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Sandy HOOK - Revisited

Below I link you with a most revolting piece of brainwashing-propaganda that was released in the upcoming "anniversary" of the "shooting" event that we are told occurred at "Sandy Hook Elementary" on December 14, 2012.

However, there is overwhelming evidence of a drill and a massive cover-up, laced by crisis actors.

I am not saying that there may not have been deaths at Sandy Hook that day. What I am saying is that there is no tangible evidence of such.

None.

ZERO.

And please....please spare me "its for the children." I would counter..."yeah...to be 'for the children' is to NOT use them in staged events...in the first place!"

To the uninitiated...who don't think something like this possible...I leave you with the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. You know, that pesky Vietnam event that did not (according to declassification later) HAPPEN!

But yet it was used to drag the USA into an un-winable war that would systematically extinguish 60,000 of its own young (children)!!!

A lie...and outright lie....used to kill 60,000 of a country's own young men.

Wow. What a dastardly scheme.

So...first the picture....and then after that here is this sappy forced and even psychotic "homage" to a fake death which never happened by a fake family that doesn't exist and whose child in shown on the google picture...Madeline on the right....whose legs are missing.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://www.metabunk.org...

So here was the "video": innocuously entitled: "Evil Did Not Win":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUR7BFTphmI

And here was my comment thereto:

"Lying fake crisis actor NWO gun control mouthpieces commenting on an event that NEVER HAPPENED. The most repugnant, disgusting face of all this is that they propagate it still. For shame. Traitors...just like the ones who glossed over the Gulf of Tonkin...and the ones who continue to cover up for the uber-war criminals of 9-11. Same architects here. Deranged illuminati psychopaths who treat this like a big Hunger Games. No more. YOUR days are numbered...we can promise you that."

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I know all of this is harsh and rude and in your face. But folks...sometimes....so is the truth.

The real gold standard is not how we deal with the friction...but how we deal with the truth.

You are being lied to...24 hours a day...seven days a week.

BREAK FREE OF THOSE LIES.

And "help the children" in a real way...not in a fake government-sponsored media-sanctioned way.

Help the children. Those children in Sandy Hook, CT...as well as those children terrorized by US-sponsored drones in Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, Sudan, Afghanistan...et cetera ad nauseum.

Indeed...help the children. Let's talk about that penultimate subject, next time...

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ecorob's picture

No proof Adam Lanza did anything.

Because "they" said it? HA

Show me the video.

Actors staged a drama at a drill. Too easy.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

if it's all "too easy:"

then show everyone else the video - or any proof at all - for "actors staged a drama at a drill."

We're waiting...

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

tell you what

I've had enough wacko for one day. I think I'll zone out while looking at Paulina Gretzky's picture for a few more minutes, then get back to work. Ahhhh.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

TROLL ALERT!!!

After rereading your last 10 posts, I declare you to be another troll camped out here to waste peoples time and energy on nonsense arguments and gibberish.

TROLL ALERT

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

It was a staged, patsy driven murder spree

The question and key objective here is, who had the motive to benefit?

Both Adam Lanza & James Holmes fathers were set to testify...

... in the LIBOR scandal... allegedly.

Lanza's father, Peter Lanza, was Vice President at GE Capital...

Holmes' father was a mathematician or computer whiz or something, and allegedly created a key algorithm for the program that cracked the LIBOR scandal wide open.

LIBOR, or London Inter-Bank Offered Rate, sets the short-term/overnight loan rates among the international banking community.

Allegedly, billions upon billions of dollars was essentially stolen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
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LIBOR is still being prosecuted, so why

So why didn't they target the parents? Aren't they the real witness?

ecorob's picture

They did.

Read above.

Neither of these fathers will ever know anything but lavish dreams...until they kill them (if they do).

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Good question. I don't know... Revenge, maybe?

A warning, or make an example to others?

Maybe they just 'killed two birds with one stone' so to speak?
By getting payback, while at the same time finding patsies for their false-flag psy-ops to take our guns...

It's one more uncanny coincidence and connection between the Batman movie shooting and Sandy Hook shooting...

It also points towards the same people who are behind the NWO... The International criminal Banking cartels... being behind Sandy Hook, and disarmament of the American people fits their NWO agenda.

Then the cryptic symbolism and the rest of the things in this conspiracy, and all the other conspiracies... It makes a lot of sense...

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Perhaps but...

Which bank benefited?

That is the real question.

Who came out the biggest winner?

Which bank? Crown (corp.) of London? I don't know...

At the highest levels they are a conglomerate, look at the federal reserve.
But, it's not just about Banks though, of course.

