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WHOA! Obama Allows Great Lakes Water To Be Sold To China As Half The U.S. Faces Extreme Water Crisis

WHOA!! Obama Allows Great Lakes Water To Be Sold To China As Half The U.S. Faces Extreme Water Crisis

By Michael Snyder, on December 16th, 2013

What in the world is Barack Obama thinking? At a time when the United States is facing the greatest water crisis that it has ever known, Obama is allowing water from the Great Lakes to be drained, bottled and shipped to China and other countries around the globe. Right now, the Great Lakes hold approximately 21 percent of the total supply of fresh water in the entire world. Considering the fact that global water supplies are becoming extremely tight, that is an invaluable resource. One recent UN report projected that two-thirds of the people in the world will be dealing with “water stress” and 1.8 billion people will be facing “absolute water scarcity” by the year 2025. So why are we allowing foreign corporations such as Nestle to make millions upon millions of dollars pumping water out of the Great Lakes and selling it overseas? Considering the massive worldwide water crisis that we know is coming in the years ahead, shouldn’t we be doing everything that we can to protect this precious natural resource?

Most Americans don’t realize this, but earlier this year water levels in Lake Huron and Lake Michigan were at their lowest levels ever recorded. The following is from a recent article by Suzanne Eovaldi…

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No problem.

I'm not really worried.

A million gallons of water could be replenished with around one 300,000th of an inch of rain over Lake Huron.

Drought in Arizona is not resolved with 0.001 extra inches of water in Lake Erie.

Author of Shades of Thomas Paine, a common sense blog with a Libertarian slant.


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bigmikedude's picture

Think positive.

Buy the land that the Edmund Fitzgerald sits on while it's cheap and charge for walk through tours in ten years.

jaseed's picture

Really Funny One

If this country & world weren't so seriously corrupt. can't even buy a Christmas card not made in China

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson


The water could be easily bottled on a massive scale. I bet there tons of empty containers sitting around for this.

The water levels have already dropped considerably in the last 30 years. This is not good. The stress from the urban areas around the lakes is increasing as well. Eg. Population and service industries. The great lakes are also shared with Canada so what is the deal there?

I do not think fresh water should be privatized for commercial resale. For residential and industrial use perhaps but for draining lakes, absolutely not. Are these people crazy?

How many millions live around the lakes?....not to mention other species?


It happened in Russia and even though it was a ...

smaller lake, it turned out to be a disaster that dried it up that left them with circumstances they didn't bargain for. Not exactly the same situation, but worth a look. This You Tube tell the story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNDjL_q7kHU.


That's not believable.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

SteveMT's picture

Have you guys ever watched Conspiracy Theory?

Great Lakes — Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura (Full Episode)

Here's what I don't get

How does someone (or some company) become the owner of something that is part of nature. What right does Nestlé have to say they "own that water". The same question is true about land ownership btw. I've never been able to wrap my head around this issue. I understand the concept of buying something from someone who already owns something. But how do they justify owning it in the first place? Sort of a philosophical question.

The CEO of Nestle is creepy.

He doesn't think water should be publicly accessible but should be owned privately (such as by a behomoth global private corporation like his own), sold to the public for whatever the market would bear - the same as, for instance, The Chanel "Diamond Forever" Classic Handbag that sells for $261,000, for those who can afford it! "For me?! I can't believe it! Really, you shouldn't have. A bottle of water. I love it. Thank you so much!"

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Your question is what private

Your question is what private property and natural law are all about. I would say Locke's definition of first appropriation of property by 'mixing in one's own labour' is a great explanation of how previously natural/un-owned properties gets to be owned in the first place and then later gets transferred in ownership by title deeds or even non-written local traditions/customs.

I perfectly agree that this definition of private property is most consistent with Liberty and infact form the basis of liberty and I think most libertarians and anarcho-capitalists also agree with it.

It might be most consistent but...

...I'm not sure I buy into it. Anything unowned if you "put your labor" into it becomes your property? Doesn't feel right to me. Is there a cut-off for how much labor is required for ownership? And what if its questionable that you're "improving" things? What if you're "exploiting"? Does this factor in?

You need not accept it

You need not accept it right-away, but keep thinking about it and you'll realize the simplicity and just-ness in that approach. In addition to this, this is THE way in which tribes and families also acquire or mark territory/property. So it is not a product of mental masturbation but an observed natural phenomenon in human society.

Do you have an alternative on how people should use/share land or natural resources without the concept of private property? If yes, it would be worthy to compare that with this first-appropriation theory.


Water issues are local, and the executive only carries out instructions from Congress, so I don't see what business it is of his one way or the other. On the whole, I like the idea of "allows" since that sounds like "freedom," but that assumes it doesn't violate the rights of the water-rights owners.

Does anybody think Obama should, what? Issue an executive order?

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Don't Worry,

Government selling water to corporations outside the state is the 'CONSERVATIVE' thing to do apparently because Proposition 6 here in Texas passed with over 2/3rds of the vote. Republicans and Democrats all pushed for it.

Southern Agrarian

"Republicans and Democrats all pushed for it."

Republican.... Democrat.... makes no difference, whatever is open, Just buy our boys (gal) into position so they can make our regulations & help us build monopolies and use up *all* the resources! (evil laugh) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

They aren't R or D, they are of the Me-Me party, masquerading as R or D.

jaseed's picture

So, what do we do as

The biggest problem is corporatist politicians in every state and locale. I met one at Avila Country Club, 943 Guisando De Avila, Tampa, FL August 26, 2012...a governor from a particular state i am familiar with!

