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Sandy Hook Revisited - Revisited Again

Note: the purpose of this thread is to have a serious discussion and if necessary, to investigate certain theories about this event. It is not for wanton speculation and for name calling.

There recently was a controversial post entitled Sandy Hook Revisited, which yours truly posted in regularly. You see, I am a skeptic and when one comes off with Batman theories and isn't kiddding about it, it all seems a bit farfetched.

But I don't just show up and debunk. I do review things. In the last few days I have lost over 2 hours to Sandy Hook conspiracy theories, including the entirety of the Sofia Smallstorm video. I'll use that video for a reference point because she is obviously an intelligent person and presents some kind of coherent idea, without reference to Batman whatsoever (jokette).

Most of the things in Ms. Smallstorm's video struck me as easily explainable or unimpressive. But there is the concept there, that the whole thing could be manufactured. Some of the kids singing, if those were supposedly kids that were shot in the event, were definitely still there and singing in the end zone of the Superbowl. Some of the other kids only had a bit of resemblance.

And then there is the idea that many of the persons had recently moved there, and since then have moved away or been foreclosed upon. There was no evidence at all of this, just reference to a rumor. (But this is where I start debunking the debunker - it is a potentially huge issue, and yet the person who put together this artful hour and a half video with editing and sound clips and all, didn't see fit to go to the county recorder's office and check into this? I am curious - has anyone ever?)

And the idea that no one actually died there...has anyone into this theory actually gone there and talked to people? I'd like to know.

Part of me wants to say the govt could never orchestrate that - too many people to silence, etc. But then again, I am reminded of the other things it has done in plain site, and the fact that it was able to organize and catalyze for whole countries to change governments (cough: Iran cough) even decades ago...and then I realize that random isolated gun crimes never used to be national front page news but NOW if a doofus shoots up his outhouse in the middle of nowhere, I see it on my nightly news.

so what I'd like, and hope for, is dialogue on the issue that is fact based - not woo-woo stuff involving movies from that past - but if you have to post that, please at least take the effort to explain that evidence and its significance.

Let's see if there is actually anything to this, eh?

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wow, nothing?

no one wants to have a serious dialogue and follow up on the holes in this that remain? Really? And a downvote? With no comments? Really weak. I'm sure this isn't the kind of thing that reflects on everyone that posts here, but it sure doesn't say much for a large group of them.

I'll admit right off the bat - no pun intended ;} - that I don't think like a conspiracy theorist. Maybe I really don't belong here. I should think about that.

I find conspiracies interesting but from my training I want to see someone prove their point, not just pick some random fact out and hypotheisze that it means something really unlikely, and then exclude all the more probable answers. That isn't quality thinking in my opinion.

But if anyone wants to have a serious discuss, I'm all for it.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

LOL …. You're a TROLL! Here is my comment and down vote.

You have changed your name 4 times in the past few weeks, and offer no intelligent conversation as clearly shown by you history of posts and comments. You seem bent on wasting peoples time and demeaning the value of this wonderful site.

So again I declare, TROLL ALERT!

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

here's what you do about it!

First, you watch some Batman movies. If you catch something sitting on a table out of focus, that is your first sign. Then you go buy the digital version, watch it on a high resolution screen, and do a screen capture. That will be your first clue.

You then take this newfound evidence and open a case at the citizens common law fake court system of your local jurisdiction. If your local jurisdiction doesn't have such a thing, heck, just pick one off the internet. Don't worry about jurors, if you pay their fees, then the gnarly dude who runs the fake court will buy his friends all a half pound of weed and thus compensate them for their jury service, as well as guarantee you a "fair" trial of your peers.

You then put on your case, and obtain a thoroughly meaningless judgment. You can then petition this website that you have proven, in a fake court on the internet, that the Batman movie PROVES, UN-REFUTIATEDLY I add, that I am indeed a troll.

And if that doesn't work, you may wish to consider whether or not you're nuts.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein