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Phil Robertson's Free Speech Violated?

Phil Robertson has no RIGHT to be on A&E's network and thus they can fire him if they fear he'll use their network to promote views which they find morally repugnant. As long as the STATE does not intervene to get Robertson fired, then his liberty has not been violated.

If A&E cannot fire Phil Robertson for his views on homosexuality due to free speech concerns, does this mean he could advocate for the murder of all gay people (due to religious beliefs) and A&E still can't fire him? What about the murder of all Muslims? Murder of all Christians? Surely A&E can have SOME standards for who they support or broadcast?

I ask this seriously because it seems a lot of us on here still do not understand how liberty works. Thanks.



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Edit: Tis the season!

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It's not a quote of his, he

It's not a quote of his, he was quoting the New Testament. And the quote isn't referring to homosexuals. You're getting played. On top of that, you just go pwned.

You seem to be mistaken

Right before he said, "Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one another. And they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, god haters, they are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless, they invent ways of doing evil!"

And where in the New Testament does it say this?

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It's in Romans chapter one.

Paul is referring to the godless and wicked in general. Yes, he does refer to carnal acts as indecent, some of them homosexual, but he is not referring specifically or exclusively to homosexuals. He is referring to those not thankful to God, in general.

It seems to me that what plibertarian said is true about Phil

Listen from here and there is nothing taken out of context: http://youtu.be/Fk5VmM4pRhM?t=17m17s 17:17

He is, specifically, referring directly to homosexuals in his speech at this time and not the godless and wicked in general.

We're talking about Phil's own words here and how he interprets them, not the Bible's.

Get it straight, please.

Love thy enemy.

"Get it straight"? What, is that an ironic pun? :D

I directly answered a question regarding the New Testament. I've made no comments regarding Phil Robertson's intent, and I remain neutral as I am indifferent [and I'm not Phil]. The only personal opinion I've mustered through the whole mess thus far regarding Phil, is that he appears to be a good caring father to his children. I have no thoughts regarding the things he's said to the particular crowd to whom he was asked to speak, in the video you posted.

Perhaps what needs to be kept straight is the difference between me and BILL3.

We're different? When you

We're different? When you stick your neck out to defend me you sir are stuck with the consequences. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Yes, we are different.

It is especially evident when I stick MY neck out for another. That's when it's particularly evident to me anyway. ;D

As such, I remain particularly aware that any consequences I face are my own, as well.

We remain separate as we walk together. Only as such can we remain grateful that we are together... Merry Christmas back atcha...

I've read that it is debatable,

I've read that it is debatable, but from what you said maybe Paul is referring to carnal acts of homosexuality not God-fearing moral homosexuals. Either way, it's one interesting wild mix of words, hard to digest, impossible to know.

The point is, I don't believe gays are gay because they reject God. At most it's a flaw in their biology, therefore, it's God's fault in my opinion. But I am a skeptic.

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"it's God's fault"

This is true and He has taken responsibility for all sin by paying the total price of all sin through His death on the Cross on behalf of all humanity…NOT instead of but on behalf of. This has been validated by His Resurrection and Ascension into the realm of full sovereignty above all powers and principalities…again on OUR behalf. He commands us to follow Him into this new Life of the Ages.

This is why we can say that the debt for all sin, past present and future, has been cancelled. If we receive this truth and believe in Him then we can leave our life of sin and death behind and enter into His Kingdom and begin to grow into the new creature in the image of God that we are all designed to be.

In this world that is still at war with God this will mean misunderstanding, persecution and tribulation. He has given us, His disciples, the ministry of reconciliation to proclaim that Christ has paid the price of our redemption and offers peace with God to everyone. There are no conditions, simply the command to repent and believe the good news.

To repent does not mean feeling sorry for being a sinner, it means hearing the Truth, the Word of God, believing Him and surrendering to Him. Humanity is at war with Him although He is not at war with us. He has offered to make peace and has already done everything needed to effect that by taking full responsibility for the condition of the world and mankind. It is only by hearing and obeying His voice that we can be truly set free.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

"I don't believe gays are gay because..."

Cool!

Now we're sorta back to the OP's topic as I'm just as unoffended by your opinions as am Phil Robertson's.

I wonder if we've passed some kind of test. ;D