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson

This has to be a joke.

Boat loads of fresh water are being sold to China?

Do you have any idea how big these lakes are? And how small even the largest boats are?

I live very close to Lake Michigan and I cannot fathom how one could possibly significantly sell enough water to disturb the water table and ship it over by boat.

Somebody is pulling somebody's leg.

Quite a few years ago the guy who invented the Pet Rock tried to come up with a sequel. His idea was to go to China and get dirt and to package it in one inch cubed containers. The idea was that if enough people each bought enough cubed inches of Chinese dirt - eventually the whole country would be gone and the Communist Chinese would fall into the sea where we wouldn't have to worry about them anymore.

It was ridiculous of course.

Just like selling our Great Lakes water to the Chinese is.

Red China Dirt

Gary Dahl creator of the Pet Rock was offering a cubic inch of Chinese dirt in 1978 for the purpose of buying the country out from under them.


Garan's picture

You've Got It! Water for Land.

We sell replenishable water; trading for soil, and eventually, we will have all of China within our borders.

Now if we can just figure out a way for China not to eventually own the United States, we would be in business...

except it's not a joke.

i live ON, not "near", lake erie... and honestly, you have to be a blind son of a bitch to not see how much the water levels have decreased.

nestle has been stealing the water for a long time now... a simple google search will reveal much to you.

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

Water tables go up and down on a regular basis.

My family had a cottage on Green Bay (the body of water) when I was a kid some 50 years ago. We had a long pier. I had to walk out well beyond the pier to the point where my mother complained that she could barely see me (I remember it well) to get into water that was over my head.

A few years later we lost a good part of our lawn because the water was so high we had to build break-waters.

This was back in the 1960's and 1970's. Nobody was selling water to China. The water table was simply lower at one point and higher later.

If you are a global-warming freak - then when the ice caps melt completely (which they won't really do anytime soon) water will be ten feet higher.

What a nut. Water table is lower because we are selling all the water to China. Wow.

After reading the article

I couldn't agree with you more. There are no details whatsoever. No companies involved, just a lot of speculation including the author pushing the notion of global climate change. Why would a company bottle water in the US to move to China, when a liter here goes for $2. Nonsensical.

Trying to drain Lake Michigan by the boatload of water would

be like trying to drain an Olympic size pool drop by drop with an eyedropper.

and that can't be done?

you act like that's impossible. yet.. it can be done.

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

Hi, thanks for the downvote

I'm not saying there isn't some kind of "conspiracy" to take water that rightfully belongs to someone else... (who exactly?) My point is that the article made no reference to an executive order, an act of congress, or anything tangible we could locate and decide for ourselves what was going on. Further, based on what the article said about selling fresh water to China, it seems a little ridiculous being that there is a strong market for bottled water that is 5,000 miles or so closer. Again, not saying it isn't happening, but based on the article, it seems far fetched. Maybe you can point me in the direction of what is really going on. Thanks.

Go do it and see how long it takes. Remember that just like

Lake Michigan continues to have water evaporate and is refed by underground springs - this Olympic pool will be maintained like it always is (refilled on a regular basis).

Its not just going to sit there as you empty it with your eyedropper.

You go do it and get back to me when you are successful.

I am guessing you have a problem with perceiving size.

And I live in Green Bay - the bay is a part of Lake Michigan.

More water evaporates and is naturally replaced each day - than you could take out with 1000 ships.


Thank you for putting this into perspective (and I live in Green Bay, too).

When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. - Patrick Henry

the great lakes have a lot of unique challenges--

water has become a multi-billion dollar industry, and it's all criminal, in my opinion. This is happening all over the world, especially here in America, as companies buy water rights to wells and springs, etc.--

but Obama is a foul fairy.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

What would the environmentalists think?

This is completely absurd on several points.

Ok, so we have some good clean water. To make use of this water, lets get a nice oil refinery to pollute an area. Then lets use that filthy industry to make us some nice shiny plastic bottles (plastic is a byproduct of oil for those not in the know). Then lets fill those plastic bottle with the water from a natural resource. Once filled and stored, lets now put those bottles on trucks and ships to continue to pollute while transporting a clean commodity half way across the globe to the largest polluter in the world. If that does not illustrate how back asswards we have it im not sure what would. I mean, we pollute and pollute and pollute. We strip the natural resources from the earth with big corporate pen swipes and finally get the dirt kicked i our faces when told someone else gets to profit off of our natural resources.

Its almost as ridiculous as the fishing laws which have an extremely similar MO in regards to absurdity. Commercial fishermen take tremendous swaths of life from the sea with their massive nets then pick out the good ones to keep because they can sell them, the rest (dolphins, sharks, un-edible and smaller fish, etc) die. Meanwhile back on shore, the guy trying to catch dinner with his fishing pole is being harassed and fined for trying to keep 1 fish that is 1/2 mm short of the "legal limit". I mean give me a fucking break. This country makes rules to favor corporations and screw the common man. The writing is on the walls for all to see. Please let the naive open their eyes. Free my ass. When you cant hunt/fish/gather on public land, then what the hell are we free to do? Buy a McFishwitch?

I want to cry.

Damn, man...

That was quite a rant! I think I'm gonna have to save this.