So for further clues, let's look at some of the rest of the evidence...

Do you know about the Satanic communities in CT? I spent nearly my whole life two towns away from Sandy Hook. I know that area so well it's not funny. I was telling my family about Satanic Communities in Northwest CT for years before Sandy Hook. Look up 'Dudley Town CT' sometime. I moved from CT to SC just a month or two before Sandy Hook shooting because I lost everything in hurricane SANDY.

Have you looked at the 'Batman' symbolism and coincidences consistent throughout the two shootings? This is very significant, do NOT over look this key information.

TPTB put it out there on purpose, I believe, to communicate with those who see it and understand it.
Just like they put the twin towers falling on the 20 dollar bill.
The hidden message this time is that these shooting are psy-ops, and the shooters are under MKUltra mind-control.
I believe the reason they MUST tell us what is happening, even if it's subliminal as they hide their messages in plain sight through symbolism, is because these are Occult Rituals being performed to achieve mass-mind-control. The evidence is consistent that the Elite delve into these kinds of occult rituals, and whether or not your or I believe in them, they do.
It could be as simple as telling the subconscious minds of the people the truth, while telling lies to their face, and if the accept the lie, they have essentially sold their soul, at least metaphorically, they have "accepted the apple", they have Chosen to be deceived.

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ok you're the king of dry humor

You really had me going man. I thought you were all serious about this stuff until I got o the sentence about the "batman symbolism" and how I am not to "overlook this key information." My hat is off to you, that is very good satire. I'll buy you a beer for pulling it off for so many posts without showing your cards til now.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

"monkey debunky"

sounds like you are picking a fight to me...
guess what? so am I!
I chose HVACTech.

why don't you fuck with me?

monkey

the only thing that happens to your monkey is abuse by your five fingered left hand in the form of regular spankings.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

The only joke here is the fact you keep coming back for more...

keep trying to bury the truth...

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
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you are a troll.

you just like to jack with people.

you are not smart enough to fuck with me.

the "truth" of WHAT, dipshit.

Uh, no...Forget what screen name you were signed in on?

Like it or not I'm onto the truth...
Clearly, you are the troll trying to shut me up, and this desperate attempt shows how deeply I've struck a nerve with your ilk.

What enlightening posts does HVACTech post, providing new insights and thoughtful information? None.

People like my posts dude, they are thought provoking, original, and intelligent. Can't you see all the upvotes? Go look at my profile, look at my threads. I am as Liberty as it gets!!!!!

You've been an idiot on here, period. The only posts I've heard from you, you tried defending Masonry from criticism, asked me if I've ever worked in an engine room with no context, and claimed I was really a sock-puppet of Bill3, which is a joke.

BTW, nice ad hominem attack, again with no context. You are definitely the troll, not me.

Oh, and HOW and WHY am I a troll? Hmm? I am as pro-liberty as it gets.

PEOPLE OPPOSING TYRANNY - Real Grass Roots!
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Busted! you are right. I am a troll.

please enlighten me to the truth.

oh, wise one, is "truth" subject to perspective?
only YOU would know!!!!

c'mon, give it to me!

Did you read my posts above? Of course you did Monkburn...

So you already know I am onto the truth... Of what happened at Sandy Hook, who is behind it, and why... as well as the NWO in the big picture... Not many REALLY have enough pieces to put together a clear enough picture to see what is happening, but I do, and I SHARE that info with everyone for FREE!!! And anyone can see that!!
Don't you Masons just HATE that shyte?! LOL!!!

"Truth? What is truth?" said Pilot. Because Satanists don't believe in a universal truth...

Yeshua said, "I am the way, the TRUTH, and the Light."

So you see, there IS OBJECTIVE Truth!

There is a TRUTH about what really happened in Sandy Hook, CT... practically my FREAKING BACKYARD BUDDY, NOT YOURS, NOT the NWO's!!!
And then there is the PROVEN lies and MULTIPLE, ever-changing 'official' stories... Until the one they came out with a year later, when all the sheeple forgot and moved on and the evidence was long gone...

Whatever HVACtech, you freaking vacuum cleaner repair man.... Whatever...

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Look's like mebbe, this is a "flame war"

is this your first r3volution?

"you freaking vacuum cleaner repair man"

that was actually a fairly creative jab. calm down, I would NEVER burn a Monk.

I am not sure if that is a compliment or not. my sockpuppet is Monkburn?

all about vacuum.

Yeah that fricken vacuum cleaner salesman

sure is a douchebag. You get get 'em jed!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

NSA and American tax dollars hard at work...

Thanks a ton... Enjoy your break.

