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Oh Mexico... Ka Poww!

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Obviously

Obviously Mexicans don't want to vote for their mafia government. You really want the STATE tracking everyone through a National ID?

No thank you. WHY would you want the same psychopaths who created the enticement for "illegal" immigrants to cross the imaginary line on a map to "solve" the problem.

Seriously?

voter id

Voter id issue in this country is simply a diversion. The real problem is corruption in high places and those darn computerized voting machines.... I call it faith based voting! no paper trail and they don't even post totals on the precinct doors!... In my county all the registered voters in a precinct is on a list. If I show up then they match my name to the list. I must show my voting card (state id now). Unlikely that I would stand in line for two hours to vote in another precinct where my name wasn't on the list. But even if I gathered all my relatives voting cards then guess how many places could I possible go before the polls close?.....No voter fraud is happening but its because someone has hacked those darn computerized voting machines,gerrymandered or other insider tricks in my opinion.

wtf?

It's not rocket science people. Provide a state ID or birth certificate or any thing proving birth within a state, and some thing proving address.

This in no way is racist.

"You only live free if your willing to die free."

Great idea! We know there is no corruption in Mexican politics!

...that does not involve 5 families and a citizenry used to greasing the palms of authorities to get anywhere with anything. Oh, I forgot to mention the drug cartels influence, with the payola, kidnapping and murder that they bring to the equation.

Yep...give me one of those cards to ensure that my freedom and liberty to vote in honest elections is guaranteed...that way, when the SHTF and the powers that be (Mexican NSA?) comes knocking to round up all of their slaves for slaughter, they will know exactly where to find me!

The best solution for us would be to STOP THE MONEY FLOW INTO THE HANDS OF POLITICIAN!!! Then everything should return to normal rather quickly.

"Liberty tastes sweetest to those who fight for it, and most bitter to those who work to deny it!"

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Our government officials neglect border security,

citizenship demands, and all the other factors that have caused the influx of people to migrate here illegally, and that means all law abiding citizens need to get National IDs?

Garan's picture

What a Misleading Conclusion/Question.

Even if one were to believe it all sums up to political party motivations, the suspicion should not be limited/target to just one party.

you want more government power?

you want more government power?

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

you cant get more than

total.

Kill the Electoral College!

You and I do not vote for President...the EC does. It's supposed to be based on "popular vote", but when was the last time any "representative" actually represented YOU?!?

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

It's not based on popular vote

because we live in a Republic not a Democracy. Learn the difference.

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I understand the difference...

My point is that the Electoral College chooses the President. And, like every other entity in government, they do not listen to the people...they don't follow the law. They appoint whoever they're told to appoint by TPTB. You and I don't actually get to vote for President!
If I'm wrong, don't lambaste me, explain it to me! We're all here to learn!!

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Voting solution

Let's give the league of women voters their duty of counting votes and move away from companies like Deibold and others who electronically allowed votes to be skewed and voters to be screwed. The answers to most of our troubles leads back to our corrupt politicians and government. If we take these things back from them, amazing things could happen.

meekandmild's picture

Count votes at the precinct

in full public view.

My opinion - This is stupid

Safeguards like this do not work when those running the show are corrupt. People in states last election had black gangs only letting Obama voters in.

We already know Obama has ordered doctors to receive political party information and voting information from patients. These ID cards are exactly what Obama and his corrupt goons want.

This will only give them an excuse to not let actual Americans vote,
or make it harder for them to vote as they become poorer and poorer.
This will not stop the corruption, and could lead to potentially dangerous waters in regards to political pressure from government officials.

To a certain extent I agree

Strong ID's won't stop rigged election results.
But it highlight's the stupidity of the fight against any kind of accountability for voters.
Used to be only property owners could vote.
Now we have invader's voting.

Only the property owners could vote?

I wonder what the reasoning behind that was? Could it be that just taxpayers could vote then?
During the first American revolution the out cry was "no taxation without representation", maybe now it should be "no representation without taxation".

IMHO people who don't pay taxes will most likely be willing to vote for benefits that the tax payers pay for.

ok, so what is your idea for how to stop corrupt voting?

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The way to stop corrupt voting is

to stop voting. What difference does it make if an ID is issued to a voter when there is no way to verify the vote that person cast is accurately recorded and counted? The onus should not be on the voter so much as it should be on the process of recording and counting. The dead vote and they don't show up at the polls with, or without, ID. Suburbanites vote absentee by mail. How are those votes screened and who verifies they are counted and whether the count is accurate?
Elections are corrupt. The only time they are not is when it the result does not matter.
The answer, then, presents itself: The way to stop corrupt voting is to make the election pointless.

[F]orce can only settle questions of power, not of right. - Clyde N. Wilson

Virtuous people

involving themselves in the voting process. Get elected to run the election.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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Get elected to run the

Get elected to run the election