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"Constitutional Crisis Looms: Obama's Real Birth Certificate Surfaces"


http://youtu.be/ZrpSZi1TV1M

This video offers enough proof, if all parties in this video will, and do testify, or are given opportunity to swear, and, or, give affidavit, as they all will do, or have already done. Any court of law would and must determine that Barack Obama is indeed not a natural born citizen of the U S of America and is thereby disqualified to be the President. All parts of the law and legislation enacted while Barack was president will and must be made void. I believe that the courts will have to hear this case but will prolong the entire thing until he is out of office, unless Americans STAND UP and demand this to be done. They must do this either by full impeachment with congress, or by the courts of the United States. By the way here is the link to my video which shows the Birth Certificate from Hawaii is a fake.



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Do both of you actually believe we NEED awareness?

Or can something be done to just set changes in motion without overcoming the 4,000 new sheep in the system every day?

Did the masses awaken one day and say, "We want a social network where we can hang out virtually at no cost or travel?" or did Facebook/Myspace just appear and it happened?

Did the masses rally behind the cry that they wanted a global publicly open texting platform where anyone could follow the public texts of anyone else? No, Twitter just appeared and it happened organically.

Why can't we recognize the needs and make a tool so it 'just happens'?

Clearly name a problem and a tool will present itself.

It's neither or

Of course the public didn't demand these services but their creators weren't any less aware that their creations could bridge gaps in communication. So to say that FB or Twitter just "appeared" is not accurate. There is a lot of research and development that was conducted to even get to a point of "wow, that might be a cool idea."

What people then DO with these creations is where it takes on an organic evolution. I personally deleted my Facebook a few years ago. My life and needs changed and FB no longer fit into the "organics" of my life. I only use Twitter now but I use it as a News Aggregate rather than a means of communication with people in my life. If people ask me, "are you on Twitter?" I say, "no."

Being Aware and growing awareness is just taking in new information and discarding old outdated information. It's an ongoing process and not a goal that has an end. As people become increasingly more connected and new technologies continue to emerge to suit these communication needs, this awareness slowly becomes and organic element to our daily lives, the technologies become extensions of our human experiences.

It doesn't matter how many sheep are born every day because each one born is born into a world increasingly more aware and connected and they won't be as easily (if at all) indoctrinated into this narrow-minded, secretive system of induced unawareness. This "info war" is already won by those at the leading edge of information. Something like Twitter is our greatest weapon of Truth. Many people still don't realize that "the internet" basically stopped a conflict in Syria due to the rapid flow if information that destroyed propaganda before it even got off the ground.

We don't NEED Awareness, but we definitely DON'T NEED Ignorance either. Both will be there and it's up to each and every one of us to make that decision and have these conversations :)

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

You miss a couple points

On the attrition rate, have you been around younger kids lately? Of our 9 grand kids, some are near and get our influence while some are living in 'average' sheep-type homes. Those kids and their parents are not only snowed over but adamant and violently defensive of it. Every single show they frequent on television reinforces this mantra. It's insane. This is also the trend among our friends' families and their neighbors. I'm convinced we're losing more than we're gaining.

However, have hope because my other point wasn't that we shouldn't wake people up. It was that we shouldn't worry much about it either way. Twitter and FB did pop up organically (as far as the internet masses know) and since it was useful and fun, they jumped on board. If we want a different certain tool to become available, we just need to identify the needs it should satisfy and then model it so as to become fun, useful and basically addictive. IMHO, that's much much easier than gathering thousands behind a cause (which is the ultimate goal of awareness).

All I'm saying is that we should use the net as it works best. Foster those organic trends that promote real change and the change will happen on its own.

I completely agree.

I think we may have made more out of this topic than necessary because you are right, there are those becoming aware and there are those that enjoy the comfort of familiar unawareness. To some, ignorance really is bliss and who are we to judge them?

When I "awakened" a few years after 9/11 really sunk in, I remember all I wanted to do was grab and shake people to make them understand our problems and tried to motivate them to make changes in their lives—changes they had no desire to take on. And it hit me: No one shook me awake; no one shoved this awareness down my throat like I was attempting to. It was ALL me. Ultimately the decision to be aware was mine and mine alone. Along the way, I noticed others who were awake and aware and sharing their experiences and perspectives that I was inspired by to continue my OWN journey.