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if you are a lawyer as you claim

you must not be a litigator, as you have no concept of proof

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Last I checked, a signed confession was pretty solid evidence...

...and there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that you're a troll.

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thanks, was able to afford new pie tin hubcaps

for the crown victoria that I drive

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Monkburn...Facts:

1. There is no physical/tangible proof that any child was killed

-Please provide 1 piece of physical/tangible proof

2. All parents of 'deceased' children were prohibited from
viewing their child, 'for their own good'.

-Please provide the name of one person who saw a deceased child

3. Adam Lanza had his brother's i.d. on him even though they hadn't
seen each other in more than 2 years.

-May seem irrelevant, but no explanation has been found

4. No video of the event has been acknowledged, even though the school had upgraded it's security, acknowledge in this partial recount of a letter sent to parents a year prior:

"Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry

-Where's the video?

5. No death certificates have been released, this information is public and has been withheld illegally

-Why not release the death certificates

6. 911 Calls have not been made public

-Why?

7. Adam was found with only hand guns inside the school

-Why is the official record that the killing was done with a rifle and/or shotgun

8. No children are pictured leaving the school

-Why not?

9. In all helicopter video of the event, there is a sense of calm, a sense of wandering around, there is no panic, no blood, no screaming or crying, no ambulances driving off with sirens, no bodies

-Why?

10. No tears. Not one person that was directly effected by this event is crying, not one, no tears on the day of the shooting, no tears after.

-Why?

There are so many more question, question with a lot more importance than these 10, these are just of the top of my head. Please answer any or all of these, and if you can't answer, then ask why and find out.

Enonesoch

you have n interesting definition of "no evidence"

Admit it - neither you nor any other shut in theorizing about this here has ever done ONE DAMN THING aside from watching youtube videos and reading consipracy sites in their so called "investigation" or "research". As such, you aren't investigating anything, you're relying on other persons ideas and theories, which in turn are based on hearsay, speculation, and often bad thinking. One thing you all have in common - is you can't think critically of any idea that is marketed to you as "alternative."

It makes libertarians look stupid and frankly, I wish you guys would all go big government on us so we can stop being associated with kooks and fools. Seriously.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Most of these aren't facts

they are questions, or observations with multiple explanations, or no explanation. All the hallmarks of a bogus conspiracy theory.

I'll address your assertions:

"1. There is no physical/tangible proof that any child was killed"

Bull. Photos, eyewitness accounts, contemporaneous reports, funerals, parents interviewed etc.

"2. All parents of 'deceased' children were prohibited from
viewing their child, 'for their own good'. "

What is your assertion based on? What about the funerals? There is another post in this thread that references a funeral with an open casket.

"3. Adam Lanza had his brother's i.d. on him even though they hadn't
seen each other in more than 2 years.

-May seem irrelevant, but no explanation has been found"

He probably wanted to not be id.ed and didn't give a crap what happened to his brother that he hadn't seen in 2 years because he is a psycho kid. Guy committing crime with fake id...wow..now there's a novel occurrence...roll eyes again...

"4.
. No video of the event has been acknowledged, even though the school had upgraded it's security, acknowledge in this partial recount of a letter sent to parents a year prior: "

Maybe the camera didn't work. Maybe there was no camera on the place where it happened. Maybe the system wasn't done yet. Lots of possible explanations, and you provide no facts to question any of the alternative explanations.

"5.
No death certificates have been released, this information is public and has been withheld illegally"

Released where? Surely they exist and are public record. What steps have you taken to get them? Are you just pissed that they didn't mail you a copy? That makes you a kook.

"6. 911 Calls have not been made public " Really? Wow. Got an explanation?\

"7. Adam was found with only hand guns inside the school

-Why is the official record that the killing was done with a rifle and/or shotgun"

What official record are you referring to? How do you know what was there? Aren't there multiple conflicting accounts of the number and kinds of guns used? Why should we assume that your preferred version is correct? I ask this as an avid second amendment supporter.

"8.
No children are pictured leaving the school

-Why not?"

Well, you probably don't have or haven't seen that picture. What's your point here? That they're all stiil there? Or that they all were shot? Or that they buried them on sight? What?

"9.In all helicopter video of the event, there is a sense of calm, a sense of wandering around, there is no panic, no blood, no screaming or crying, no ambulances driving off with sirens, no bodies

-Why?"

Well, maybe it was over and the shots all took place indoors. But what's your explanation? This isn't a fact so much as a question.

