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Something happened between the boobs and the gays and God and zioinists

I've noticed this cycle that's got almost as radical as bitcoin fluctuation. I'm not sure I got the chronology right. The antizionist/anti-Jew thing was happening. That was GETTING UP MY NOSE FOR SURE. But then it morphed into an anti Muslim thing which was absolutely no improvement to my tired eyes.

The boob post thing happened and that was followed by 3 boob related posts and the energy I felt there was "oh wow we can say boobs on the DP". It was rather immature but in my opinion a major improvement. But I did then become aware of a kind of spastic energy.

Then I noticed a spate of really profound or really humorous posts and the literary content value shot way up! It was a week of finding all these flowers popping up through cracks.

This week it's gays and there's this informal competition to see who can use the work gay the most times in the same sentence.

There's some kind of radical chance taking energy going on here and if you want to point fingers, well, let's face it: there's maybe 5 posters left as radical as I am. It's between elections, most of the folks who do the GOP/campaign oriented stuff are taking a break, the waves have pulled back to reveal the ambient level of odd-ducks doing what we always do: quacking for liberty (QFL).

But maybe it's time I say for the record that pretty much all my satire and lampooning is directed at me as much as you. I pick on hippies and I am one, I pick on bitcoin and I'm a bitcoin investor.

I pick on theists but if you took a knife and started cutting out the parts of the that believe in God all you would have left is a damp spot.

And as far as gay goes, well, had gay friends? Yes. Lost many of them? Yes. Somebody just showed me a memorial site the other day and I've been fighting resurgent grief every moment since because I had it packed away down deep but God. I miss them. I guess I don't believe in burying my dead. I carry them with me.

I guess the only class I pick on without any shadow of introspection is government. Never took no gub'ment paycheck no never not for nothin.

Anyways I DON'T HAVE YOUR SOLUTION THIS TIME. But I'm making you aware that there's some kind of a CYCLE going here, yes I feel there are outside influences but that's just a CATALYST not the CAUSALITY and we're getting bothered by stuff that used to be blow-offable.

And I'm kinda seeing how everybody has their REASONS. And what I prescribe is a bit of INTROSPECTION to where you might ask your self...

what is your reason?

What do you have at stake here? And is it really in so much peril?

Much 3VOL.

And I'm hoping this is the final clash of the very poorly tuned bandwagon 2013 turned out to be. I'm very much hoping 2014 turns out better for at least somebody in this world. I'm running out of hope again. 2013 was not nice to Smudgepots.

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I felt gay when I read your post

... now I feel like a boob for saying I felt gay.

lighthearted and carefree.
"Nan had a gay disposition and a very pretty face"

I vote for more posts about boobs and less by anti-zionists

but, as Phil Robertson says, that's just me.

We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

-C. S. Lewis

I must have been sleeping when the....

"spate of really profound or really humorous posts" came up. But I remember the others you refer to.

The darned alarm on this thing. I have it specifically set on "profound and humorous posts" to wake me up when they appear.

I had it unplugged for a while. Maybe the 9 volt battery in that little place underneath with the clear plastic door needs changing.

It is a vicious cycle my friend,

but the good thing about cycles is eventually you get back to where you are supposed to be. You have triggers that seem to cause problems on the DP, and life in general. The ones I notice here are faith in God, militant anti-theist, Muslims, and gays. Absolutely none of these have anything to do with the goals of the DP and what I believe is the overall goal of the participants here. If we aren't working to achieve 'liberty for all', even those who are different than us, then we are not truly working for liberty. We are then simply working for the same thing we have now, but with our pet issue or label being in control of the others. That isn't liberty.

My main problems with this sight can be summed up with one of Dr. Pauls basic lessons to liberty minded people. "Don't paint with a wide brush." To hear 'muslims are ...', or 'all Christians believe...', or 'gays want...', or 'atheist are..', is very telling of those writing the words. Like it or not, all Christians, gays, atheist, Muslims, aren't clones of one another.

I know "Christians" that couldn't or wouldn't live by Christ's teachings any more than some atheist do, they just like the sound of saying "Christian" maybe.

It's probably safe to say that 90 percent of atheist don't dislike me, or think I'm simply ignorant for believing in God. But there are those, especially on here, who can't pass up the opportunity to bash anyone who believes in God and isn't ashamed to speak of it. These anti theist are very confused. For some reason they believe that anytime you speak of your Faith, then you are somehow cramming your religion down their throats, as if we don't have that freedom of speech and thought.

I have known many Muslims and I have liked every single one that I have met. Sure we are different, and the 'leaders' of our religions preach against one another, but since when are we required to follow the man at the pulpit rather than Gods own word?

My belief is that most of our 'issues' are completely made up and driven by the media and various organizations. I know a lot of black people that get absolutely pissed at the race baiting that the NAACP, Oprah, Jackson, and Sharpton get into. I know a lot of good, hard working black folks who just want to live and enjoy life. They don't blame anyone for the issues that come up in life, and they certainly don't scream racism every time they don't get their way. Yet the media concentrates on what the NAACP and race baiters are saying, which sometimes causes people to judge blacks based on what we wrongly believe to be their 'voice'. We need to put that brush up. The NAACP speaks only for itself, and we know there is an agenda there.