I now try to wake people by being an inspiration. Actually, no, I don't even put much thought or effort in it, I just AM it. My goal is not to awaken but rather to be as awake and aware as I can be for MYSELF. The more honest I am with myself, the more honesty comes through in all that I do and say to those around me. I've let go of the effort and just go with the flow wherever it may take me.

I feel as if though this is going a bit off topic of this thread but in order to even face these uncomfortable revelations, one must be grounded well within themselves to be able to communicate effectively and honestly as possible without fear, anger, frustration and even hate.

"What you resist, persists." —Carl Jung

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

perhaps

for some reason those who are in power decided that natural born and a paper doc mattered not .????

It seems to me that if you

It seems to me that if you leave the fact that this president lied and actively used deception to win the presidency, unfought, then thtat leaves the door open for any successor from anywhere to enter the ring and buy the presidency of the USA. This should not be something Americans should walk away from.

Agreed 100%! And I'm a Canadian!!!

Also a graphic designer who took apart the BC FILE myself. American's have an impostor as POTUS and so many just say "who cares?" If that's really how people feel then why keep fighting against these other aspects of the system? Who cares. This imposter has imposed illegal and VOID laws upon the American people... oh wait who cares. He's illegally droning humans... who cares. The IRS... who cares. Obamacare... who cares. Who cares. Who cares. Who cares.

All these things that people are fighting against could GO AWAY IN ONE SHOT. Support the Effort to expose this man as the FRAUD THAT HE IS and everything people are so occupied with fighting will be VOID! And as a "cherry on top" all those complicit in this HISTORIC FRAUD get to go to prison too!

WHO CARES!?

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

who and how

will this ruse be taken for real by any court that has authority that any person has indeed been harmed and that must be proven... ..impossible..

HA HA!

Its a lost cause. If this would have worked it would have happened long ago. The time for this stuff has now passed.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Give it up, this battle is lost and time has run out

Even if it's proven beyond a doubt tomorrow the damage is done.

It can only be lost if people stop fighting

The investigation is still very much ongoing and there is new information that has recently come to light that apparently takes this way beyond the BC itself. It has gotten so serious and so evidence-full that the investigation has basically gone dark.

Be patient. 2 years left to bring this all to the courts and the people.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Cold Case Posse proved released Certificate was a forgery!

This has been beat to death by the alternative media but no one is listening. The WH document is a fake. Anyone with apprentice level computer skill would have to agree, its time to investigate.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dY_m0i64ims

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An affidavit of someone saying they saw a document,

and showing a picture of that document, is not court worthy. A registered copy of that document from the source would be acceptable.
Regardless,the problem with all these court cases is standing. The only way to achieve solid standing is to be charged with violating a law Obama has signed, and plead the law unconstitutional due to Obama not being qualified to serve. The court would be forced to hear the evidence in such a case.
We do not know what is being hidden, but we know something is. I'm leaning towards Kenya being a ruse, and Frank M. D. his father.

Undo what Wilson did

the problems with these cases are many

the jurisprudence around standing is just one problem.

The quality of the evidence, and the fact that it is usually stacked on multiple levels of hearsay is another.

I suspect the reason that no one (in the general sense) takes this seriously is that there is no "competent evidence" that can actually get admitted in a court of law that supports this stuff. There is also an awful lot of speculation and wilfully ignoring alternative explanations that one has to engage in, to come to this conclusion.

I would think any skeptic even without a legal education would be unpersuaded. I also think that those who are persuaded are predisposed for a variety of emotional reasons, to dislike the President. I'm not a fan of his, but until someone can show with proper evidence that these things happened, instead of speculating, hearsay from low level clerks, etc., then to me it comes across as loons and racists looking for something to do with their time.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Thank you

for sharing your view that the only way to achieve standing is to be charged with violating a law Obama signed, then pleading that law unconstitutional due to Obama's ineligibility to be POTUS. It is my opinion that you are correct in your assertion.

This is very valuable information and again, I thank you.

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Welcome...not a slam dunk though.

A judge who doesn't want to go there can just dismiss. And I agree with others that evidence produced to date does not meet the threshold of proof. All we know for fact is the White House released birth document is a fraud.

Undo what Wilson did

Why do we need standing when they don't?

When the government charges us with any crime (short of espionage type stuff), they make the claim that we broke their law. Unfortunately, that doesn't give them standing because they haven't been harmed.

