Palestinians and Judaists. I just don't like lies or con-artists.

WTF is a Judaist?

Ya know?

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
Are you a POT or a PET - Person Embracing Tyranny?

lol

When I read his post.. dyslexia being what it is.. I read: I like Jihadists and Judas". lol

Are you trying to cleverly exclude Ashkenaz?

Are you going to answer?

Or are you afraid that's going to expose your real position and what you're trying to do here?

Did someone on DP call you an anti-semite?

I'm a zionist and I don't think you're an anti-semite. I think you have ideas that you want confirmation, which is not the same as seeking the truth where ever you shall find it, which may not be what you want to hear. I think it's an important discussion. I didn't support Israel until maybe 5 months ago and I'm much happier and I think the truth does that.. it gives you peace of mind and that can make you look crazy in todays' whirrled, but I see wonderful events on the horizon.

No, not you; it was Spirit of 76

who played the anti-semite card this time. But, as for conformation, I don't need it. I've known for years what the global jewish leaders are up to. Thanks anyway, but I'm really not confused. lol

Yeah

you got an inside with Jewish leaders?

No Granger,

can you say the same??

Yes

However I did sit at the table of Ben Shapiro's parents in law at the CA GOP Spring convention and they were Israelis. He was a rocket scientistand was proud of his family and their accomplishments more than his own. He was a vegan and so was his wife, who was really super beautiful and cultured and appeared to be popular as well dressed people were coming to the table to say "Hello".

At the time, I didn't know much about Israel, and felt the way many here do, so it was a little unsettling to me because of my ideas.. which was not matching what I was seeing, which was like the GOP.. not what I thought at all.. never thought I would be a republican. Never thoight I would be a zionist.. not ashamed that I am now both.

Nice try.

If I looked back through your post history, do you think this is the first post I'll find on this subject? Or do you post it fairly regularly and periodically in an attempt to achieve a desired effect which is not honest intellectual historical debate?

Please.

Full disclosure: I am indeed ANTI-anti-semite. I'm no Israel lover. I just recognize liars, moles and divisiveness when I see it.

You,sir, are an Israel lover, and that is fine.

The fact is that I do believe that Israel and Israel-First types have an inordinate amount of influence in the operation of our government and foreign policy. I also feel for any people who are caged and stagnant and dying because of policies of the Israeli government, which is supported by 60% of Israeli citizens, not to mention those whose land is still being stolen from them by Israelis who consider these same people as less than they. The fact that my posts might reflect this is not at all unusual. Eventually I hope that the people of this country wake up and stop fighting wars for Israel.

And I , too, recognize liars and deceivers when I see them, and denying truth, and deceiving others, no matter the subject matter, is in my opinion, nothing to use to promote yourself.

You're amazing.

You seem to have some insider info about the Jews that most Jews don't have.

Somehow you also know me better than I know myself:
http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/3274444

Do you work for the agency or something?

I always find it amusing how jew haters think of themselves as the greatest scholars of Judaica and Jewish and Israeli history, religion and DNA.

Somehow, you don't seem amused at all.

Your comment: 'Do you work for the agency or something?' I've seen trolls use that one before. Interesting.

And calling me a jew hater for posting truth is soooo telling about you.

So, let's see if I can give you the benefit of the doubt .....

... can you say how you know so much about Jews and Jewish history?

What books do you recommend? Where did you study? Did you happen to get a degree in Jewish studies (not that one is required)?

What piques your interest in Jews? Or the actual number of Jews killed in the holocaust?

Do tell! Specifically. Can you answer the questions above without strawmen, red herrings and dissimilation?

You were obviously taught well, Spirit of 66,

trying to change the subject from the subject matter to a critique of your(in your mind)opponent. Hasbara. Laughable.

You made a false assertion.

I responded. You objected. I gave you an opportunity to clarify which you did not take. You attacked a second time with ad hominem.

You are the one who changed the subject matter and attempt to project that on me. You are the trained rhetoricist and liar here.

Simply answer this question. Were the Ashkenaz burned in the ovens equal in their humanity and in the eyes of God to the Aryans who put them in the ovens?

Simply answer that question. It will reveal the truth here.

All souled beings are equal in the eyes of God,

He judges actions of each. I'm not saying jews should be killed, but only question the number.

So, what's the difference between 5 and 6 million?

What difference does it make? Can you state what difference it makes?

The difference between 5 and 6 million is 1 million.

But suppose it was the difference of 5 million and 1 million, then what would you say. Noone should ever be killed, period. I would simply prefer the truth.

Then what is the truth....

pray tell. Was it 6 million? 5 million? 4 million? 3 million?

Why are you playing games?

You, sir, seem to be playing games,

and this entrapment game will not work on me. Since you have very strong beliefs about this matter, you will attack anything I say.

Having said that, and noting your resistance to anything that is not 100% supportive of all things jewish, I think it best to let you decide that number for yourself, true or not.

My strong belief is reason....

....I fight against opponents of reason.

There is no entrapment game. You said you just wanted the truth. You obviously dispute that 6 million Jews were murdered by NAZIs.

What number do you NOT dispute? 1? 10? 100? 1000? 1 million? 5 million?

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Wow! Call it hatred. I

Wow! Call it hatred. I guess you can add me to that list of horrible "anti-semites".. Geez, all one has to do is ask a few questions about why this "6 million" number has shown up several times in history prior to WWII or about why the census numbers seem to have no indication of a missing 6 million Jews, or any question at all regarding the accuracy of the story - an you are an instant "anti-semite". Never mind that "semite" includes Arabs and others from that geographical area of the world so it does not exclusively apply to "Jews". Never mind anything to the contrary of the "established" story. If you question one iota out of the official story, you are obviously a very very bad person...

Oh I'm sure you are so offended.

It's one thing to debate the finer points of history with normal people.

It's quite another to refer to posts from White identity and Aryan nationalists as "fact" or "history" or even a debate.

These posts are coordinated. They are always from the same people. It's essentially the same post over and over which primary intent is to divide and to bring shame upon the Paul family in a public forum with a permanent history.

After being around the block with these people for more than 20 years, you think it's clever and original? You think it's fooling people?

And, yes, jew hating Aryan nation type people are IN FACT, practically by definition, anti-semitic.

Where? Here on DP?

How am I missing out on all this fun? Where do you go to get called names like that? Can you show me a link on DP where someone called you anti-semite?

I counted 4 anti-semitic threads today.

Do you guys wait till you know Mike N. is on a plane or something so you can test what you can get away with when he's not looking?

There was an anti-semite posting bomb today on the DP. Do you think you're being clever? Waiting until December 1 and then deluging the site with your thinly veiled hatred?