"10. 10. No tears. Not one person that was directly effected by this event is crying, not one, no tears on the day of the shooting, no tears after. "

So, it's your belief that no one ever cried after Sandy Hook? How would you know that? How would you prove that? That's ridiculous. If your point is that you personally didn't see a video of someone crying, so what? Again, are you for some reason pissed that someone didn't give you that? If so, that makes you a kook.

This video makes you a "wrong kook:" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn_nYrUmRkE

Since you think questions are facts, I have one for you: Wouldn't a scripted tragic event involving actors, have actors crying?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Not bad but

1. No photos proving any child was killed...prove me wrong
There is NOT ONE eyewitness account...prove me wrong
'Contemporaneous Reports', all of which contradict each other
Parents interviewed...have you watched the interviews?

2. Provide proof of an open casket funeral for one of the deceased
children and it will help to debunk a lot of this.

or

Provide proof that 1 of the parents were 'allowed' to see the
child before burial

3. I agree

4. I agree, although they sent home a letter to all parents in the
district saying that the school would be updated with video, they
may not have had it finish by that time, or the cameras may not
have worked that day, or he may have found an entrance without a
camera, many possibilities.

5. There have been many articles attesting to the difficulty of seeing the death certificates. As one such article states: The New York Post, the Connecticut Post, the Associated Press, the Hartford Courant, and other media have put forth requests for official death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, the Newton Bee report says. Newtown Town Clerk Debbie Aurelia says she is working with State Representatives Dan Carter, Mitch Bolinsky, and the leadership of the state association of town clerks to craft state legislation:
"that would provide the press and public with limited directory information from death and marriage records, but would withhold the actual death and marriage certificates."
Death certificates are part of vital public records, which also include birth and marriage certificates. They are public domain documents used, ultimately, to determine official recognition of presence or past presence in civil society. They also serve as a mechanism for upholding the integrity of information in which there is a public interest, as it relates to voting, citizenship, and receiving public benefits. Abuses of voting processes involving voters who, unbeknownst to the public, are actually dead, are legendary.
Death certificates typically contain little information about manner of death beyond categories such as "natural cause," "homicide," "accident," "suicide," or "other." News organizations utilize such records in crime reporting as a standard part of normal, often tedious, fact-checking procedures. Death certificates also contain the sworn statement of the medical examiner.

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/343981#ixzz2nPbr3aYn

6. I haven't kept up with the story so I didn't know that the 911 calls were recently release, as part of this article explains:

For almost a year, Connecticut State’s Attorney Stephen Sedensky and the Newtown Police Department refused to release recordings of seven 911 calls made on the morning of Dec. 14, 2012 – each from within Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

On Monday, however, Mr. Sedensky finally relented, announcing he would no longer seek to block their public airing. He had appealed a September ruling by the state’s Freedom of Information Commission, which unanimously held there were no legal justifications to keep these from the public. Last week, a state court upheld the commission’s ruling and ordered the release of these recordings – set for Wednesday at 2 pm.

Though 911 recordings are by law a matter of public record, in certain cases they may be withheld from the public. And for months, Sedensky tried to expand legal definitions to their breaking points, arguing the Sandy Hook 911 calls were exempt from freedom of information laws.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2013/1203/Sandy-Hook-91...

7. Yes there WERE multiple accounts initially, but the official report, meaning the conclusion that authorities have put forward publically is the 'version' I'm referring to. And how does being a 2nd amendment support have relevance to this subject?

8. Surely you've seen the video from the helicopter circling the school as the event is happening, right? You not trying to debunk a story you haven't research, are you? My point is if you research ALL other school shootings with video you will see what it actually looks like; frantic, people running, blood, victims, crying, shaking hands and all the rest...none of which is seen in the videos of this event.

9. Surely the video is after the event happened, as all the other school shooting video, but it wasn't long after, it was taken as the situation was still unfolding. Surely you have not researched this topic, have you?

10 Your response is a deflection, you think that because I am commenting on the unusual emotional response of relatives of the deceased that I in some way enjoy seeing others pain? Wondering why NOT ONE person during the event or interviewed after the event was able to shed a tear, does not mean I want them to cry, it means that I am confused about their response and thus move to question the event that should could such a response.

You should know well the theories you are debunking, otherwise we can get nowhere, you can't convince me, I can't convince you

Enonesoch

Photoshop

When my grandparents had their 50th anniversary party, my brother was at Army basic training, so we photoshopped him into the family portrait. And my cousin was wearing a tan suit while everyone else was wearing dark colors, so they photoshopped his suit to be navy blue.

I want to know who that guy in the woods was, and what drugs this kid was on, and I know there were bombs in the WTC buildings on 9/11, but not everything is diabolical.

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