Why can't we charge him with a crime of breaking a law in the same manner? Seems a citizen's arrest would be in order. But if that doesn't stick (which I highly believe), can't we find that one entity who CAN make it stick and prod them into doing so?

When are people

going to learn the Kenyan Muslim thing is a misdirection hoax? He looks nothing like his alleged Kenyan father, but he does look a lot like his 'real' father, Frank Marshall Davis. The CIA may have used him to be the Kenyan's son for a cover, as his mother was clearly working for them. Why do you think Breitbart was 'heartatacked'? He had the info about his 'real daddy', the Communist, Davis. The radio-cons also, cut all scheduled interviews with Joel Gilbert, who wrote the well documented 'Dreams from My Real Father', which proves Davis is the father. The radio-cons felt the warning, a diverted back to the Muslim hoax. I can't understand how the sheeple keep falling, for the Ziocon BS, that Obama is simpithizing with the Muslims, when he is attacking more Muslim countries than Bush did. He is also, playing games with Netenyahu to keep the misdirection active. They have to keep the Christian Zionists on board by playing Obama is the enemy of Israel, to continue to ferment the left vs right game and then need to 'kill the Muslisms' before they destroy Israel or the Cabal's whole pogram of creating a Totalitarian World Order will crumble.

that kid is ugly. mongoloid

that kid is ugly. mongoloid head..

Is He a Natural Citizen?

If this is correct that he was born in Kenya and fathered by a Kenyan, he is definitely not a natural born citizen regardless of his mothers citizenship as the son takes his fathers roots. This is the way I understand natural born citizen. If both parents were citizens of the U.S. and he was born on foreign soil, a case could be made that he would be a natural born citizen, but this is not the case here, if all of this is actually true.

Well, its been around a

Well, its been around a couple years now. If something is going to happen, it better be not too far off from now...

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

No crisis. He's an American.

Mother is from Kansas.
His REAL father is (american)Frank Marshal Davis.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/05/16/new-film-suggests...

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-S.R. Hadden

correct. they don't bring

correct. they don't bring this unfortunate truth to light because the kenyan issue serves as a distraction to his communist roots.

Obama may be a natural born American

even if born overseas since his mother was a US citizen.

However... it's still a very significant issue though if he has misrepresented
this and the courts and media are complicit in covering it up.

A childhood acquaintance states that Obama (as a high school student)
always claimed to be a foreigner in this interview w/Dr. Manning:

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/11/mia-marie-pope-barry-soeto...

A natural born citizen is not...

A natural born citizen is not a naturalized citizen. Do some research so you will understand the difference. To be president he needs to be a natural born citizen, being a naturalized citizen does not qualify him. Maybe he is a natural born citizen but not as long as he claims Obama Sr as his father.

RickStone

I had experience that a US

I had experience that a child born of a US citizen mother, married at the time, is a natural born US citizen, regardless of the father's nationality, or where the birth took place. Specifically a child was born in Germany, of a German father and a US Citizen mother while they were married, and received a US Passport. Is this not natural? The kid came out of an American woman's womb!

Maybe this will help you understand...

Maybe this will help you understand

Naturalization Act of 1790

The Naturalization Act of 1790 stated that "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens". (Act to establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, 1st Congress, 2nd session, March 26, 1790, 1 Stat.L. 103 at 104, 2 Laws of the U.S., ed. Bioren & Duane (1815) 82 at 83.)

This is another small point why Obama is not a natural born citizen. A little bit of Google research and the facts will speak for themselves.

US Law very clearly stipulates: ".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai'i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after*.

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawai'i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

RickStone

What you do not understand.

is the meaning of the word. "Natural"

what you are talking about... is a "born citizen"

peace.

My friend's kid was born in Japan

he's American, mom is Japanese. He had no problem (other than usual bureaucratic BS)
getting his son a US passport - are you saying the kid will be ineligible to be president?

I have cousins born in Germany and Japan because my uncle was in the military
and stationed overseas. What about them, are they disqualified also?

Why are you attacking me?

"Natural born Citizen" ONLY applies to the supreme commander of our armed forces.
the word Natural means just that. what would it take for a person to just naturally have citizenship?
what IS citizenship anyhow? it is all based on artificial political boundaries.
the idea was to promote peace. if someone can claim citizenship anywhere else, for any reason, then it becomes possible that they MIGHT have divided loyalties.

if it is IMPOSSIBLE for a person to have any claim on citizenship any place else for any reason....

then they just "Naturally" have citizenship here.