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BOMBSHELL! Obama Administration Lied About Syria Chemical Attacks.




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BOMBSHELL !!

the sun rose this morning !

It's a stretch to think Assad would use Chem weapons

Only after he is defeating the 'rebels' (I use the term loosely, since it is really CIA backed death squads of the same type used all over the globe the last 50 years)

Also, the Sarin had 'stabilizers' in it, since Sarin normally dissipates rapidly.

So this Sarin was produced specifically to leave LOTS of evidence.

False flag 100%. I don't see another logical explanation.

You might as well defect to Russia and back, declare you are a communist, sit in the 6th floor of a book depository, blast away with a rifle, go awol from work thereafter, blow away a cop, bust your way into a crowded theatre and pretend it was a well thought out plan and you figured you would get away with it. /S Well, at least until Jakob Rubenstein silenced you forever.

BOMBSHELL!

Bears really do shid in the woods on Sunday.

a bit exaggerated ...

Hersh's expose is largely about the US withholding or ignoring intelligence that showed Al-Nusra had the capability to produce sarin. It does say that a high-level intelligence officer said that Assad's regime wasn't responsible.

The problem with the government lying and distorting things is you can never understand what is true. Very frustrating but Hersh never said Al-Nusra was definitely responsible. Also it seems like an exaggeration to suggest the US is responsible. The only source I've found (CNN) says the US was training the rebels how to handle chemical weapons if they discovered them.

If the narrative this guy suggests is true, then why wouldn't these high level intelligence officers and other leakers disclose that truth? If it were true, wouldn't that make them even more mad?

http://www.lrb.co.uk/2013/12/08/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin

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well stated

and while I hardly ever listen to mainstream "news" anymore, one thing with a lot of the youtube guys is they are all trying to be over the top and exaggerating, so they can get views. This guy for instance yells all the time now, when he already yelled too much a couple of years back.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

The overriding question

Cui bono (who benefits?); clearly Assad knew there would be negative consequences had he used chemical weapons thereby inviting foreign nations to intervene in Syria. On the other hand Western-backed opposition needed a false flag to justify military intervention. Granger’s statement on the UN omits UN commission member Carla Del Ponte’s statement in May of 2013 reported by reuters that there were strong suspicions the rebels used sarin gas. No one to my knowledge has submitted incontrovertible proof that Assad ordered the use of chemical weapons other than hearsay and allegations gleaned from phone calls that may or may not be attributed directly to Assad. Where’s the proof?!

“The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte…
Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.
“This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities,” she added, speaking in Italian.

The UN has had evidence that Syrian rebels have been using chemical weapons Since May 2013
www.thetruthwins.com/archives/the-un-has-had-evidence-that-s...

Doubts grow about perpetrators behind chemical attack in Syria
www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/16419-doubts-grow-...

And you saw this?

Proves nothing

except to entangle Assad with family ties. As sinister as they appear, Al-Qaeda’s and Al Nusra’s violence against Syrians and Christians is no less damning. Prior to the civil war, Christians fled Iraq to Syria for safety only to see Christian villages destroyed and Christians murdered once Western-backed rebels began to take over. Al-Nusra has been increasing its influence and the fear that Assad could be toppled and the safety net destroyed has left Christians fearing for their lives. It is not Assad they fear, it’s the rebels. Without concrete proof submitted that Assad ordered the chemical attacks, Obama’s credibility is on the line, the same as it has been throughout his administration’s litany of lies about Solyndra, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Obamacare, NSA’s overreach etc. Anyone who chooses to believe anything Obama and/or his administration minions state as further perpetrated by corporate-owned media conveniently ignores his propensity to distort the truth. As far as I am concerned, the USA already has enough blood on its hands by aiding the rebels. Even more would likely ensue if Assad is toppled.

