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Daily Paul Under Attack

I'm noticing every video link on DP EVERYTIME I NOW COME ON HERE IS DEAD,
AND I ALSO JUST REALIZED YOU HAVE TO PAY TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT ,TO ME I THINK THAT WILL DESTROY THIS. GREAT SITE, PLEASE LEAVE SOME THOUGHTS AND BUMP UP SO WE CAN LEARN FROM THE COMMENTS, THANK YOU AND LOVE YOU ALL

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ALL CLAPS JUST SHOWS WHO YOU ARE

Its a private site make you own and then dictate your own rules. Its the home of Michael N.

If you act with the golden rule attitude usually people do not kick you out. If they ask you to pay to enter you have the option of leaving and not coming back.

You do not have the option of telling the other guy how to run his site.

Down vote you.

sovereign

How does someone sign up???

Michael,

I guess I understand your reasoning for having paid memberships. But I can't even find a link to the page to sign up anywhere! I can't find any information about it. I have no idea how much you are charging. Can you help?

-Ray

Sincerely,
Ray Powell
Founder, Hacking For Change
Head Geek, Startbutton.com

ALL CAPS

Makes you look like someone who hasn't mastered the Shift key yet.

It's really the mixing of styles I find clumsy. Sub par.

See if the poster came in like

I AM SHAKING WITH ANGER THIS CANNOT STAND THESE TRAITORS MUST PAY

that would be totally authentic classic USA conservative style of the Foxnews tradition. It's kinda quaint these days but still it enjoys a certain poetic license. But no, the OP led in with lowercase and totally violated that style.

The "progressive traditionalist" style has NOW MORPHED into more of a nuanced affair where one might just even throw in something that stands out....

and

PUNCHES THROUGH THE CLUTTER.

But this is to be used sparingly or the effect is lost. And sometimes it doesn't matter what you say.

.uoy od lliw ti doog eht lla rof sdrawkcab ti yas tsuj llew sa thgim uoy semitemoS

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

SteveMT's picture

We are being attacked by radical free-market economists.

They believe that you should get no less than 100% of what you pay for and that there is no such thing as a "free lunch." This is radical thinking these days!

I somehow make the sacrifice

I somehow make the sacrifice to give up one Starbucks double-mochiato-with-white-chocolate-srpinkles-and-foam-in-a-seperate-cup coffee milkshake thing a month to learn about and promote liberty at the Daily Paul. I kind of think of it as my personal, ongoing Valley Forge...

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

If you don't have

your Starbucks double-mochiato-with-white-chocolate-srpinkles-and-foam-in-a-seperate-cup coffee milkshake, are you really free?

Good point.

In fact, the terrorists hate me because of my double-mochiato-with-white-chocolate-srpinkles-and-foam-in-a-seperate-cup coffee milkshake and if we don't kill them first in the desert they will surely bomb us here at home...

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Starbucks???

What's that?
A new currency?

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

ronpublican

What's for supper tonight?
I hope you're a good cook.
Cuz I want to come and eat at your house every night.
If it's good enough, I'll stay over and have breakfast.
Wait...
What was that?
You want ME to PAY to eat at your place?
NO WAY!
What kind of person are you?
None of the others who came to your house that time had to pay.
But you want ME to pay.
Not Fair!

there was

a lot of back and forth when it was announced that The Ron Paul Channel would be charging 10 bucks a month. i thought 10 bucks was such a great deal. everybody's different. i do like that moniker: ronpublican.

Sometimes you have to pay to smell these flowers

and in return I think you'll find you have made some friends. This struggle to keep it free or pay up is a waste of energy. Daily Paul is the CARROT that keeps you in the know and in the now.It gives you that sense of smell for what is good and what is wrong with this world.
Here....Let me show you.


http://youtu.be/XjedugYxJag

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

If you want a free site-create one

Then you will learn the meaning of free

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YES PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY TO SIGN UP NOW

BECAUSE WHEN SOMETHING IS FREE THEY DON'T VALUE IT THEY DON'T EVEN READ THE POSTING GUIDELINES ABOUT NOT WRITING IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!

AND IF EVERYONE IS ALLOWED TO POST HERE FOR FREE THEN THERE IS AN INFINITE DEMAND FOR FREE SERVICES AND THEN ARE ALL KINDS OF CRAP POSTS THAT SHOW UP THAT ARE INCOHERENT AND I BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT AND IT ATTRACTS TOO MUCH BS.

ANYWAY IT HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR A LONG TIME NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY TO SIGN BECAUSE AFTER THE CAMPAIGN ENDED THE ONLY PEOPLE SIGNING UP HERE WERE SPAMMERS AND TROLLS BUT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE BEFORE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN AND DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING UNLESS THEY WANT TO SUPPORT ME AND THE SITE WHICH YOU CAN DO HERE IF YOU WANT

http://www.dailypaul.com/dp-subscribe

BUT IF SOMEONE GETS BANNED BECAUSE THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES AND THEY HAVE TO SIGN UP AGAIN YES THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY BUT THEY STILL MIGHT GET BANNED AGAIN ANYWAY.