What about Gays? Have you read the comments on the various stories about Mr. Robertson? I have read ONE comment that was negative towards him. Seems as though people read what he actually said, and realized that the headlines and the claims by glaad were completely and utterly false. There are many comments by gay people who understand the freedom to think and speak what you believe. They are disgusted with the way glaad has handled this and most things they get involved in. Who wants to support a group that wants to limit the speech, and ruin people, for simply not believing the way they want you to believe? I'd say that 95% of gays are just normal people who don't necessarily feel the need to advertise their sexuality.

We can't let GLAAD, and the very small minority of militant gays, form our opinion of gay people.

We can't let the NAACP, and the small faction of race baiters, shape our understanding of black Americans.

We can't let the media, and their constantly running 'minute of hate', teach us that all Muslims are bad.

We can't let the small yet loud, faction of anti theist shape our understanding of atheist in general. Most are good and respectful people who will fight along side you for your right to be whatever religion you wish.

Those that are atheist, and especially those who are anti theist, should understand that 'Christianity' is a huge tent. Yes there is a minority who will preach at you, claim to have all the answers, or even put you down for not espousing their beliefs. But that is the very small minority. Almost every time I read some nonsensical hateful rant about Christians it includes something to this affect..."The Christians I know" or "Christians believe" or "How can you be Christian if you believe" and even "I knew this Christian who...and therefore all Christians are bad".

There are two problems with this. Number one, as an atheist you have no idea how to read or understand the Bible, so please quit trying to teach us what the Bible teaches, you just sound silly. Number two, we don't all believe the same things, so don't try and tell me what I do or don't believe.

I personally believe in Loving God with all my heart, and I believe in loving my neighbor as I would myself. I also believe that Christ came to this earth and died for the sins of mankind. Anything other than that is completely extra. My salvation doesn't depend on whether or not I believe the earth is 5000 years old, or my belief or nonbelief in evolution, or anything else.

Basically we need to quit judging people by what we "THINK" they "MIGHT" believe, and instead judge them by their actions. We need to put away those wide brushes of ignorance, and accept that we are all individuals who wish to live our lives as we see fit. I will work and fight alongside ANYONE who wishes for liberty and freedom for all, no matter your race, color, creed, parish, religion, political party, favorite tractor, truck, car, or fork lift. I DO NOT CARE! Just respect others and quit judging people that you don't even know, based on a label they didn't put on themselves.

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I get caught up in these vicious cycles, too.

I dog out the Muslims on occasion but try to be very specific (I hope) in grouping them with illegals in the sense that they should receive NO special treatment.

I am ALWAYS against the Zionists (can't help it), its a Nazi thing with me. That's part of my fabric.

But Dr. Paul preaches Liberty for the individual and I have ALWAYS agreed with that. My Liberty extends all the way up until where your Liberty starts. I believe in that.

This includes gay people. I don't agree with the lifestyle but I accept it. The gay people I know are very dear friends. I believe it is true that only 3-5% of people are gay. I can only think of, maybe, 3 or 4 gay friends I have out of about 500 recognized on FB. That is a sort of informal, unscientific survey but it is a true representation in my life and something I can trust.

The bottom line is this; respect the individual and expect the individual to respect you.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I think it goes in cycles following a pattern:

1. Someone posts something controversial and it goes to the top because there are many different opinions here regarding social issues.

2. Other members who have made threads that have 'died' see that if they are controversial they will get put to the top as well.

3. Eventually someone gets sick of the controversial subject taking over the boards so they make a post complaining about it; often threatening to leave ie "I am leaving the Daily Paul because...."

4. Then someone else makes a snarky post in response to the post complaining about the controversy. By that time most everyone is exhausted from posting multi-paragraph arguments or have been warned/banned.

5. Finally Michael Nystrom has to make a post regarding the controversy and explain his actions regarding having to ban members which results in another argument over posting rules.

Then people cool off a little until the next controversial subject comes up and we start at #1 again.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Yeah that's a good summary of the tight loop

then there's broader loops and spirals. The semi-regular influx of stormfronters and david dukesters is kind of like it's own seasonal flux. In fact they are in their high gear now. They always get protective at Christmas time. Then there's the election time table which has been a constant fact of DP's existence.

There was the longer cycle of Dr. Paul retiring and realigning the core mission and purpose of DP.

There's something else coming....

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Very interesting. I have not

Very interesting. I have not been a posting member here long enough to see the more subtle cycles but have heard of the Stormfront thing from time to time. I was not sure if it was true or just people being labeled as such over the Israel political/religious debate.

Do you just look at people's posting frequency etc to find this out or is it more by content etc?

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.


I've had other handles in the past. Been a "libertarian" activist on and off since something like 86-88 so I measure movement time over decades. And I kinda see us in context of other movements before this one.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

I always enjoy your posts Smudge Pot.

Even if I don't always understand them. I'm with you about 2014 and I am very hopeful that it will turn out to be radically different to 2013, in a good way for most people I believe.

I have sound reasons for believing this and 2014 will be just the first of the three years of transition to the end of 2016 that will see off the last vestiges of the present banking/monetary system. We shall also likely see the fall of the Roman Catholic Church during this period since these two are joined at the hip. This may not be good news for everyone but the final outcome will certainly be welcome.

May God bless you and yours and give you peace.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)