Syrian rebels massacre Christian village
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35141.htm

Jihadist bid to storm Syria’s Bloudan: You’re either with Nusra or with Maalula
www.naharnet.com/stories/en/97563

Matthew Fisher: It’s open season on Christians in Syria.
www.fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/09/22/open-season-on-c...

since you feel that way

What country are you for? Assad the kind of leader you are defending, there's NOTHING Liberty about him, let's just hope Obama doesn't open fire on sign wavers like Assad did.

As for as media.. most the information is from Turkey and Palestine which absorbed many of the Syrian refugees. I have never owned a TV.. don't listen to radio, not even liberty.. I enjoy non-fiction resources and usually go through non-profit organization religious and secular to see what they are doing to get my news.

I do not watch, ben swann, the judge, glenn beck, I have no interest and will never vote for or support anyone who had a job with MSM. The only time I see any the above names is when posted on DP.

As a DPer

I am surprised you would ask that. I am for the United States concerned as I am for its heart and soul and minding its own business by staying out of the affairs of sovereign nations, the main axiom of Ron Paul’s foreign policy stance. Nothing good has resulted from our military interventions in the ME where the situation keeps worsening since our direct involvement (including Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria). By backing the Syrian rebels (and supporting terrorism, something deemed as anathema by our own nation’s leaders), we have helped fuel a violent sectarian war between Sunnis and Shiites the result of which is detrimental to the stability and welfare of the civilian population. More than 6,000 Iraqis have been killed in the last year including 1,000 in September alone. This is the highest death toll in Iraq in five years. The Syrian civil war has reignited long-simmering tensions between Sunnis and Shiites, the contagion of which is now escalating Iraq into a full-on civil war. Instead of trying to contain it, we’re doing the opposite. Expecting a satisfactory resolution to a feud that goes back to the 7th century without considering the terrible consequences to the massively displaced and endangered populace to which tragic result our government is contributing is dangerously myopic and morally bankrupt.

Kudos to you for boycotting MSM although Ben Swann and the judge represent two of the most honest media journalists reporting the facts vs. propaganda. Without knowing the specific news sources you use, I personally would view news from Turkey and Pakistan with the same skepticism I have about our own media’s biased interests.

Not surprised...

Saw an article about this on HuffPo and this one from Yahoo. So it is getting out there.

http://news.yahoo.com/seymour-hersh-alleges-obama-administra...

Keep spreading the message. Wish there was a better video without all the yelling.

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I agree with you

The yelling in your face part is a total sideshow and a major turnoff.

There are so many layers to this in the scheme of divide and conquer people need to be aware of such methods as "controlled opposition".

Not saying that this is that...however...the yelling is just bad BAD business...and this guy should know that...regardless of the content.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Not Surprised! The U.S. Planned Syrian Catastrophe Since 2007

Spend a little time on these three articles, very revealing and informative:

Timeline of Military-Intelligence Operation: U.S. Had Planned Syrian Civilian Catastrophe Since 2007
http://www.dailypaul.com/298077/timeline-of-military-intelli...

Death Squads in Iraq and Syria-The History of America’s Death Squads
http://www.dailypaul.com/297015/terrorism-with-a-human-face-...

Protests in Syria planned, funded, directed by the US State Dept
http://www.dailypaul.com/299267/the-genesis-of-syria-s-conflict

Say what..

(((Granger))) why do you continually do this; make unsubstanciated and inflamitory statements that not only fly in the face of public opinion, but factual accounts and available evidence.
Should you wish to post up such opinions, can you support them with links to 'creditable' sources that support those outrageous statements. The UN investigation was indeterminate.

My intention is not to discredit you, or accuse you of disinformation disemination, or even simple attention getting, but give a thought to
those people that visit this site as guests, seeking informed opinion that may not know you like others here do.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

OK

Where did the public get it's opinion? Because I began to study Israel, I was coming across Syria frequently, so I had been watching Syria for a few months before the chemical weapons. I posted this back in September http://www.dailypaul.com/298153/the-syrian-civil-war-explained

Opinion, let me see..