I DON'T THINK THIS WILL DESTROY THE SITE I THINK IT WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM BEFORE BECAUSE EVERYTHING PASSES EVERYTHING CHANGES BUT IF IT DOES DESTROY THE SITE THEN SO BE IT BECAUSE NOTHING LASTS FOREVER AND WE ALL HAVE TO MOVE ON.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS THANK YOU, I CREATED THIS SITE AND I OWN IT AND I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS AND DECISIONS AND in the future, please don't type in all caps, because it is annoying.

THANKS!

How does someone sign up???

Michael,

I guess I understand your reasoning for having paid memberships. But I can't even find a link to the page to sign up anywhere! I can't find any information about it. I have no idea how much you are charging. Can you help?

-Ray

Sincerely,
Ray Powell
Founder, Hacking For Change
Head Geek, Startbutton.com

Mr. Nystrom I have to

Mr. Nystrom
I have to apologize for not following some of your rules. The last two days of posting has taken a toll on me and I may have forgot where I was for a moment. I lost my cool with a couple of other posters and used vulgar language towards them. I do sincerely apologize to you if this was disrespectful to you in any way. Thank you for providing such a neat place. I realize how much time and energy you put into it and don't blame you for wanting to charge for it. As much as I would love to become a member...I am in no position to pay monthly. Can you take one time donations?

Oh, Michael, THANK YOU!

I've been out in LaLa Land for over a year and didn't realize this was now a pay to join site. Thank you sooooo much for allowing me to stay by being grannied in. DP has been my source of information, comfort and relief, too, as I've made many good, supportive, cyber friends here because of you in the 1 year, 11 months, and 23 days I've been privileged to be a free member.

Will you be having another money bomb for those of us who do not pay? I remember the last one wherein you said you'd probably do that twice a year. If not, please give me a mailing address so I can send a humble donation once or twice a year. Sorry but, it's the best I can do right now.

Many, many thanks!

My Car

When I was in high school some of my classmates got their drivers license and their parents bought them their car. Many of them didn't EVER change the oil or wrecked them in a drunken stupor. Many of those cars ended up in the junk yard.

I had to work at a restaurant for a couple years to buy my own car. I taught myself how to change the oil and how to rotate the tires. I kept my hands at 10 and 2 and NEVER wrecked my car. I knew how much work it took to buy it.

I learned quick to appreciate the things I had to work hard to pay for.

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I call bs

People dont read unless they pay? " WHEN SOMETHING IS FREE THEY DON'T VALUE IT THEY DON'T EVEN READ" WHAT? Why not just be honest. You want a pay site you want the pay.

Does it have to be bad or dirty? But to say that I am going to charge so people will watch sounds like somthing the criminal government and its stooge puppets may say.

I am making you pay for your own good, paying will teach you to read.

OK yea right.

sovereign

Honestly, how many REAL users do you think sign up everyday?

This seems completely feasible and I had already tossed that reason around in my head before Michael flat out said it.

If anything, Michael is deterring people from signing up, in other words, he's still not making much of a profit. If even just 10 people subscribe per month, he'll probably make 10 times more off those than the member sign ups.

Michael and the unpaid moderators he's chosen don't have time to monitor the site all day, every day. Other than closing down the registration process entirely, I don't think he had another option.

Paying cuts down

on the number of people signing up who won't read or won't follow the terms of signing up. It might cut out a few people who would read them, but the site becomes unmaintainable if the majority of new members are trolls and spammers. If he wanted the big bucks, he would have switched it over to a pay site in May 2011.

Defend Liberty!

Ok why are you telling me this?

Again if you read what I posted. I simply stated that if he wants a pay site fine not my biz and I dont care. But what is my biz when somone pee's on my leg and trys to tell me its just warm rain water.

I do not think that making a site a pay site will make anyone read more or less.
This was stated at the reason to justify making this a pay site.

I do not care. There are many sites to read what I wish to read, the main reason I come to this site is to share my views not to read what others repost. Most of the items here I have read prior to comming to this site and are not original content. Making this a pay site or to put it another way If I were to choose to pay to be a member of this site (which I would never do) the fact that I paid a fee to be a member would not impact what I read. I read what interests me, if nothing here is of intrest to me I would read nothing.

I come here to post mostly not to read, most of it I already have read on other FREE sites before comming.

I do not care who makes bucks or big bucks or what biz stratigy a site owner uses. I do care about somone blowing smoke up my mind.

sovereign

I think micheals ready to

I think micheals ready to move on, which is fine.....i understand the reason the site was made, and its done pretty well surviving this long, without the person who gave us so much hope, facing the beast itself, although he is still out there.......i dont think the reason that brought us here will die, just a change of venue, i get the feeling we'll all end up gravitating to one site again, if that site was made for the same reasons the dailypaul was, some of us MIGHT end up recognizing each other from the original dp, who knows

It was, is, a great run micheal, appreaciate the "grandfather", should dp fall, ill see you all at the rendevous :)

You're the Boss!

I love the principle of property rights!

This website is Michael's property! We are all guests - BEHAVE! (oops, sorry!)

Freedom is the ability to do what you want to do.
Liberty is the ability to do what you ought to do.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17