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Nelson Mandela Remembered

We'll miss you, Nelson. You were unique. Your message of freedom for all races will live on. RIP.

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How To Be A Good Communist by Nelson Mandela

Google it.

http://www.rhodesia.nl/goodcom.html

They are perhaps unaware of his fulsome praise of a communist dictatorship as late as 1991 when he and Winnie went to what they called their "second home" - Cuba - to celebrate the communist revolution with Fidel Castro. In his speech Mandela said:

"Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro... Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution."

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Thanks Zoo! I'll put it on

Thanks Zoo! I'll put it on "the list" :)

Yes, he was a

Yes, he was a Communist...something completely lost in the media adulation.

I am really surprised

at the attitude toward Nelson Mandela, as I was expecting an out pouring of "grief", and instead find that most people here are able to see past the Global rebranding of the man.
Nelson Manela was not jailed because he "was black", as the article states, but because he was the leader of a violent gang of thugs.
Two wrongs don't make it right, and South Africa is still a violent mess, for all coloured skins.

Mandela -The fist is the hammer

Mandela giving the Communist Party salute

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

he liked

soccer. not that it matters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffv4TcpfyAs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf39waktLVQ&oref=http%3A%2F%2...

Videos of the ANC’s “necklacing” torture/executions have documented the kind of grotesque “justice” that is meted out by the comrades and minions of Mandela, Mbeki, and Zuma. In this unutterably vicious method of terror/murder the victim is seized by a howling mob, beaten, stabbed, stoned, and then, while still alive, has a tire soaked in petrol placed around his/her neck and set ablaze. It can take agonizing minutes for the unfortunate victim to die.

The evidence that Nelson Mandela was a member of the South African Communist Party is so enormous that we will be able to detail only a tiny fraction of it. Dr. Henry R. Pike solidly established the record on this matter in 1985 with his 600-page monumental work, A History of Communism in South Africa, which is massively documented with many photographs and reproductions of official court records and SACP, ANC, and MK documents.

The full article is here: http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/15888-s...

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Thanks Dave

These comments are the one of the main reasons I visit the Paul. I'll give this a quick look-see.

So what is the controversy with Mandela?

I noticed all the Mandela posts are getting down voted. What's up with that?

omg. Is he a Communist? did

omg. Is he a Communist? did he murder people?

Socialism is a killer

Socialism is a killer

that or...

People are upset because we are remembering Nelson Mandela, but not the guy who drove the car.

Though

A democratic socialist, Nelson Mandela was "openly opposed to capitalism, private land-ownership and the power of big money". Influenced by Marxism, during the revolution Mandela advocated scientific socialism

His message of liberty for

His message of liberty for all is really what I like to focus on. I wonder if he did more harm than good? I think he did more good...

I bet you love Che also?

I bet you love Che also?

Mao is my guy...

I also love General Tso's Chicken.

Communist Mao of China? Why

Communist Mao of China? Why are you on this website?
Doing duty as a troll I see.

Sierra, remove head from ass.

I was being facetious. I bet you're a blast at parties.

you never know from one ill

you never know from one ill informed idiot who posts about how great Mandela was, I'm sure you would French kiss Mao's dead corpse also.
Keep drinkin the Kool-Aid kid.

Sylvan Learning Center

For the reading comprehension problems you seem to struggle with. Also, I saw you post that over at Ralph Hornsby's thread. "The Kool-Aid"...seriously. Grow Up.

No doubt

apartheid is disgusting, but the fact of the matter is,socialism is much worse since it imprisons not one segment of a population, but the entire population minus the ruling classes.

Socialism is horrible

Oh true, socialism is a terrible idea. One that has taken many lives and livelihoods and buried them deep. I'm just thinking Mandela specifically caused more good, for the simple fact that he led a revolution against an oppressive regime. Now, as far as his part in advancing the agenda of national socialism, he should be held liable.

Yeah.

Now, twenty years post-Apartheid, South Africa is a flourishing utopia.

Its all good

I'm gonna leave it up, downvotes or upvotes. His act of helping to bring about the end of Apartheid is what I'll remember him for.

Apartheid versus

Apartheid versus socialism/communism? There are no winners.

It's true. The subject is a

It's true. The subject is a complicated one. I miqgine that when most people think of Nelson Mandela, they don't immediately jump to "socialist" or "necklacing". Most people think of his sacrifice in helping stop Apartheid. That can't be a bad thing, however misinformed the populace is on the subject.

ask those people he necklaced

ask those people he necklaced if they agree with you.

No "good" men

There are no good men in war. I'm not apologizing for Nelson Mandela's actions or the actions of his affiliates either. My point: Apartheid ended. He helped. I condemn the actions but the deed is done. I respect that.

It's the same to be said for Lincoln.

Was the man a horrible president? Yes.

Could he have bought all the slaves, emancipating them in the process and saving hundreds of thousands of lives? Yes.

Did he help to end slavery in this country? Yes.

Once again, I respect the deed.

you are sorely incorrect.

you are sorely incorrect.

Ok

I'm willing to admit to being incorrect. I don't think I am though. Regardless of the actions taken, I firmly stand by my feelings in regards to the end of Apartheid. I'm glad its over.I'm respect that he bled for a cause, as I can respect any man that bleeds for a cause, even if the cause is wrong.