Opinion can be derived from a limited source, as you seem to do a lot, or from all available sources, with an intelligent process of formulating one's personal opinion based on such details as considered to be factual, creditable and informed, with greater emphasis on indisputable evidence and first hand knowledge.
Such opinion, in the absence of corroberating evidence remains dynamic and subject to change and further modification as additional sources of evidenc emerge.

This is called being 'open minded' ((Granger)) as opposed to being entrenched in a singular point of view, and adopting a dogmatic stance.
The process also excludes the subject from being unduly influenced by misinformation, disinformation and propaganda purely intended to influence the subjects thought process, and eliminates viewpoints based on false premises. The process can be balanced by seeking and analyzing opposing views.

Also known known as dynamic research, educating oneself and seeking the truth. Give it a shot ((Granger)) and the process may enlighten you.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

What opinion?

I offered no opinion. I offered an article that I explained that I agreed with. You didn't even mention one of the nine issues. Do you agree? Do you disagree with THE FACTS? It's not an opinion article and I have not provided with an opinion (because if you can't handle FACTS, there's no way you could handle my opinion.. you have to be OPEN minded, which you may not given your limited research, if you didn't bother to read the article because you thought I was offering you my opinion).

It's him!


http://youtu.be/Alf19unbtVs

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The link for the original article:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/2013/12/08/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin

I'm not sure if I would classify this as "evidence" though. Deductive reasoning? Yes. Evidence? Not quite.

thankyou

thankyou for the read/link

Bump for Treason!

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kind people rock

No

What Obama lied about was goiung to Syria.. he never had any intention of going to Syria.. UN already found Assad responsible.. Assad is an asshole.

Perhaps he is an A-hole. That doesn't affect facts

The UN also found that Pol Pot was not committing genocide, that humans cause "global warming", and that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, just to name a few. If the UN claims to know something - the opposite is probably true. That is because the Western intelligence agencies along with Israel lie - consistently. And that isn't even debatable.

I wish it were true Obama did not actually intend on getting involved in Syria - but, without Congress or telling us, he DID get involved by bombing, giving weapons and intelligence to Al-CIA-da (who then went on to torture and murder Christians), and knowing that Israel gave the chemical weapons to Al-CIA-da to use and saying nothing.

I can't believe someone on the Daily Paul actually condones the USA intervene and kill innocent men, women and children in a country that didn't attack us, never even threatened us, to overthrow a government that isn't our own, all in support of Muslim extremists that we could never trust. You are sick, immoral, and a fascist no different than Obama and McCain. You really need to go to the Daily Santorum and get in a philosophical circle-jerk about Jesus coming back.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

No he didn't

What I find hard to believe, is in the past two or so years on Daily paul, propeganda of freamongering, hate and paranoia by those who claim they seek the truth. I'm seeing half truths that are forced with words of hate and vile, as if that makes it true. It doesn't. It makes the messager vile. Do what you want.

Know this: If the Liberty Movement protested Obama and after two weeks, many people joined the protest because Obama cut off the internet and cell phone, cut off electricty, shut down newspapers, people were disapearing.. and then one day, the protesters were met with the military gunning them down.. and the Christians ran to the Church and the Church said.. "Do what you want, but we will do what Assad wants because we intend to outlast Assad.. he will go oneday, but we will not run.. run if you must.. and they ran.. millions ran.. and some who stayed were murdered.. by who? Because is you look at youtubes you will see Assad sending tandk and jets and demoloshing Syria and the people.. and for who? Putin? A Global government?

All this blaming the USA is so progressive.. I am very different than Obama and McCain, but you seem to be so blinded by hate you can't see. Let's just hope Obama doesn't decide to become an Assad while you're waving signs, eh?

Umm......

Sorry. Didn't realize your situation and your condition. If I had known I wouldn't have responded.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

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